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Let's play Lords of Xulima

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Old 08-24-2015, 01:36 AM
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Going over your weight limit just speeds up the in-game clock rather than making you waste your real-world time. That's actually a really smart way to do a weight system!

Thanks for doing this Let's Play, Mogri. I'd sure never play this game myself, but you're hitting a great balance of rules discussion and humor here. I don't have a lot of time to keep up with LPs these days, but I enjoy catching up on this one each weekend.
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D'aww <3


PREVIOUSLY ON LET'S PLAY LORDS OF XULIMA: KILLED HERALD

AND NOW



Like they do after you beat Nengorth, the townsfolk throw goodies your way after you cleanse the temple. The merchant gives us three Remedy potions that will sit in our pack until the end of time, Terry or whoever he's claiming to be today gives us 500 coins, the trainer gives us another skill point, and the priestess gives us 1 HP and 1 PP.

She got the idea from Yul.

Oh, and the food vendor gives us food, but we never redeemed the food from beating Nengorth. The result:



She thanks us for both endeavours and fills our bag with enough food to last 3 days, twice. Now, after you've filled a bag with enough food to last 3 days, it already has enough food to last 3 days, so doing it a second time is less helpful. But this is the bed we've made ourselves.

Anyway, let's get down to business.



To defeat the Huns.

I'm sorry; that was instinctive. Blame Donny Osmond. What we actually killed was the ogre blocking the path to Sorrentia -- you know, the one that we don't use now that we've activated the wayportal.



But getting him out of the way is still convenient, because the glade to the left of the ogre is full of dead bodies. (Context: the dead bodies have treasure.)

While I'm over here, I experimentally take on one of the supershroom formations in Sporia Plains. We can beat them, but not as easily as I'd prefer. There's no rush, so we'll come back for them.



Is the hounds joke played out? Probably? Well, just in case...

AROO AROO AROO AROO

I think we've reached peak aroo. We'll start seeing bigger hounds instead of more hounds down the line.

I've been cursed! Everything's going dark...
That's awfully melodramatic for -10 evasion.



Our next order of business is the Valley of Whispering Rocks, which is the area in Sorrentia you have to cross to reach the map with the witch. There's nothing game-critical to do here, but the area is home to a puzzle that you should really do.

Also pictured: now that we regularly get three mushrooms/herbs per harvest, I've taken to grabbing them as I see them.



Also, another mausoleum key. We haven't seen the mausoleum, but you always find the key on the same map as the mausoleum, so we'll keep our eyes peeled. Anyway, the puzzle:



The statue asks you if you've heard the rocks, and if you say yes, it asks you to tell it the order in which the horse, lion, rat, snake, spider, and vulture died. There's a good chance you have no idea what the big chunk of stone is talking about, but remember that this is the Valley of Whispering Rocks. A good search of the area will turn up some stones you can talk to, sneakily hidden among a lot that you can't.



A good search will also probably clear the area, as an added bonus.

Here's my collection of talk-rocks, spoilerpopped because there are quite a few of them:






In summary:
The snake eats the spider.
The horse crushes the rat.
The horse smashes the lion's skull.
The horse runs off the edge of a cliff for no good reason.
The vulture sees the dead horse.


Now, there are a few problems with this puzzle, not least being that I'm pretty sure I missed one of the rocks. I'm about 75% sure that the missing rock says the rat kills the snake in some fashion. But even if we had that clue, there's no way to pin down a definitive ordering for the lion.

So there's some guesswork involved. But the puzzle is fun, and guessing isn't penalized, so I enjoyed this.



Where was it keeping that thing?
Pretty! I bet Kersket would like one of these.
Kersket created all the earth and its gems. It doesn't make sense that he would want this one.

This is another permanent-blessing item, like the Book of Life. We haven't seen the appropriate altar for this item, and it's still a ways off. Let's just remember that we have it.



North of the valley, we can travel to two maps. The northeast exit leads to a pit of hellfire and despair. We'll take this one instead.
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Cunavarn is a nice map for a variety of reasons. One of those is that thieves show up regularly here. This fixed formation has an honest-to-goodness Thief, one tier above the Robbers we've been fighting. He has more health and hits noticeably harder with shuriken. The real challenge of this fight is killing everyone before anyone can run.



The second reason to love Cunavarn is the town of Cunavarn. The merchant in Cunavarn sells better stock than we could buy in Velegarn. Conveniently yet mysteriously, the merchant in Velegarn chooses this exact moment to upgrade his own stock to match.



A new town means a bevy of new quests. These are, in order:
  • Kill witch
  • Find the thing
  • Find the person
  • Find the dead person
  • Collect the loot

We're likely to complete most of these incidentally while doing something else. It makes no difference whether we officially accept the quest, but we might as well.



Cunavarn's portal is to the west of the town. Not every map has a portal (the first witch's map is a good example of one that doesn't), but there are enough portals in enough locations to make them the preferred method of travel. Just in case, though, I bought a Cunavarn Travel Crystal. We still have one for Velegarn in our pockets, too.



The third reason to love Cunavarn is Odendro's Forest. The big tree with a face to our south? That's an Odendro.



Odendros have way too much health, they can breathe bugs on the entire party to damage and just barely stun, and they have a powerful melee attack that inflicts a long-duration stun. Odendros are great.



See, Odendros drop herbs, five to seven per head. Ten herbs equals a stat point. This makes Odendro's Forest a great area to clear out. It also makes this map a special kind of headache for minmaxers, since you would want to ensure that you got the most and the best herb drops from each battle. Optimal Lords of Xulima play sucks. You could extend this to all enemy drops, but very few enemy drops make any real difference. The herbs do.

Gaulen shines here, since the treefolk don't bleed and resist stunning but can be easily poisoned and less-easily wounded.



On the other hand, the wasps are back, and they brought a friend. We've moved to the second-tier wasp, which is more of the same but with a much more poisonous attack. They're pretty troublesome for our party, who like a target they can hit. Song of Stunning is still our go-to, but Big Wasp (not its actual name) likes to resist it.



AROO AROO AROO AROO again?

But we come out of this without any new curses, so I won't complain. Well, not too much.



Level 14 will allow Edward to learn Song of Dream. Edward won't learn Song of Dream.

The nice thing about sleep is that the status is indefinite. Once asleep, always asleep until you take damage. This suggests some potential for abusing Divine Prayer to top off everyone's health (and Rosa's PP), but that's A) more trouble than it's worth and B) less helpful than it sounds, since our nap schedule generally rotates around Rydia or Edward running out of PP.

Speaking of Divine Prayer, at the peak of its power, which is conveniently this very point in the game, it has the capacity to fully heal Rosa. It has too wide of a variance to do so dependably (36-60 HP, 9-15 PP), but still. The spell costs nothing. It's amazing.



One of the quests we picked up in town was to find this kid. Found! If you're using this LP as a walkthrough for Golot knows what reason, then check the minimap to figure out where he is. Or just wander the forest until you find him -- it's not hard.



Next in her line of "buff all the heralds" skills is Rydia's Heralds Power (again, no apostrophe). This is worth picking up at some point, since the heralds, and especially the Herald of Nalaet (the healing one), are running up against their PP limits. Since we will definitely want the skill that increases the summons' duration, this goes hand in hand.

One minor detail regarding summons that I haven't touched on yet is that you can refresh an active summon by recasting it. There's never yet been an occasion to do so, and the cost of the summons makes it hard to justify, but I could see refreshing the Herald of Nalaet if she had run out of PP halfway through a boss battle.

While I'm at it, I should add that you are limited to two concurrent summons. This is an even hair-splittinger detail, especially since A) you usually have party members occupying six of the eight slots and B) no way do you have three appropriately-leveled heralds anyway, but it comes up if you put your summoner in the arena, where you would often like to have more targets.



