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I wonder what a cockatrice tastes like? Let's Play NetHack!

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Old 02-14-2010, 09:56 PM
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Default I wonder what a cockatrice tastes like? Let's Play NetHack!

Ladies and gentlemen, I am relatively new to the world of roguelikes. This time last year, I had never played one, and my only exposure to them was by way of Netbrian's (just recently finished) LP.

Come today, I have played very far in Angband, and have run multiple Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup games to completion. I have a bit of experience under my belt, but I've only ever dabbled lightly in NetHack, which, to many people, is probably the roguelike. Fellow Tyrants, this ends now. I intend to win this game, and I'm taking you along for the ride. I will be posting here the life and times of every character I roll until I finally win.

First things first. We need to vote on tiles vs. ASCII. When I start playing, I'll check this thread and count how many votes there are for ASCII. The number of votes for tiles will be summarily ignored divided by two likewise counted, and I will play with the winner. I shall cast the first vote for ASCII.

For those not in the know: NetHack is a spinoff of an old role-playing game called Rogue, intended to be played in terminals (with your player's location represented by an @ sign, monsters as various letters, and so on). Since then, it has been traditional for every roguelike to have a mode that can be played in a terminal, with ASCII characters instead of graphics.

Second, I need race/role/gender/alignment/name suggestions. I was initially going to put this to a vote, but this has the problem of there being too many options to vote for, so I'll just be handling this Boojum-style (taking the first suggestion, running with it, and then the second, and so on).

Finally, I would like to direct your attention to page three of the Not Worth Its Own Thread thread, where I have posted a trial LP run of a different game. Please let me know if you have any suggestions for improvement; remember, it is your own reading experience you will be improving!

Well, that's it for now. Let me know your preferences, and I might get this started as soon as a few days from now.

May $DEITY have mercy upon my soul.



Would you like to play along? Download the game here for free! Just be warned that the controls are... complicated.




UPDATES (this list is terribly outdated, but I intend to fix it eventually):



Update 1

In Which Indiana Brickroad Explores the Dungeons of Doom *** Tools of the Trade *** The Perils of Autopickup *** Pets, BUC Testing With *** The Wonders of Searching, the Joys of Discovery *** Vandals of the Dungeon *** The Mysteries of Ambient Noise *** Identifying Identify *** Miscast Effects, Absence of *** Thievery *** Ill-Gotten Mithril *** Avoiding a Paralyzing Gaze *** Commounwealth Spelling


Update 2

In Which the Cursor Proves to be a Buggerance *** A Pointless Jewellery Heist *** Attack of the MADPONY *** Brickroad Dies *** Also a lot more asterisks so as to not spoil this fact with an overly-short description ********* **************** ************ **************** **************** ************ **************** **************** ************ ****************


Update 3

In Which Rai Gives Up Paleontology *** Religion, but the Wrong One *** A Shop is Wisely Skipped *** The Flaws of Leashes *** An Offering that Does Not Grant Four Blows in a Single Turn *** Crude Lockpicking *** A Difficult Orc *** Rothes are Faster Than Expected *** Rai Dies *********** *********** *********** *********** *********** *********** ***********


Update 4

In Which Twoflower is Lost *** A Lucky Discovery *** An Unlucky Discovery *** The Quest for the Front Desk *** Horrible Little People *** Noises are Marveled At *** A Fever For Which the Only Cure is Religion *** A Fun Trap *** Napping in Battle *** Lycanthropy, Part Two *** Twoflower Dies *********** *********** *********** *********** *********** *********** ***********


Update 5

In Which Boojum Gets a Relatively Lackluster Backstory *** A Comparision of Religious Systems *** A Stupid Name *** The Curse of the Black Flash *** A Holy Dagger *** HACKEM MUCHE Identified *** Enhancing Manliness, or at Least Weapon Skills *** A Delicious Boulder *** Feelings of Impending Doom *** A Store of Remarkable Size *** Mysterious Disappearance *** Meeting the Prophet *** Reunion


Update 6

In Which INTERCAL is Mentioned *** Name: From Stupid to Stupider *** An Absence of Documentation *** The Blind Doctor *** On the Gaining of Intrinsics *** Apportation *** Traps, Convenience of *** The Fertile Egg *** Insomnia *** Minetown, Sooner Than Expected *** Desperate Escape From Civilization *** Naga's Demise *** A Very Large Shop *** Menagerie *** Izchak the Noble *** Personal Foul, Holding


