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Old 05-15-2017, 08:11 AM
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Have the Star Wars comics helped any? Many people consider them separate from the "main" Marvel comics.
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Old 05-15-2017, 08:20 AM
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Star Wars books do pretty well. Generally Marvel isn't getting killed but I think DC has been winning ever since Rebirth.
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Not that this has anything to do with it. If anything, they ticked up a bit last month with the X-men relaunch (which had its own, entirely different, set of dumb political issues attached....)

DC actually beat Marvel in dollar sales in March (a REAL rarity, since DC's books are generally a buck cheaper), but that flipped back in April. Of course, Marvel puts out a lot more books / month to begin with.
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:06 PM
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Uncanny Avengers #16:

Did... Did the New Avengers team fill in for this arc? We've got:

- buddy comedy from Toad and Sebastian Shaw
- jokes about Cable's ridiculous outfits
- jokes about Johnny Storm
- the Hulk punches a Gundam

It's... Actually funny?
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:15 AM
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Uncanny Avengers #16:

Did... Did the New Avengers team fill in for this arc? We've got:

- buddy comedy from Toad and Sebastian Shaw
- jokes about Cable's ridiculous outfits
- jokes about Johnny Storm
- the Hulk punches a Gundam

It's... Actually funny?
Gerry Duggan is the writer, and he's got more of a comedy background.
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:37 AM
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Gerry Duggan is the writer, and he's got more of a comedy background.
It's just such a huge change from the "ALL DIRE DRAMA ALL THE TIME" of the first few Uncanny Avengers arcs. I like it but it's a huge swing.
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:56 AM
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Nearly done Spider-Verse. The main arc was, honestly, kind of disappointing. Felt kind of abrupt and the story didn't have anywhere near the amount of whimsy I'd expect or hope from a story where a million-billion Spidersmen team up to fight a whole family of bug-eating super-draculas. Few stand-out moments, but compared to a lot of story's in Dan Slotts run, it was a let down. Also, there's no explanation given for why the solution to the problem of "Vampires who eat Spider-Men" is to throw more and more Spider-men at them.

That being said; the supplemental stories where the Spider-Army is assembled or else focusing on their own What-If stories is fantastic and exactly what I wanted and hoped for from the arc when it was pitched.
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:59 AM
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Also, there's no explanation given for why the solution to the problem of "Vampires who eat Spider-Men" is to throw more and more Spider-men at them.
I figured it was just a simple "safety in numbers" thing.
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Old 05-16-2017, 11:11 AM
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It sounds like a positively Brannigan-esque strategy.
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Old 05-16-2017, 11:12 AM
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Also, throw enough Spider-Men at a problem, and eventually you toss Tokusatsu Spider-Man and his giant robot at said problem.

And no problem remains unsolved when a giant robot is thrown at it.
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Old 05-16-2017, 11:19 AM
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Also, throw enough Spider-Men at a problem, and eventually you toss Tokusatsu Spider-Man and his giant robot at said problem.

And no problem remains unsolved when a giant robot is thrown at it.
They exploded that robot in like, one panel.
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Old 05-16-2017, 11:21 AM
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The post-Secret Wars Spider-Verse stuff is a lot more in the vein of what I hoped for from Spider-Verse.
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Old 05-16-2017, 11:23 AM
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They exploded that robot in like, one panel.
And Spidey 2099 and Steampunk Spider-Woman repaired that giant mecha.

That sentence was delightful to write. For all it faults, Spider-Verse had some very cool moments.
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Old 05-16-2017, 12:17 PM
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The narration box introduced Spider-Gwen as "Your new favorite", by that's an awful bold statement when they also introduce The Steampunk Lady-Spider in the same issue.
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Old 05-16-2017, 12:29 PM
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That one got backed up by sales, at least.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:51 AM
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I'd accidentally never actually read Infinity Gauntlet before, so now I can cross that little whoops-a-daisy off my list. And I quite liked it.

Might have been the George Perez art making me think that way, but it felt like a much better take on CoIE, if the Monitor was a space hippy and Darkseid took over main villain duties, and the plot was concise and exciting instead of meandering and inexplicable.