There's another riddle imp in Odendro's Forest. Since I love you all, I provided the answer this time.

This one was guarding some real junk. One of the items in the chest was a high-quality ring with no enchantment. The other was only nominally more useful, and they both went to the nearest vendor.



Late in the encounter rotation and in one fixed encounter, the game asks you to fight two Odendros at the same time. This is an endurance battle; you'll want to get topped off before these fights. If you are, then it's not too tough, even if the tree people have too much health to rush down. Fire helps.



If you're trying to optimize Odendro drops, this is where you need to to start making compromises if you value your sanity.

Hey, those Odendros were guarding...



Another of Golot's sacred artifacts is in there.

NEXT TIME ON LET'S PLAY LORDS OF XULIMA: TELPROT MAZE

OLOXPS COUNT: 12 (mushrooms, locks and traps, cereal plants, encounter clearing, herald of Golot, bard songs, Golot's blessing, mausoleum keys, the arena, minions before bosses, riddle imps, Odendro drops)

UNSOLVED MYSTERIES:
  • The Amberian Diamond will clog up our inventory until we find a god that wants it.
  • The arena in Sorrentia has ever more monsters to kill.
  • Cunavarn's quests still want us to kill witch, find the thing, find the dead person, and collect the loot.
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Old 08-27-2015, 01:01 PM
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PREVIOUSLY ON LET'S PLAY LORDS OF XULIMA: KILLED TREES

AND NOW



That's awfully considerate!

ONE FLOOR LATER



Thousands of years in the tower seems to have done a number on your sanity, pal. That didn't make a lick of sense.
It might be a hint, however odd it sounds. I'll write it down.

ONE FLOOR LATER



Chatty bunch, these skulls. I suppose they don't get out much.



Try "Rumplestiltskin."
Try "Ifnkovhgroghprm."
I don't even know how to pronounce that.



I guess we need to check the walls, then. We haven't seen anything so far, so let's do some exploring.



The Tower of Resilience is a giant teleporter maze. Everybody loves a good teleporter maze, right?

Well, even if they did, the Tower of Resilience is not a good teleporter maze. See, unlike its cousins in games like Pokémon, there is no endpoint to reach here. The teleporters are additionally all one-way, and many of them dump you at the base of the tower, meaning you must retread the first two floors of the tower to get back into the game. The walk doesn't force you into battles -- indeed, there are no encounters in the tower. It's just a slog. Quicksave/quickload is highly recommended here to preserve your sanity.

So if there's no finish line, what's the point of the maze?



Well, there are two bonus rooms to find, and they're well worth it. This one has five basins to drink, and the three green ones are skill points, which I always appreciate. The other one has some scrolls and quite a few books. Good stuff.

But the bonus rooms are just that. In order to complete the tower, you're expected to find every other room in the tower. The reason for that might be self-evident if you examine the minimap.



The rooms are shaped like letters!
"Neczah"?
No, that's not right. What did the second skull say..? "The light is the order: first those that shine less, and then those that shine more."

That's right, dear player! Screw you all over again. See, you have to order the letters by the number of candles in each one. The minimap shows the candles, but the teleporters also look like candles on the map. You could go through them all again and make a note of how many are in each, or...

Cenzah. Hancez. Nachez. Chenza. Zanche. Cheanz. Zhance.

EVENTUALLY



(I think the correct answer is Zanceh, but don't quote me on that.)

The gate opens, and our intrepid party is free to move to the top floor, where they find...



An EYE, again. At the top of a tower, again.
They're called "Tower Sentinels" for a reason, you know. This is their natural habitat!
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This incarnation of the not-a-Hasbro-owned-monster hits everyone with silence and sleep. The former really limits Edward's and Rydia's ability to contribute to this battle (should've learned Song of Speech!), and the latter is generally a waste of a turn: it has no single-target attacks, meaning it'll wake everyone up at the same time, and each party member has a low chance to resist the status.

Interestingly enough, only some of the Cleric/Paladin spells are affected by silence -- specifically, the ones that fall under the heart icon. Unaffected abilities include Divine Prayer (!) and Aura of Protection. So while Rosa was unable to heal anyone else, she could heal herself, and in theory, she could have soloed this fight despite her 36% hit rate and 2-3 damage.

We may spend most of the battle asleep, but getting in an early shuriken or two makes this battle a breeze. The 48 bleed on the Sentinel is an indication that I went a little overboard.



Sure enough, Rosa ends the battle in good shape, with everyone else on death's door. The entire party was sleeping when the Tower Sentinel died. Good job, team.



Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.

Wow is that a weapon. More on this in a second because wow.



Nice shoes. Wanna explain how you can make shoes out of ivory sheet?



Finally, here's our artifact. We haven't found anything that needs hammering yet. It sounds like it would make a rockin' weapon, but you can't equip it.



"Ornamental object" my rear. If it can smash through metal, it's good enough to kill a goblin.

Anyway, that axe.



Look at that axe. For comparison, we were using the four-star iron battle axe. The 11-star brastinium battle axe is... an improvement. In one swoop, we've doubled his offense. Due to the way the defense formula works, Gaulen will deal more than twice as many wounds as before, and he is by far our best attacker now, too.

Gaulen doesn't have the raw stats to hold it, so he gets the new boots to give him the boost he needs. Time for some fun.



DESTROY

(Actually, though, I needed Rydia to get through this fight, since our buddy here hits way too hard. But Gaulen did more than his share of arena clearing in this round.)



Killing the Tower Sentinel and picking up the artifact gave a huge boost to experience. We get a peek of Rosa's next must-have spell. This is the first upgrade to Light Heal, which is, you know, it's about time. I wonder when the Herald of Nalaet is going to catch up.

NEXT TIME ON LET'S PLAY LORDS OF XULIMA: YOU DECIDE

We have a lot of paths open to us now, and for once, I'm not way ahead of the LP. So let's get interactive. Choose an option!
  1. Northwest of Cunavarn, there's a snowfield where we'll find the resolution to several of our Cunavarn quests, but we'll be out of our depth.
  2. Who knows what's south of Nabros? (Me; I do.) It just miiiight have something to do with the artifact we just acquired, and we can cash in the Amberian Diamond in an adjacent region.
  3. The residents of Cunavarn mentioned a town to the east. There's a trio of ogres between it and us, which will be a tough battle.

There are more paths that we could travel, but we won't:
  • Northeast of Cunavarn, a barren tundra where we would meet a swift death by starvation
  • Northeast of Nabros, a hellish landscape where the ground is scorching hot
  • East of Nabros, a marsh with an obstacle that we can't yet bypass

Our options are not created equal: some are more challenging, some are more rewarding, and the two don't always go hand-in-hand. Vote!


OLOXPS COUNT: 12 (mushrooms, locks and traps, cereal plants, encounter clearing, herald of Golot, bard songs, Golot's blessing, mausoleum keys, the arena, minions before bosses, riddle imps, Odendro drops)

UNSOLVED MYSTERIES:
  • The Amberian Diamond will clog up our inventory until we find a god that wants it.
  • The arena in Sorrentia has ever more monsters to kill.
  • Cunavarn's quests still want us to kill witch, find the thing, find the dead person, and collect the loot.
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Old 08-27-2015, 03:12 PM
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I vote for 2.
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Old 08-27-2015, 05:21 PM
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2 does sound like the path of least resistance. Of course in this game that's probably all relative.
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It can also be dependent on your team composition. Right now, my threat assessment highly values evasion but devalues high HP and resistances (both elemental and status outside of perhaps bleed). If we had a mage, then I would be less afraid of bees but more reluctant to go to area #1.

