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The Lost World: Jurassic Park: Fallen Kingdom: Lost Kingdom: Fallen Park: etc...

I'm going to live bravely and just start a new thread. It's what the mods want! I guess I could start for every movie, but I'm not there yet.

I've rewatched the first three of these over the past couple of weeks. The first is the first movie I anticipated seeing in theaters. Still looks incredible and obviously makes one wish giant analogue robots were used for special effects. Confession: as a child I was really upset by Gennaro's death (I blamed Lex!) and as an adult I still think it's rude. I never like it when dinosaur carnage in this franchise is presented as some kind of morally just outcome, which is maybe why the second film is my favorite and that assistant's death in Jurassic World didn't bother me at all when I saw it.

I know velociraptors are the breakout stars but let me just say I am a T. rex guy; don't care about the raptors. Don't respect them. At the end of the day I think dinosaurs should be taller than people. (if you start talking about "modern, avian dinosaurs..." well... I guess that's your right. it's a free thread.) I do respect that cool as hell shot where code is reflected onto a raptor's face.

This film is gorgeously toyetic and I wanna shop at the in-universe JP gift-shop. I got a roaring t. rex hand-puppet from a museum as a child and I still treasure it. Battery is almost dead but she can still make a kind of charming-haunting squeak.

Feel represented by the rude child in Jurassic Park who correctly intuits that actual bird-lookin' velociraptors would not be impressive. (even if they were dangerous, who cares) Furthermore, that actor played the titular Dream Child in A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child. Like to think he's the same character and his mom's just a grad student on-site... they're just living their lives; untroubled by Freddy Krueger and not visiting dinosaur islands...

Lex spends the first hour and a half of this film - a whole Jurassic Park III - not being a hacker only to suddenly prefer to be called a hacker, actually, minutes before it comes up. The Lost World: Jurassic Park learns from this mistake and randomly makes Kelly (my second favorite Jurassic Child, partially for not getting anyone killed) a failed middle school gymnast more than an hour before it becomes relevant. Like I said, the second one is my favorite. Dinosaurs still look great. The trailers are very cool. This is a surprisingly vicious movie... I don't think a character as heroic as Eddie Brock Carr meets as terrible an end onscreen in this franchise. Child Camilla Belle is brutally mauled by compies at the beginning of the film, instilling within me a Camilla Belle awareness and respect that tempers my otherwise high esteem for Taylor Swift. (wrote an incredibly rude song about her) Re: compies... I'm a fan! Guess I lied about only liking tall dinosaurs...

In Jurassic Park (book and film) and The Lost World (Michael Crichton' book) Ian Malcolm is always saying silly, infuriating shit that the narrative vindicates. But actually that wasn't a problem here? He was not that annoying! Dr. Sarah Harding, though, is the absolute worst. Not really a complaint; she's a hilarious destructive force who's always getting into bullshit and (un)intentionally causing dinosaurs to murder other people. When she's like, "yeah, this baby t. rex blood on my shirt isn't drying in this climate; don't worry about it :)">>>>>>>>>>>>

Raptors are great here; they're just the penultimate miniboss and weird, malevolent monsters. That Kelly uses gymnastics to assassinate one? Impressive. Cool. Won't hear complaints. (well, by all means, I encourage you to post in this thread...) Bit weird Vince Vaughan disappears entirely once they go back to San Diego. Don't care; just noticed it this time. Last act is my preferred kind of Godzilla movie: Godzilla is just A Problem. Certainly not any human's friend! The t. rex probably eats that child after eating his dog... who can say?

For a long time I didn't like Jurassic Park III that much but it's grown on me the past few times I've watched it. I just hated Tea Leoni and William H. Macy so much? And I mean, I still do. Not to be too carceral, but I hope the next sequel somehow confirms they spent time in prison for fraudulently leading a half-dozen people to Dinosaur Island and getting most of them killed.

Am I bothered that the t. rex is just a "jobber" (don't know wrestling terms) for the spinosaurus? Not at all. Kill all t. rexes! They had their moment last movie! H8d the way they returned in Jurassic World. The spinosaurus is rad. She's a comic with great timing. Always just popping up out of nowhere going "lol"... Get her on tiktok. The best part of this movie.