Update 7

In Which A Chickatrice is Run From *** Dust is an Experience *** LOLport *** Snoring Snakes *** The Majesty of Block Puzzles *** The Levitating Egg *** A Partly Documented Solution *** Dumb Animals and Their Money are Soon Parted *** Everything Except... Oh, Wait *** The Magic of Nightmares *** Hooray for Chickatrices


Update 8

In Which Mittens are Removed *** Rings Remain Mysterious *** Protection From the Religious Mob *** Boojum-Chika-Wow-Wow *** Denial of Thread Title *** Panic, Needless *** A Giant Meal *** LOLport, Part Two *** An Unfortunate Keystroke *** Death of the Pets *** Experiencing Some Terrible Food *** Needless Worry Over Shapeshifting *** Hot Air *** An Absurd Number of Levels *** Minor Cheating


Update 9

In Which a Sacrifice is Made to the Wrong God *** Shoplifting Books *** Transgender Trappings *** A Wonderfully Useless Gift *** Boojum Messes With Fountains *** An Expensive Lamp *** When You Wish Upon a Lamp *** Studying *** Why Do These People Put Money In Zoos, Anyway *** A Level of Remarkable Size *** A Plea For Help *** Fort Ludicrous


Update 10

In Which Rings are Disposed of *** Dragon to Cockatrice to Dragon *** Revenge on the Shopkeepers *** A Second Wish *** Boojum Fails to Consume a Wraith Corpse *** Dungeon, Retro Style *** An Awful Python Joke *** A Zoo is Actually Dangerous *** An Epic Quest is Begun *** Boojum, War Criminal *** The Quest is Not Actually Epic *** Chief of Staff *** The Friendliest Lich


Update 11

In Which a Dragon is Made *** On the Creation of Dragon Scale Mail *** Diminishing Returns on Protection *** A Light Nurse Tango *** Brickroad's Grave *** Anticlimactic Battle *** Labyrinth *** The Castle, Aaugh! *** Drawbridges, Dealing With *** So Much Summoning *** Belly of the Beast *** Stoning Monsters, Dude *** Extravaganza of Wishing


Update 12

In Which More Genocide is Found *** Delicious Sink Pudding *** Engaging in 'Washing Dishes' *** Farewell to Liches *** Soldiers are Wimps *** So is Croesus *** Like the Lottery, But Better *** Crowning Glory *** Ascension Kit RC1 *** Candidates for Wishing


Update 13

In Which Worthless Junk Becomes Useful Junk *** Writer's Block Doesn't Apply to Scrolls *** A Cursed Scroll of Genocide Proves Worthless *** Jumpy; Too Much Caffiene *** Don't Panic *** Ghosts of the Past *** Unspeakable Cruelty and Harm *** Assssmodeussss *** Swamp and Sickness *** Gluttony *** Boojum Dies


Update 14

In Which An Elf Discovers Pants *** Always Know Where Your Towel Is *** Shopkeepers are Jerks *** Alignment Talk *** Wererats are More Dangerous than Expected *** Pants Dies ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ********


Update 15

In Which an Otaku, Yojimbo, is Sad *** Delusions of Japan *** Pie! Pi! *** Shopkeeper, Enraged *** A Very Fortunate Escape *** Gunyoki or Sandwich? *** No Candy at the Potion Store *** On Price Identification *** Uses of Whistles in Combat *** The Mysteriously Unlocked Door *** Door, Trap *** Close Escape *** Pratfall *** Yojimbo Dies


Update 16

In Which Spikey is Sent Out by the Mob *** The Strengths of Archaeologists *** Protection Racket *** Pacifistic Mobster *** Closed; Come Back Later *** Loadstones and You *** Spikey Dies *** An Unfortunate Start *** The Well Hidden Vault *** Credit Fraud *** A Very Strong Cat *** Change of Plans *** Fire Ant Is to be Taken Literally *** Spikey Dies Again


Update 17

In Which Regina the Hedgehog Hijacks an Account *** The Tragic Romance *** Full Moon, Dangers Of *** Generosity is a Splint Mail *** Symbolism in the Tragic Death of a Pet *** Hedgehogs in the Dark *** The Unnameable Cat *** Mithril! *** Tragic Reunion Which is Also Tragic *** Water Demon *** dtsund Reasserts Control *** Dipping, Dangers of *** On the Lam *** Regina the Hedgehog Dies