We will, if memory serves, run into bees in parts of area #2, but it's still the lowest-level challenge currently available to us if I haven't forgotten anything. (I have definitely forgotten something, since I can't remember where the second prince is. Luckily, only Nengorth serves as an actual roadblock; the other three can be beaten in any order. In any case, I'm sure we'll find him sooner or later.)
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I vote for 2.
Ditto. I want to see what this artifact does.
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Luckily, only Nengorth serves as an actual roadblock; the other three can be beaten in any order. In any case, I'm sure we'll find him sooner or later.
SAVE KARY FOR LAST
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Come to think of it, I'm not entirely certain that you can't beat all of them in any order. Very few of Nengorth's guards can't just be battled. The only one I know for certain can't be bypassed is just blocking a temple, although I think there's at least one more.
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PREVIOUSLY ON LET'S PLAY LORDS OF XULIMA: KILLED MORE NOT-BEHOLDER

AND NOW

We've voted to explore the area south of Nabros. But first, let's look at some screenshots that I skipped last time.



Curiously, the southeast exit from Cunavarn has a guard formation that doesn't vanish after you kill Nengorth. (Well, it's not that curious -- these are a different prince's guards.)



More curiously, this would be an underwhelming enemy formation if we faced it in Nengorth's castle. By this point, it's a joke.



Most curiously, the guards are immediately followed by this whale of a fight. Two of the ogre that was blocking the path to Sorrentia and one ogre the next tier up. We haven't fought the latter yet, but we also don't want to.



So we warp to Nabros. If I had to put money on a casual player clearing out a region, I'd choose Nabros Forest. Nabros will be something of a hub for a little while still, and there's enough food in the region to make it worth wandering. The bonus isn't incredible, but it's nice.



The southeast exit from Nabros has these high-level guards, also marked as soldiers of Khornil. Don't try to make sense of all of this.

It's only elite soldiers and elite archers, so we could take these guys, but we still don't want to. "Difficult" is on the mark here.



AROO AROO ARoh my heart just isn't in it this time.

That's a lot of four-hound formations. I'd like to speculate at this time that the hound progression is tied to your game progression, like so many other things. If you're a very diligent reader, you can go back and check my hypothesis against the hounds we've fought so far. That's more work than I care to put into confirming it, though.

Cursed Hound Young are rather passé at this point.



Oops -- excuse the timing. This is Hamaleth, the region south of Nabros. You can go ahead and forget that name, since it really is unimportant. This is just a connecting map from Nabros to the west, although it does have some notable features we won't explore yet.



And this is why we won't explore them. Why is this gate here? The only item of strategic importance it's blocking is a temple, but it's not as if any of the other temples have dedicated royal guards. Khornil, ladies and gentlemen!



So we go west instead.

Hey, the hammer is glowing!
A sign from the gods! Let us follow the light of Kersket.



The hammer glows even more brightly as we approach this colossus. Had we come here earlier, this fight would have been rated "Titanic." Presumably, it's possible to kill it without the hammer, but the designers certainly didn't want you to. Still, you know in your heart that someone has tried, and we all weep a little for those who attempt optimal Lords of Xulima play.

If I knew whether the hammerless version gave extra XP over the weaker one, I'd feel confident in awarding an OLOXPS here.



The Ulnalum Guardian doesn't have any more health than the toughest foes we've faced so far, and it has almost zero evasion. It's still a very difficult fight.

Ulnalum is the best metal in the Xulimaverse. If you've been paying attention, you may have noticed that our weapons have been getting gradual materials upgrades, from iron to bronze to silver and so on. Ulnalum is the pinnacle of metallic quality. If we're very lucky, we might end up with two ulnalum weapons by the end of the game. The Ulnalum Guardian isn't an endgame-quality foe (at least with the hammer in hand), but it does have some tricks up its... uh... well, it's got some tricks, okay?



Trick number one is what I like to call, "rocks fall, three people die."

Okay, that's an exaggeration. It hits three people for about 50 damage. Our sturdiest heroes can take two hits without dying, but half of us can only take one. Here's Rydia taking a second to the face, which is why you pump Constitution for your back row.

It also piles on a lot of wounds and some moderate stun. This is the first battle we've fought where wounds have been an impediment. (Thanks to Gaulen's awesome axe, we have been on the giving end for a little while now.)

The Ulnalum Guardian has exactly two attacks. The other one is a single-target rock throw that's the same but bigger. Notably, the stun duration is much longer on the single-target attack. We want Edward or Rydia to remove the stun when that happens.



Alas, victory is not to be ours on this attempt. The final and best trick the Ulnalum Guardian has is near-perfect defenses. It resists anything that isn't pure physical damage. Our bag of tricks includes bleeding, wounding, stunning, poisoning, and igniting, and the Guardian doesn't bat an eye at any of these. (And that's not just because it has no eyes.)

Mages can still contribute to this fight with their earth spells, which deal physical damage. Rydia's heralds are less helpful. The Herald of Valvet is happy to cast Sparks to no effect, and its regular attack is pretty unremarkable when it's not setting things on fire. The Herald of Nalaet is better, but its much-reduced defenses mean it crumples under the weight of the Guardian's attacks.

Oh well! We'll come back to this. Let's get stronger first.



I contemplate an equipment sidegrade for Edge. Katanas are tied for the "heaviest" swords along with bastard swords, even though claymores have the highest raw damage. I didn't jump on this, but I regret that, since it's a 50% increase in bleed damage with minimal loss thanks to the Sharp enchantment.

Swords are the most nuanced weapon class. The others are mostly tradeoffs between accuracy and efficacy, but swords don't follow that progression. Instead, the top-tier swords are the damage-heavy claymore, the bleed-heavy katana, and the one-handed bastard sword. If you must carry a shield, the bastard sword is the way to go -- there's no other remotely comparable one-handed weapon.



Next on our world tour, we visit the mausoleum in Cunavarn. I never did find the key to this mausoleum. I know I found it on my first playthrough, but on my first playthrough, I had maxed Gaulen's Exploration skill, which increases your vision radius and makes it much easier to find secrets. It's not the kind of skill you go out of your way for, but I had two skill books for it.



The antechamber of this mausoleum is full of these skulls. It's informative (if inaccurate) to call them bouncing skulls, but they're really... rotating? They move up and down in a sinusoidal pattern, making it difficult to tell where they actually are. Bump into one, and the entire party takes a good chunk of damage. That also removes the skull, so if you're feeling really reckless, you can charge through with a few trips back to the inn.



After disarming a trap and opening the gate, we find ice. (Ice, baby.) The game picks this opportunity to give us a tutorial. We can clear the ice by spending time and health. "There are also some spells that may help you get through," it adds, meaning there is exactly one spell that removes the ice.



The spell in question is a Mage/Arcane Soldier spell, but we have two of the relevant scroll, and we might as well use them. I want to say there's only one or two other areas where we'll find ice blocks. When cast in battle, the awesome-sounding Incinerate Air has the disappointing effect of removing freeze status from the party.



The guardian of this mausoleum is a lone Necromancer. "But it's not--" you protest. No. See, Necromancers have the endearing behavior of summoning low-level allies then hiding behind them.

Whether this is a cakewalk or a royal pain depends entirely on your ability to dispatch the summoned ally in less than two rounds. That should be easy at this point, but in case you can't, the Necromancer will start casting spells from behind its skeletal comrades. Actually, it's kind of a pain either way, since you have to waste turns killing filler skeletons so that you can take a few swings at the Necromancer, but it's still a cakewalk.

The mausoleum held absolutely no treasure of note.
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At this point, I realize that the power to find the second prince was inside me all along, and I check the world map. There's a lot of very helpful information condensed into the world map, like how the SNES release of Final Fantasy III came bundled with a map of both the World of Balance and World of Ruin with every location labeled. Geez, spoilers!