Alessandro Nivola is extremely hot. I think he is dating Alan Grant in this movie. (the doctor is dating an awful lot of subordinates!) The only times they seem like just friends are when they are sensibly hiding their relationship from straight, fraudulent small-business owners from 2001 Oklahoma. That's just smart. Also really smart? Velociraptors I guess? :cautious: Real sophisticated this outing, aren't you impressed with their velociraptor society? These are questions this film raises. My answer(s): no.

Jurassic Park III is the only film with no new/sub-title and in fact numerals, but is also mostly clearly just Jurassic Park: Gaiden. The others all definitely establish some new status quo. (well, maybe not Fallen Kingdom, about which I remember little)

Haven't rewatched the last two since they came out in theaters and remember really disliking them. I don't think this is just reactionary on my part, I like plenty of reboots and remakes. I think I just sincerely found them despicable! Maybe I'd think they were fine now.

Thoughts and feelings about this franchise?
 

Kishi

Little Waves
(They/Them)
Staff member
Moderator
John Williams - Welcome to Jurassic Park

I was all about The Lost World at the time, mainly just because it swerves to make Jeff Goldblum, whom I fell in love with in the first film, the main character (for no apparent reason except that everyone else felt the same). In retrospect, it's a bit unfortunate they made him cut his hair and take off his glasses in order to be a leading man. The first one, Jurassic Park, seems to be evergreen every time I make my way back to it—just a classic film for all the reasons everyone knows. And those are the only ones I've seen!
 
One thing I love about these films is that every time I (re)visit them I get interested in paleontology and paleoart. Great blog, which I first started reading when Jurassic World came out. Got an extremely cool shirt (many co-workers said "cool shirt" when new) from the author's redbubble shop. Highly recommend this book, too.
 

Zef

Find Your Reason
(He/Him)
I love the first film, and I love both the novels, but my favorite thing to do with them is figure out all the ways they violate OSHA regulations. Even if it were a Baby Goat Park, the automated cars alone are death traps!

I love how Jurassic World decides to finish its climactic three-way Indominus vs Raptors vs T. Rex brawl by having an unrelated Mosasaurus pop in from off-screen, unceremoniously eat the Indominus, and then disapper. It's like the narratively unsatisfying possible conclusion they could have written.

I actually like the Deus ex Shamu Pool because it proves she could've just leapt out, crushed hundreds of attendees, and gobbled up a few dozen on ground level, any time she wanted.

Also we never saw the Indominus get eaten so my headcanon is that she escaped, swam to safety, and clawed her way to the top of a Honduran cartel just so she could get an army to get her revenge on Chris Pratt.
 
Why does the film judge her for being an unnatural sci-fi monster while making it clear the hero dinosaurs are also unnatural sci-fi monsters? Rude! (don’t think I’ve seen it since release; maybe I’m misremembering what happened)
 

Zef

Find Your Reason
(He/Him)
She's only an unnatural sci-fi monster because she's far more intelligent than the park creators give her credit for, she outsmarts their attempts to control, subdue, or destroy her, and she has the most advantageous evolutionary traits of any of InGen's other creations --which InGen themselves gave her. The raptors, which are just as unnatural, get grandfathered in by the other films' legacy, and Chris Pratt says they're cool.

Really, no dinosaur in any film is a villain or even an antagonist, only other humans are, and it's annoying that the films frame them as monstrous when they're just carnivores doing what carnivores do.

Wait, no, I just remembered Indominus was being sponsored by Comcast. I take it back she's a monster.
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
While I’m firmly on Team “There Never Were Any Sequels LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU”, I do appreciate that the central metaphor of World is about how hard it is to make a sequel to Jurassic Park.

And on a more Octo note, I also genuinely love that the monsters proper name is “Verizon Wireless Presents: The Indominous Rex”.
On the other hand the movie did not end with the t-Rex and raptor fist-bumping and what are you even doing making that scene otherwise!
 
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