Update 18

In Which Bat Man Selects a Bat *** The Behemoth *** Rings, Hungering Due To *** Early Magic Marker *** Fear the Vengeance of the RNG *** Dealing with Lycanthropes *** Magic Trap, Dead Pet *** Team a on the Oracle Level *** Forgetting What Is and Is Not Poisonous *** Pack of Gnomes *** The Sacred Names Ilbereth, Elbedeth *** The Goddamn Batman Dies


Update 19

In Which Comb Stranger Helps Us Reach a New Low *** Seriously, He Died In Just Over 300 Turns *** At Least It Was Funny, Sort Of ************** ************** ************** ************** ************** ************** ************** ************** **************

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Old 02-14-2010, 10:41 PM
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Split the difference and use Geoduck's tiles. Mostly looks like ASCII, but a lot easier to parse.
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:47 PM
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ASCII.

Lawful Dwarf Archeologist.
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:49 PM
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Split the difference and use Geoduck's tiles. Mostly looks like tiles, but a lot easier to parse.
They really do look more like tiles than ASCII, but I won't hold that against them too much.

Also, remember to suggest names. Or should I continue borrowing from Boojum and name them after Tyrants?
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:06 PM
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Or should I continue borrowing from Boojum and name them after Tyrants?
This. Also, ASCII. And a Neutral Human Archaeologist, if you will.
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:26 PM
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I'm partial to ASCII as well, but that's because I consider it the only True Way (tm) to play the game.
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:19 AM
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ASCII.

And of course, a Tourist named Twoflower, if you please.
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:19 AM
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ASCII.

And of course, a Tourist named Twoflower, if you please.
The only problem I have with that name for a Tourist is that I happen to know that Twoflower is the name of the NPC who assigns you the quest if you play as a Tourist. Otherwise I would run a Tourist just to have one with that name.

I'll do it anyway, if that's what you want.

Anyway, current tally is

ASCII:
dtsund
Brickroad
Rai
Matchstick
SpecBebop


Tiles (default):


Tiles (Geoduck):
Lucas
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:32 AM
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I'm so noobish I don't even know what races are in this game, much less jobs, hell I hardly know how the game works.
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Old 02-15-2010, 02:45 AM
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I'll vote for ASCII, with a lawful gnome healer.

Looking forward to the LP!
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Old 02-15-2010, 03:02 AM
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I'll go for the Geoduck tileset, because the other tilesets are ugly as sin but that one makes me laugh every time.
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:11 AM
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I'm looking forward to this LP; Stiv and Boojum's LPs have gotten me into Angband and DC:SS, and I'm currently dabbling in DoomRL, but I've always been too intimidated by Nethack's nuances to try it out.

Oh, and I vote for Geoduck's tiles.

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Old 02-15-2010, 08:40 AM
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Vote: ASCII

How many ascensions do you have under your belt, to take on this LP? I've got a few (Valk/Wiz/Ranger) and I'll be watching you.. o.O

Role Suggestion: (Chaotic) Elvish Wizard (but feel free to reroll scum a few times to get an interesting combination of starting items, they're hard to play the first few levels)

2nd Suggestion: Lawful Dwarven Valkyrie, and be sure to get Excalibur and Mojo ASAP, plus a dagger throwing machine till you get 25 strength!
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:55 AM
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Vote: Standard tileset.

Role suggestion: Lawful Human Samurai named Yojimbo. Slice and dice, man. Slice and dice.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:17 AM
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Vote: ASCII

How many ascensions do you have under your belt, to take on this LP? I've got a few (Valk/Wiz/Ranger) and I'll be watching you.. o.O
In NetHack? None. I've never even made it to Sokoban.

I figured that me being a novice to this game (but not roguelikes in general) would make for nice LP material.

What will happen in a perfect world is this: I'll die pretty quickly the first few times, you guys will be able to tell me how I'm Doing it Wrong and make suggestions for improvement, and I'll gradually be able to get further and further until I finally ascend, with all of my adventures and deaths chronicled here. This LP will also be highly interactive, as a result.

EDIT: And when you give me suggestions, keep my newbie status in mind. Don't just tell me to go make some holy water, tell me to make holy water by putting water on an aligned altar and #praying when it is safe to do so.