The first thing you might notice in the map as I have it positioned here is that Khornil's castle is west of Cunavarn. Particularly astute readers will notice that Cunavarn has two west exits. The southern one leads to the castle, and we probably should have gone there instead of chasing colossi, shouldn't we? Well, there'll be time for that.

Less obviously, this map shows the locations of the mausoleums, dimensional portals, and witch houses. The witch locations are especially important, since it can be difficult to find them otherwise. There's one on the cape in Hadiros (the one we already defeated), but there's also a witch west of Khornil's castle.

Disappointingly, the map doesn't show the locations of altars, although the temples are there.



I elect to head back to Odendro's Forest to kill a few more trees. In the process, we get a few levels up. I mentioned last time that the Herald of Nalaet didn't have Greater Heal yet, but I was wrong about that. Not pictured: Rydia will gain access to Heralds Destiny at level 16, increasing the duration of her summons.



Edward gets Song of Awakening at 16, which you might as well pick up, since it's another one-point wonder (...that costs three points. I didn't invent the terminology, okay?). Sleep tends to be a party-wide status, so this is very good to have.



And Cecil gets Divine Prayer at 16. It's a whopper of a level, I guess. (Gaulen is already 16, thanks to the arena.)

Divine Prayer is less useful on the Paladin versus the Cleric. Partly, this is because it comes later for him, but it's also because Cecil wants to use that turn to attack, while attacking is a waste of a turn for Rosa. Paladins also have less use for the PP. We'll still grab it, because it's a free heal.

At this point, I get a brilliant (read: stupid) idea: what if I, like, used Kersket's Hammer on the Ulnalum Guardian? Like, from the menu on the world map? Even though you can't actually do that?



So I killed the Ulnalum Guardian. Rydia died to let us win this battle, RIP. We can attribute this victory not to my terrible idea, but to the ten shuriken I expended on it. The Ulnalum Guardian may not bleed, but shuriken still do crazy damage. This is why you want a thief.

I may or may not have hit up a priestess for a few blessings before attempting this battle. I don't think I did, but it would have been a good idea.



With the Guardian defeated, Kersket's Hammer turns into inventory filler, and we are free to go west.



The region of Velaskar is home to the town of the same name. Once again, finding a new merchant results in a global merchant upgrade.



JBear gets his cameo appearance in this Let's Play. The whole town is impressed that we destroyed the Ulnalum Guardian, which makes sense, since I'm also pretty impressed that we pulled it off.



New quests:
  • Clear the region
  • Collect the loot
  • Find the guy
  • Find the dead guy
  • Collect the loot

The second quest wants nine Cursed Hound Fangs, which is particularly cruel. Those fangs are one of a very few portable means of relieving Fatal Wounds, and they sell for a good amount. I don't remember the quest rewards being good enough to warrant giving them up. Sandworm Fangs (the fifth quest) are also quite nice, but they're also much less rare.



"Divine help"? If they really wanted to help, they could have done a lot better.
Still, it's nice to meet someone who appreciates our divine mission. Say, what was the Ulnalum Guardian, anyway?



That's the second-most idiotic story I've ever heard.

A little more chitchat with the townsfolk reveals that Kiriong was also working on a way to enter the Hall of Heroes when he died, yet another secret he took to his grave. Sharing is caring, Kiriong.



The game is not kidding about the "slow and tiring" bit. The desert is the most expensive terrain we've encountered so far. Our food supplies drain at an alarming rate in this area, which is our cue to start training Gaulen's Knowledge of Terrain skill.



Hugging the east wall will take you to the region's dimensional portal. It's guarded by a sand worm, which bears a striking resemblance to a xenomorph in its portrait. The "troublesome" rating is a portent of bad things to come.



Not necessarily for this particular battle (although a single attack dealing 84 damage plus six wounds is enough to give me pause), but the desert has sand worms traveling in pairs. It's a problem.



Sand worms hit like trucks, but they don't have the bulk to follow through on that threat. Here's our first Sandworm Fang. It's not the first time we've seen an item cure Sick (meaning any sickness -- it's a category of minor but persistent status effects), but it also restores a whopping 100 PP. Only Rydia even has that much at this point.



The desert is littered with treasure, which is more than ample compensation for the hassle of traversing it. Gold is common here, but we can also find other goodies. Check every skeleton you see here. Some have nothing, but most carry an item or two.



The northwest corner of the canyon holds the altar to Kersket, our destination in this trip. It's guarded by three stone golems, a fight that's "difficult." For those of you keeping track at home, that's worse than "troublesome."

But we didn't come this far to go home empty-handed.



The stone golems are essentially miniature Ulnalum Guardians. They don't have the resistances of their forebear, and they collectively have a bit less health, but there are three of the murder triplets. Our saving grace in this battle is twofold: first, we can focus them down, reducing our incoming damage, and second, they're vulnerable to wounds.



That second point becomes very relevant as Gaulen finds himself alone against the last golem, who is unable to touch him after taking 20 wounds.



In exchange for the Amberian Diamond, Kersket grants us his eternal reward: +5 Constitution for the entire party. If you were struggling with inventory weight, this is a godsend (har har). Either way, this is a very nice +20 HP to everyone who had at least 10 Constitution -- which should be everyone by this point.

NEXT TIME ON LET'S PLAY LORDS OF XULIMA: CASTLES ON RAILS

OLOXPS COUNT: 12 (mushrooms, locks and traps, cereal plants, encounter clearing, herald of Golot, bard songs, Golot's blessing, mausoleum keys, the arena, minions before bosses, riddle imps, Odendro drops)

No new OLOXPS, since I was feeling merciful today.

UNSOLVED MYSTERIES:
  • The arena in Sorrentia has ever more monsters to kill.
  • Cunavarn's quests still want us to kill witch, find the thing, find the dead person, and collect the loot.
  • Velaskar's quests still want us to exterminate monsters, collect the loot, find the person, find the dead person, and collect the other loot.
  • Khornil's castle is, like, right there.

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Uh... Didn't you just solve the first of those mysteries?
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Shh... it's a secret to everybody.
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PREVIOUSLY ON LET'S PLAY LORDS OF XULIMA: KILLED STATUE

AND NOW



Still lagging behind, Rosa finally hits 15. Next level, she'll have the opportunity to ignore learning Dispel. At second level, Dispel removes only debuffs or only buffs, depending on whether you targeted an ally or enemy. I have never cast Dispel, and I don't intend to start now.



The southeast portion of the Velaskar map is this ex-river. We're approaching it from the south, and it runs all the way back up to the northeast corner. This area is important because it contains hints for getting into the Hall of Heroes.



The solution to the puzzle doesn't change, so I don't need to be here. I'm mostly interested in this area because the enemies are easier here than the desert's sand worms.

The vulture in this picture is decorative.



Not decorative: birds. The Giant Raven is the third tier of blackbird. Like its predecessors, it's fast and evasive, and it attacks to deal moderate damage and bleed. In this case, "moderate" means about 40 damage, and the bleed is in the 15-20 range. Giant Raven bad.



Edward is once again key here, since the birds have little resistance to stuns. Killing the Giant Raven quickly is very much advised here.

Birds drop shiny rings. They're unenchanted, so they're only good for selling, but the flavor is appreciated.



Another one of Kiriong's notes. If he had to die, at least he left good notes on the riddle he was working on.
But not on, say, the giant unstoppable death statue. He had some strange priorities.



Aren't we supposed to use these to solve some sort of puzzle? These read like a history textbook.
Maybe so... but there's some odd attention to some specific details.

But you'll just have to puzzle over that yourselves, because we're not visiting the Hall of Heroes today.



AROO ARoh my

We've graduated from Cursed Hound Young with the introduction of the green-eyed Cursed Hound. (Remember, the text suggests that the hounds are after your valuables. It makes sense.) The Cursed Hound is just a numerical upgrade. It has no new tricks, and it's not as powerful as the Cursed Hound Young were when we first encountered them, but the numbers are just bigger enough to command some respect.

The Cursed Hound manages to curse Cecil (same curse as the Cursed Hound Young: -10 evasion). We get two fangs for our troubles.



Our intrepid band takes the southeast exit from Cunavarn, which deposits us right at the steps to Khornil's castle. There are... quite a few guards here. You can't really see them all. Trust me.



GAME OVER, BAD END
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That was stupid. Let's not go that way.



The northern entrance to Karraga (that's where we are) leads to a vast tundra, but right at the entrance, we have the option of going into this snow-free forest. That's where we want to go.



Here's the upgraded ogre I mentioned earlier. It's not as tough as I had anticipated. In fact, all the encounters here are suspiciously easy. Like, goblins easy.



We get a picturesque view of the rear of Khornil's castle as the forest breaks back into the tundra briefly.



That brief break is long enough for this guy to sneak in. If I'd noticed who it was, I might not have even tried this battle. Yotum Adults (a perversion of Jotunn, in all likelihood) are fairly rare in this region, and Yotum Young are the more level-appropriate encounter. The adult form is, by all rights, a boss-level encounter for our team.



So I treat it like a boss encounter and manage to squeak out a win. We get our first Yotum Fang. Cunavarn wants something like nine of these.

Good XP, though.



Meanwhile, the forest is throwing easy-five-levels-ago encounters at us. Oh, and here's the Karraga dimensional portal.



Oh, look! Another song Edward won't learn. Even if you're way into these crowd control songs, silence is pretty marginal. I would hope, at least, that enemy mages resist this less often than Song of Stunning, but I wouldn't put money on that.



I'm not kidding about this forest. We fought this exact formation at level 5.



A circuitous route through the southern forest (check the minimap) leads us to this crumbled wall and therefore to Khornil's castle. That's just shoddy guardsmanship, which will become sort of a theme really soon here.



See, if you haven't noticed yet, Khornil has a lot of guards, and a lot of them are pretty high-level.



But they're deployed throughout the castle in such a way that the game might as well have signs that say "NOT THIS WAY, DUMMY." As a result, this particular castle is a game of "follow the breadcrumb trail of guards that won't kill you before you get in a turn."



This looks a lot like foreshadowing, but I don't think this guy ever shows up again.



Hey, the note he left behind looks important and helpful!

It's not.



Thank you, kind sir! I'm sure that advice will prove important and helpful.

It won't.
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Here's what passes for a puzzle in Khornil's castle: flip the switches around until you find the combination that opens the secret door. Lords of Xulima has some well-designed dungeons, but this isn't one of them.

The note we picked up earlier takes it from 31 possible combinations (2^5 minus the initial configuration) to 10, so it's not like it's entirely useless.



Yul, it's time to up your game. This isn't exactly paying the bills.
The wages of sin are death.
But we just got more HP. QED, sucka!



It's time for another round of Fiddle with Switches! Just beyond the passage that just opened up is a teleporter. We sure wouldn't have found that without the prisoner's tip!



Sure enough, it deposits us directly into Khornil's lavish hall.



Surgeon General's Warning: Khornil is a talker.



Surgeon General's Warning: Khornil is dreamy.



If we'd bothered talking to Cunavarn's NPCs, we'd have the explanation that Prince "The Enchanter" Khornil does some sort of mind-control thing. That's why Gaulen doesn't raise any objections when the prince offers to make him a king. This is only relevant in the cutscene. Khornil does not enchant anything when we fight him (oops, spoilers).



Golot intervenes by smiting Gaulen. Could've smote Khornil, but no....



If you ignore the out-of-depth guards, Khornil's castle is a real pushover. Khornil himself is another matter. Blizzard hits the entire party with a chance to freeze. (Freeze status is identical to stun.) It's damaging enough to take out the Herald of Nalaet in one hit, making healing harder than it ought to be. Khornil's regular attack hits the entire front row and stuns them. Finally, he can cast Ice Shards to damage and bleed a single target. Ice Shards isn't exactly a good time, but it's better than the alternatives.



This battle is about killing him before he kills you. Khornil doesn't have stellar defenses, fortunately. (He's also worth less experience than the Yotums wandering around outside.)



Did you ignore the pre-battle cutscene? Well, I've got good news!



For defeating Khornil, we get actual good loot. These shoes are the best.



And these gloves are so bad.

And then I gave Rosa the wrong skill while leveling her up, and I had to redo the Khornil battle.

NEXT TIME ON LET'S PLAY LORDS OF XULIMA: EXORCISM

OLOXPS COUNT: 12 (mushrooms, locks and traps, cereal plants, encounter clearing, herald of Golot, bard songs, Golot's blessing, mausoleum keys, the arena, minions before bosses, riddle imps, Odendro drops)

No new OLOXPS, since I was feeling merciful today.

UNSOLVED MYSTERIES:
  • The arena in Sorrentia has ever more monsters to kill.
  • Cunavarn's quests still want us to kill witch, find the thing, find the dead person, and collect the loot.
  • Velaskar's quests still want us to exterminate monsters, collect the loot, find the person, find the dead person, and collect the other loot.
  • The temple of Alnaet is open for business.
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PREVIOUSLY ON LET'S PLAY LORDS OF XULIMA: KILLED KHORNIL

AND NOW



Fresh off a victory over impious prince #2, our party returns to Cunavarn to be washed in the adulations of a grateful populace. The innkeeper gives us a rather paltry 800 XP, the trainer gives his usual skill point (and Gaulen delivers some stone cold truth), the priestess gives her standard 1 HP and 1 PP, the merchant gives a Life Potion (removes Fatal Wound status), and the food vendor would top us out at three full days of food if I bothered to talk to her, but we already have nearly that much.



Speaking of the merchant, he's got a very nice upgrade for Edge.

Both his current weapon and his new weapon have a bonus status effect. It usually doesn't trigger, because enemy defenses absorb a few status effect points. We're only likely to wound on a crit, and even then, only against a monster that has no wound resistance. Ideally, we'd want a bleed enchantment on our katana to increase the existing effect, but a single wound is better than a single second of stun.

Along the same lines, this is also why it's hard to keep an enemy stunlocked. Rosa and Rydia technically do have stunning weapons, but they only ever stun extremely weak enemies, and even then, it's unreliable. You can increase your status effectiveness by increasing your Agility. I've been putting a lot more points into Agility this game than I did in my first run for this reason, trading some raw damage for extra wounds and bleeding. (Not stunning, though -- that's mostly useful when you've got multiple stunners.)



Khornil gave us the key to Alnaet's temple, so that's our next destination. Now, at this point, if I had -- oh, wait, hold on.
HEY GAULEN
Um... yeah?

I JUST REMEMBERED WHERE THE OTHER FOUR KEYS ARE

THERE ARE FOUR TITANS WANDERING AROUND XULIMA


Oh. That sounds dangerous.

YEAH

YOU ARE AS FLEAS BEFORE THEM
So you're going to give us some sort of artifact that will help us defeat the titans?

THAT DOES SOUND LIKE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA AND I WISH I HAD THOUGHT OF THAT

BUT I'M SURE YOU GUYS WILL FIGURE OUT SOMETHING

GOLOT OUT


So you're saying he has one of the four remaining keys?

That's what Golot told me.



Wow, he's enormous. How did we not notice him earlier?

You may recognize the cold, dispassionate face of this titan from the promotional material. It's also the Steam icon.