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Role Suggestion: (Chaotic) Elvish Wizard (but feel free to reroll scum a few times to get an interesting combination of starting items, they're hard to play the first few levels)

2nd Suggestion: Lawful Dwarven Valkyrie, and be sure to get Excalibur and Mojo ASAP, plus a dagger throwing machine till you get 25 strength!
In my previous dabbling attempts at the game, I've made it further as a Wizard than with any other class. Honestly, the early game of Elf Wizards in NetHack seems pretty tame compared to that of the Deep Elf Wizard in DCSS.

Anyway, current tally:

ASCII:
dtsund
Brickroad
Rai
Matchstick
SpecBebop
Boojum
dwolfe


Tiles (default):
PapillonReel


Tiles (Geoduck):
Lucas
Bongo Bill
Gerad

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Old 02-15-2010, 10:32 AM
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My first ever ascension was with a Lawful Human Archaeologist, so I'll vote for that. Also ASCII.
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:16 AM
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ASCII all the way, man. Also:

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Role suggestion: Lawful Human Samurai named Yojimbo. Slice and dice, man. Slice and dice.

This
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:41 AM
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Addendum: for those who have never played before, I feel like I should give you all a list of races and roles, so you can choose without having to look anything up.

Roles:

Archaeologist
Barbarian
Cave[wo]man
Healer
Knight
Monk
Priest[ess]
Rogue
Ranger
Samurai
Tourist
Valkyrie
Wizard


Races:

Human
Dwarf
Gnome
Orc
Elf



Alignment is Lawful/Neutral/Chaotic.

(Also, you guys sure do like your Archaeologists!)
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:16 PM
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Split the difference and use Geoduck's tiles. Mostly looks like ASCII, but a lot easier to parse.
Agreed. These strike the perfect balance between tiles and ascii.

If you want to ascend, I vote Valkyrie as it seems to be easiest class. I had all but ascended as one until my save game got corrupted. Man, that bummed me out so much I haven't played Nethack since. Had an ascension kit together and everything and was heading through Gehennom.
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:24 PM
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Vote: Geoduck
Name everyone after Tyrants, try to show off a variety of classes and races until you settle on the one you can most easily ascend, and try to do the more interesting parts on viddler if you have the equipment.
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:26 PM
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Actually that Geoduck set looks pretty swank. Use that one.
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:47 PM
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Geoduck. I'm curious what somebody who has played a lot of Angband and DCSS will think of Nethack's mid/endgame.
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Old 02-15-2010, 05:18 PM
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That bludgeoning things to death with the can opener for fun and profit is, well, fun?
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Old 02-15-2010, 05:45 PM
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I am remiss for not doing this sooner.

Regular tiles:




Geoduck tiles:




ASCII:




If we go with regular tiles, I'll either need bigger images or not show the entire floor at once.


Current tally:

ASCII:
dtsund
Rai
Matchstick
SpecBebop
Boojum
dwolfe
Spikey
PandaBreeder


Tiles (default):
PapillonReel


Tiles (Geoduck):
Lucas
Bongo Bill
Gerad
Red Hedgehog
CJ Awesome
Brickroad
Stiv

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Old 02-15-2010, 05:50 PM
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Gotta agree with the general consensus: the tiles named after strangely shaped clams (Geoduck) seem to be the best bet here.
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Old 02-15-2010, 05:52 PM
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Gotta agree with the general consensus: the tiles named after strangely shaped clams (Geoduck) seem to be the best bet here.
Now you've forced me to ask it: how many present actually know how to pronounce geoduck? Spoiler: it's not how it looks.
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Old 02-15-2010, 05:57 PM
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That's easy. You just pronounce the g, then the o, then the e, then the duck, just like it's spelled.
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:17 PM
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Mmmmm, gooey duck.

Looking forward to this LP!
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:20 PM
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You know, I think I'm just going to call it in favor of the Geoduck tileset. It's currently a tie, but I'll resolve that by changing my vote. In all honesty, it's kind of the way to go; novices will be able to recognize things like doors, easily, while experts will (probably) still be able to recognize the dangerous monsters.

EDIT: That was written before StriderDL had cast his vote.

Anyway, coming soon:



Keep the race/role suggestions coming! And once your character dies, submit more and I'll put you back in the queue. I'll probably be able to go through all of them.
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:45 PM
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Alright then, Caveman, Human, Lawful, name "Batman"



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