Anyway, as I was saying: at this point, if I had purchased the DLC for the game, Golot would have given us some sort of artifact that would have helped us defeat the titans. It adds some sort of collection quest, as far as I can tell, and the more doodads you find, the more bonuses you get. My understanding is that you can spend doodad points on various bonuses, notably including more skill points. I admit that it would be convenient, but the prospect of paying cash money to make the game easier really rubs me the wrong way. The DLC also comes with a guide that discusses the technical aspects of the game, which does appeal to me, although without knowing exactly how much detail it contains, I can't say with any certainty that it's worth the purchase.

The DLC is one of the more obnoxious reasons that optimal Lords of Xulima play sucks.
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Anyway, let's pretend that the DLC doesn't exist and proceed to the temple of Alnaet. Here, we find a vampire and an ice-flavored skeletal archer.



Vampires attack to deal moderate bleeding with a chance to inflict a really annoying disease. They also recover a small amount of health with each attack. The ice archer causes freezing, which is functionally identical to stunning.



The temple is laid out as two branches that have an enemy you must kill so that you can proceed down the central branch to the boss. At the extreme edges, there are optional, treasure-bearing passages such as this one. There are no random encounters here, but you do take very minor damage as you walk through here, which can be further mitigated by cold resistance.



Oh, hold on. I take it back: freezing is not entirely identical to stunning. It gives +30 defense, which is a large bonus that doesn't really make up for your total lack of evasion. Freezing can also be healed by taking fire damage -- caveat sorceror.

Vampires are bleed-vulnerable, unlike nearly everything else in this dungeon, and they can cast some spells such as the one that put Gaulen in a block of ice. The palette-swapped soldier here is a Living Armor, which is as bulky as it sounds but is otherwise unremarkable.

Frankly, if you've beaten Khornil (as you must before you can come here), then this temple is pretty easy.



"Yul wants you to die."
"Never!"

I play RPGs for the story.



There's a bit of foreshadowing here. The titans guard the keys to the temples because, as far as I know, the respective Lords gave them the keys. I'm not sure why Gaulen thinks this is a mystery. They should be loyal to the eight, but they've defected to Yul, and the herald drops a hint as to their motivation. He also discusses the princes' motivation, but I could have sworn Yul just made them immortal and that we've been over this. I suppose he did get the eight Lords off their backs, but I don't know why the princes would have cared.



But we have no time to dwell on that, because we have a boss to fight. The herald's attacks are mostly old news by now: the usual boss attacks that damage multiple heroes. The one pictured here is new, though, and it's really annoying -- it damages a single character's HP and PP. The HP damage is minor, but it takes out a large chunk of PP.



Still, Khornil was a harder fight.



"...and are so impatient that it is difficult to get more than a hint of information from them."

Hold on. You're the impatient one. This is revisionist history.

I write the journal. I get to decide.



Since the last temple, I came upon a horrible realization: you can throw things other than Nalaet's Tears into the well of souls. You get experience for tossing junk in there.

You get experience for tossing your inventory into the well. Experience that is otherwise in limited supply. I've said it before, but this really takes it to a new level. Optimal Lords of Xulima play sucks.

Now, as you can see, our donation of a cereal plant didn't exactly bear fruit. The bonuses are pretty small, all things considered. But we could get money by selling the cereal plants[needs confirmation], and we could use that money to buy items that do give experience. Limited XP is a core design element in this game, and this splits that wide open, one lousy cereal plant at a time.



Tossing Nalaet's Tears into the well prevents us from donating any more junk, but it also gives more XP than you'd get from hours of cereal plant farming.



Cleansing the temple prompts another round of generosity from the townsfolk (priestess, trainer, and innkeeper, the last of which gives gold this time around), although the exact identity of the random consumable we got from the merchant is lost to time.



And because I don't learn from my mistakes, I once again get the food vendor to restore me to three days of food twice.

NEXT TIME ON LET'S PLAY LORDS OF XULIMA: TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS

OLOXPS COUNT: 14 (mushrooms, locks and traps, cereal plants, encounter clearing, herald of Golot, bard songs, Golot's blessing, mausoleum keys, the arena, minions before bosses, riddle imps, Odendro drops, DLC, well of souls)

UNSOLVED MYSTERIES:
  • The arena in Sorrentia has ever more monsters to kill.
  • Cunavarn's quests still want us to kill witch, find the thing, find the dead person, and collect the loot.
  • Velaskar's quests still want us to exterminate monsters, collect the loot, find the person, find the dead person, and collect the other loot.
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So these must be the Four Fiends Titans of the Elements.

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Money out of your wallet / bank account.
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Ohhh daaaang

But (spoilers) we won't fight the four elemental fiends until practically the end of the game.
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The four princes are holding four of the eight keys. The other four are an absolute mystery, and no one can possibly okay yes they are.
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So, I finally started playing this last week, after adding it to my Steam library when Mogri mentioned it being on sale back in... June? Not long before the LP began, I think. Anyway, I'm playing it now, and am absolutely f*cking obsessed with it. It's so good, you guys! I burned a vacation day to just sit home and play it all day. Anyway, I'm ahead of the LP now (and this LP is great, BTW), and just burned through that all at once too, and since I have no one else to talk to about this and am bursting to do just that, I'm going to reply to all the updates since it began as if I was reading along. I have quite a lot to comment on, and some of it is of the "well, actually" variety (and I don't want to look nit-picky), so I'm hiding the whole gigantic wall of text behind a spoiler-pop. Note that it doesn't contain any actual spoilers, though.


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Don't play Lords of Xulima optimally. I'll come back to this topic later.

THAT SAID: I'm not picking these mushrooms today because a single mushroom is no good. I'm at least going to wait until I have a chance to get ten of a kind.
Man, you're already optimizing way more than me. I couldn't be arsed to go herb-picking back through old areas later (not did I trust myself to remember), so I've just been picking as I go.

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The second (and secret most important) purpose to these trainers is their ability to dispense skill points. For a decreasingly modest fee, they'll give the entire party an additional skill point to be used at the next level up. We'll get into skill points in detail a little later, but for now, suffice it to say that we'll drop more than a million gold into training before the end of the game. We don't have that kind of money for now, so we'll pass.
One of the first things that I did was blow literally all of my early money on skill points, because I didn't realize that you could only level each skill up once per level. >_< I really wish I'd paced myself, because this gave me way too many skill points at level 2, and too few for a smattering of levels 3-10 or so. Also, that's what I bought instead of armour, which made the early game... difficult. I was expecting to find more armour in chests. The game got a lot easier once I could afford to hide everyone's shame.

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The trap disarming minigame is rubbish.
I... I really like it.

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The weapon skills increase your accuracy with attacks from that weapon class. Increasing Shurikens has some influence but it's hard to say what because the game doesn't tell you.
Yes it does. You can just mouse-over the skill when you're leveling up and it'll show you the current bonus that skill gives and how that bonus will change if you choose to level-up that skill. IIRC, raising Shurikens increases base damage, bleed damage by 1, and accuracy by 5.

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Knowledge of Terrains decreases our food consumption as we travel on rough terrain, a must later on but not worth an investment at the moment
I really wish I'd tossed more points in this as I was leveling. I only put one or two points in it until level 12 or so, and didn't understand why I'd ever need it, and then all of a sudden the game started hitting me with tundra and deserts and I was filled with regret.

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The optimal play with Object Identification is unclear (although it probably sucks, whatever it is). Given the ever-increasing cost of skill points, it's probably best to put just a few points into the skill.
I won't claim to know what's optimal, but I've been raising this every other level or so on my Mage. The Mage generally has skill points to spare, I find, and it's nice to be able to put on gear as soon as I find it. Also, ID is a big money-saver; arguably bigger than Mercantilism (which I haven't raised on anyone, since it's too expensive in my party).

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Right now, Gaulen has an abundance of skill points. Only Knowledge of Herbs and his weapon skill are priorities, and while we'll be stuck increasing them until level 30, that's still just three points per level.
You focus on weapon skills much more religiously than I do. I mean, they're important, but all they do is increase accuracy by 5, which like a 1/6th of the accuracy hit you choose to take by using 2H weapons on everyone. I typically just make sure that they're high enough to use the latest toys and ignore them otherwise (well, other than Shurikens and my Barbarian's weapon skill, since those only cost 1 each).

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How skill-starved he is later depends on how many of the utility skills you've managed to offload to other characters. We'll make Gaulen our Perception guy (everyone learns it, but only Explorer and Thief get it for 1), although I forgot to increase it this time. Optimal play is to completely neglect Perception, which for once isn't a terrible idea as long as you're saving constantly, which you should anyway since Perception isn't foolproof.
I can't imagine playing without a Thief. Gaulen technically has all the utility skills, but at the prices he pays, I can't fathom learning any of them except Perception. They're prohibitively expensive, and Gaulen of all people doesn't have the points to spare. As for Perception though, I prioritize it on both Gaulen and my Thief, since I think that skill is super important and I like being able to roll it twice. And it's not just to save me quick-saving/reloading for traps either; Perception finds secret doors, and I've been finding a ton of secret doors that I wouldn't otherwise (I'll try to remember to point out the ones that it looks like the LP missed), since Xulima's secret door implementation makes it super unlikely that you'll find the way to open them if you don't know they're there first. Whenever my party finds a door, I start carefully scanning the nearby area for tiny switches.

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cauldrons give a stat boost to one party member. Many of them give skill points.
Ppht, says you. The cauldrons are random, and I haven't been able to find skill point cauldrons to save my life.

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Fortunately, every character in Lords of Xulima comes equipped with the "Help an ally" command (found under the helmet icon in the top menu, hotkeyed to H).
It took me forever to figure this out. The game even tells you about the Help command, but I could never find it. I thought the helmet was just the re-position button, since that's what I used it for at the start and then started clicking on the party formation directly when I wanted to re-position and forgot about it.

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I mentioned that the Soniara is the first reason to hate Sporia Forest. Its nearly-identical cousin the Rasmaga is the second. I think this one is a Soniara, but I can't tell at a glance, and that's kind of a huge problem in terms of evaluating a battle's difficulty
You can tell, actually! If you mouse over each portrait in an ambush, the pop-up will give you the enemy name, which, as you say, is invaluable information at times.

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Whether or not you buy him off, Taldin will steal an extra 50 gold as he goes.

Gaulen suggests that we might bump into this guy in the future. If you check the journal entry for this event, it also suggests that we might bump into this guy in the future. We do not ever see him again.
While this is technically true, I do seem to recall finding a couple of notes left by him. I think they were in each of the next two castles, and both dealt with finding treasure therein.

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Here's what it looks like when you try to avoid the soldiers and fail. Check out the timeline on the right -- most of the party was dead before anyone got a turn.
This is one of the few design decisions that I take issue with. If you're trying to run from a fight, then there's a good chance it's because you think you'll lose that fight, so there's no need to add insult to injury and give the enemy group a million turns first (not to mention that you can't reload a save until they kill you or someone finally gets a turn). It's pretty frustrating. Plus if they didn't penalize you so severely, you'd still have a chance to run away with each party member manually during the battle, which would still punish you with some parting shots but not force a reload.

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Hold on. I'm almost positive it's not necessary to fight this encounter, but I really have no idea what the intended route is here. If I had to guess, I'd say it involves going through the steamy area at the top of the map, which deals damage over time but is still much more survivable than this nonsense. But I could swear there's an identical guard formation blocking us from the entrance there, too.

The low-level goblin group guarding the portal is Lords of Xulima saying, "Hey, dummy, this is what an area-appropriate encounter looks like." If anyone happens to know what the intended path is to Nengorth's castle, I'd love to hear it.
I mean, you just answered your own question. Going through the steamy area at the top allows you to avoid any ridiculously out-of-depth encounters. I definitely never had to fight anything like that. You might have gotten mixed up, since going the long way around still requires you to kill a guard formation, but it's just a very reasonable one solider and one archer.

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This is the castle's alchemy room. The green clouds will hurt us as we pass through, dealing probably 12 damage to each party member (mitigable through Organic Resistance, but there's no good source of it for now, and it's not worth speccing for a specific trap). There's no way around them, although this room is optional.

The flames in the castle's entryway are similar to the toxic gases. They deal much more damage, though, and check Fire Resistance instead of Organic Resistance. More importantly, there's a way to get rid of them.
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As the note suggests, the passage north of here is filled with spiders, which in this case is a fancy damage terrain instead of combat. The prison in Nengorth's castle is the first time you'll see the webs-with-spiders terrain. I opted to skip it, leaving a live prisoner in his cell to rot because he gave a paltry amount of experience in exchange for taking a large amount of spider damage.
You can burn away both toxic clouds and spider webs with an Incinerate Air scroll just like you use an End of Flames scroll to put out the fires blocking the entrance. Most loot is random, but I'm pretty sure you're guaranteed to get all 3 of those scrolls in specific places in Nengorth castle for just that reason. I took at it as a kind of environmental modification scroll tutorial, and started keeping 2 of each on hand from then forward (until my Mage learned the spells, anyway).

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Yoranwa's cabin is cleverly hidden. If it weren't for Caleb and his good-for-nothing son, you would almost certainly go through the map without finding her.
You clearly spend a lot less time wall-humping than I do. I'm always bumping into the treeline looking for secrets as I travel, and am often rewarded for it. I found the cabin before I found the farm.

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The Book of Life sells for a lot of money. Don't sell the Book of Life.
Unfortunately, I got that big diamond for Kersket as my first altar donation item, and I came very close to doing just that. It's a big diamond that sells for a mint! I thought that selling it was the whole point! I'd have kicked myself so hard if I'd sold it (and been pretty peeved at the game).

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Whoa -- whoops!
Edward! What have you done?
Sorry, boss...
I dropped the priceless artifact into the terrifying pit of despair.
Well, would you look at that! It cleared right up.
Speaking of screwing up handling divine items, I missed this at first as well. The game really doesn't clue it very well, if you ask me.

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Did this guy go to the Ellipsis School of Writing?
He must have been part of the Vandal Hearts localization team.

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Armor/accessory enchantments come in a few varieties:
  • Other stuff tends to be mostly bad. There's probably a good build out there rocking all +evasion, but I don't know why I'd ever put +defense in my ring slot.
You missed one of my favourite armour egos, which is "Light". I'm able to put my Thief & Gaulen in heavy armour thanks to the Light ego, which is a huge help in keeping them alive on the front row.

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Now, there are a few problems with this puzzle, not least being that I'm pretty sure I missed one of the rocks. I'm about 75% sure that the missing rock says the rat kills the snake in some fashion. But even if we had that clue, there's no way to pin down a definitive ordering for the lion.

So there's some guesswork involved. But the puzzle is fun, and guessing isn't penalized, so I enjoyed this.
The rock that you missed does indeed say that the rat eats the snake while it's paralyzed by spider venom, but it also says that the lion watches it happen, so there's a definitive ordering and no guesswork involved.

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Most curiously, the guards are immediately followed by this whale of a fight. Two of the ogre that was blocking the path to Sorrentia and one ogre the next tier up. We haven't fought the latter yet, but we also don't want to.
You're conflating ogres and ulrogs. I've carved through a ton of ulrogs, but I have yet to fight another ogre after that one blocking the road.

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That's a lot of four-hound formations. I'd like to speculate at this time that the hound progression is tied to your game progression, like so many other things. If you're a very diligent reader, you can go back and check my hypothesis against the hounds we've fought so far. That's more work than I care to put into confirming it, though.
I had a similar speculation, but, IIRC, I later disproved it, when I got my first adult hound in the same zone that I got my ump-teenth multi-young-hound battle without any meaningful plot progression in between.

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Next on our world tour, we visit the mausoleum in Cunavarn. I never did find the key to this mausoleum.
It's in the NW corner of the zone, in the trees to the south of the path near the NW exit. Wall-humping FTW.

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After disarming a trap and opening the gate, we find ice. (Ice, baby.) The game picks this opportunity to give us a tutorial. We can clear the ice by spending time and health. "There are also some spells that may help you get through," it adds, meaning there is exactly one spell that removes the ice.
IIRC, I found a secret passage to the east of the skull room that bypassed the ice-filled corridor. That was almost worse though, since it involved traversing the skull room more.

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At this point, I realize that the power to find the second prince was inside me all along, and I check the world map.
O_o I didn't know you could zoom it in! That's super useful.

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JBear gets his cameo appearance in this Let's Play.
Man, I wish. The skill trainers are the richest people in Xulima given how much money I pay them for their services.

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The second quest wants nine Cursed Hound Fangs, which is particularly cruel. Those fangs are one of a very few portable means of relieving Fatal Wounds, and they sell for a good amount. I don't remember the quest rewards being good enough to warrant giving them up.
Yeah, it absolutely wasn't worth it, but the completionist in me couldn't say no. I had exactly 10 fangs, and gave them all away.

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The southeast portion of the Velaskar map is this ex-river. We're approaching it from the south, and it runs all the way back up to the northeast corner. This area is important because it contains hints for getting into the Hall of Heroes. ... I'm mostly interested in this area because the enemies are easier here than the desert's sand worms.
Man, I didn't find that to be the case at all. I found the sand worms to be kind of pushovers at this point, but the giant green spiders that start showing up in the dry riverbed absolutely wrecked my shit. And the game was calling encounters with several of them "Balanced". Balanced my ass.

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We've graduated from Cursed Hound Young with the introduction of the green-eyed Cursed Hound. ... The Cursed Hound manages to curse Cecil (same curse as the Cursed Hound Young: -10 evasion).
This actually isn't the case, although I thought that they were the same at first as well. The young hounds apply -10 evasion, but the adults apply the much worse -10 action modifier (well, either that or they have a chance to apply either, but I've only found the latter since I started paying attention to it).

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Hey, the note he left behind looks important and helpful!

It's not.
It totally is.

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Here's what passes for a puzzle in Khornil's castle: flip the switches around until you find the combination that opens the secret door. Lords of Xulima has some well-designed dungeons, but this isn't one of them.

The note we picked up earlier takes it from 31 possible combinations (2^5 minus the initial configuration) to 10, so it's not like it's entirely useless.

It's time for another round of Fiddle with Switches!
This puzzle makes more sense than you're giving it credit for. The problem is that there are in fact two notes, one referring to each set of switches, and you evidently missed the other one, and misattributed the one that you did find to the wrong set of switches. You found the note that applies to the teleporter room switches, and it's saying that the correct combination involves a bank of 3 consecutive switches in the up position, which actually leave us with only 6 possible combinations.

IIRC, the other note (which I think was left by our friend Taldin) specifically references the treasure room, and it says that the correct sequence has a set of "up, down, down" in it or something similar, which again leaves us with only 6 possible solutions that are quick to test.

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Along the same lines, this is also why it's hard to keep an enemy stunlocked. Rosa and Rydia technically do have stunning weapons, but they only ever stun extremely weak enemies, and even then, it's unreliable. You can increase your status effectiveness by increasing your Agility. I've been putting a lot more points into Agility this game than I did in my first run for this reason, trading some raw damage for extra wounds and bleeding. (Not stunning, though -- that's mostly useful when you've got multiple stunners.)
I think you undervalue stun. I only have one stunner (my Paladin), but there's more to stunning than stun-locking, and I still find it super useful, since when she stuns someone, the rest of the party briefly gets a 100% hit-rate, which makes it a great time to apply a bunch of wounds, bleeds, and poisons.

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Cleansing the temple prompts another round of generosity from the townsfolk (priestess, trainer, and innkeeper, the last of which gives gold this time around), although the exact identity of the random consumable we got from the merchant is lost to time.
It was a Restoration Potion I, which is a pretty swank potion that restores HP & PP and removes wounds, bleeds, and poisons.

God, putting that together took like 2 hours. Where did my afternoon go? >_<
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Wow geez. Glad to see you're enjoying the game!

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It took me forever to figure this out. The game even tells you about the Help command, but I could never find it. I thought the helmet was just the re-position button, since that's what I used it for at the start and then started clicking on the party formation directly when I wanted to re-position and forgot about it.
Yes, same here. If they didn't give that loading tip, I could've made it through the game without discovering that command.

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Unfortunately, I got that big diamond for Kersket as my first altar donation item, and I came very close to doing just that. It's a big diamond that sells for a mint! I thought that selling it was the whole point! I'd have kicked myself so hard if I'd sold it (and been pretty peeved at the game).
I think you can repurchase it if you sell it. (I mean, that's true of anything, but I want to say it doesn't disappear when merchant stock resets it.) Still not worth it.

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Speaking of screwing up handling divine items, I missed this at first as well. The game really doesn't clue it very well, if you ask me.
I discovered it on accident, really, although the item description is a good clue if you're paying really good attention.

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Man, I didn't find that to be the case at all. I found the sand worms to be kind of pushovers at this point, but the giant green spiders that start showing up in the dry riverbed absolutely wrecked my shit. And the game was calling encounters with several of them "Balanced". Balanced my ass.
If you find yourself replaying the game, you may be surprised at which enemies become easier or harder depending on your party composition. Sandworms become much more manageable with a solid front line.

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I think you undervalue stun. I only have one stunner (my Paladin), but there's more to stunning than stun-locking, and I still find it super useful, since when she stuns someone, the rest of the party briefly gets a 100% hit-rate, which makes it a great time to apply a bunch of wounds, bleeds, and poisons.
Or stuns.


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God, putting that together took like 2 hours. Where did my afternoon go? >_<
That's time that you could have spent playing Lords of Xulima!
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That's time that you could have spent playing Lords of Xulima!
That's what I did in between handing out Halloween candy all evening!

And I discovered something else during that time: I recall you making fun of Dispel at one point in the LP, and I haven't had it long, but level 2 Dispel was invaluable in a difficult fight that you have coming up, since my Cleric was able to use it to remove Craze status from my entire party.
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Cleric's gotta resist Craze for that to work. And, come to think of it, I'd be a little surprised if Craze couldn't be removed by the Help command.

I assume you're talking about one of the jumbo eyeballs? Dispel would probably be a good idea, but it's a lot more finesse than my usual approach (reload a lot of times).
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Is there a way to make the text bigger in this game? I just bought it and it seems cool, but I can barely read the conversations with NPCs in the first town. I'm going to have to get a Steam refund on this if I can't fix this.
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I don't know that you can do it directly, but you can change the resolution. Playing at a lower resolution will increase the size of the text relative to the size of your monitor.
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I don't know that you can do it directly, but you can change the resolution. Playing at a lower resolution will increase the size of the text relative to the size of your monitor.
Yeah, I tried that. Even at the lowest resolution, it didn't get a lot bigger, and the decrease in sharpness made it a net negative. Damn it.
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:35 PM
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Check the settings file? Sometimes they stick the font options in those and you can meddle with things there.
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