Dr. Doom also has the Dr. Doomiest possible reason for getting involved, and The Living Tribunal straight-up saying that nothing Thanos has done is remotely serious enough to warrant his attention. Which is both a nice bit of foreshadowing for the nice and tidy resolution everything gets and helps reinforce how big of a deal the Tribunal is.
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Old 05-22-2017, 02:16 PM
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Started reading the original Lee/Kirby run of Thor.

The mightiest warrior from the Golden Halls of Asgard, wielder of the enchanted storm-hammer Mjolnir suuuuure spends a lot of time fighting the commies.

Also, Donald Blake seems to be convinced that the only reason his chief assistant won't go out with him is because he has a limp.
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Old 05-22-2017, 03:00 PM
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Now where have I heard that one before?


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Old 05-22-2017, 03:35 PM
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It's better here as thought-bubbles reveal that Jane Foster straight up does not like Donald Blake because he's a big friggin' dip.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:24 AM
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Thor became much better when they straight-out abandoned the Blake aspect. From what I've read of the early years, it just NEVER worked.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:30 AM
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Thor became much better when they straight-out abandoned the Blake aspect. From what I've read of the early years, it just NEVER worked.
I'd certainly agree; abandoning the Blake angle and replacing Foster with Sif dramatically improve early Thor. There've been a few subsequent attempts to revisit it, and I didn't like any of them very much either.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:39 AM
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The last time I saw him his severed head was being held in a magical dream reality that kept him happy.
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What's weird is that, in the early stories, Thor and Donald Blake have a Billy Batson/Captain Marvel-Esque relationship, as opposed to Blake being how Thor unwinds with comparatively stress-free living.

I mean, thriving medical practice and all that entails, yes, but fewer dragons trying to eat him.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:48 AM
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Thor became much better when they straight-out abandoned the Blake aspect. From what I've read of the early years, it just NEVER worked.
You can see them getting away from it almost immediately, changing the character of Thor from a super-powered disguise "possessing the powers of Thor" to the actual Norse god himself. It wasn't the only time they'd abruptly switch tracks like that (see Beast serving as a Ben Grimm stand-in in the earliest X-Men issues before suddenly developing a unique personality), but the Blake framework hung around in vestigial form for twenty years until Walt Simonson finally killed it.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:54 AM
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Thor's origin is possibly the most tangled of any of Marvel's superheroes. He is, simultaneously:

- Just Donald Blake with extra "legendary" power
- A "Big Red Cheese" Captain Marvel-esque personality that overlays onto anyone holding the hammer
- An eternal (or at least very long-lived) god, born aeons ago and bound into the mortal form of Donald Blake as punishment
- A godly reincarnation of a mortal manipulated by Odin in the course of the Ring Cycle
- The magical product of human belief inspired by contact with the Eternals
- Probably several other things that I'm forgetting
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Octo's characterisation of it as a Billy / Marvel type of relationship makes sense, as I think that's clearly where they originally wanted to take it.

But that probably collided head-on with the tropes that Lee felt were necessary to make a sellable comic in the 60s.
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I think my favorite story I've read so far is the introduction of Zarko the Tomorrow Man (quite possibly the only time-traveling world conqueror who is not Kang the Conqueror), who travels from the peaceful future of 2400 to the present day so he can steal the superior weaponry of the 1960s and thus take over the world. A task he succeeds at because there are literally no weapons whatsoever in his own era, so one bomb is all it takes.

Thor gets involved because he's letting the military shoot him with missiles to see what happens, when he notices the theft.
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He is not Kang the Conqueror yet. Give him time.
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:08 PM
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Watching the development of any Marvel character through the '60s and '70s stuff is fascinating. In both the Thor and FF stuff, I really got a sense of Lee and Kirby frantically spitballing and trying to stay ahead of a market that had suddenly thrust them into a leadership position.
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I think my favorite story I've read so far is the introduction of Zarko the Tomorrow Man (quite possibly the only time-traveling world conqueror who is not Kang the Conqueror), who travels from the peaceful future of 2400 to the present day so he can steal the superior weaponry of the 1960s and thus take over the world. A task he succeeds at because there are literally no weapons whatsoever in his own era, so one bomb is all it takes.
I feel like that's the origin of about ten LSH bad guys.

Speaking of, I've always wanted DC to tease that Time Trapper or Per Degaton or Chronos or someone is actually a Kang who got lost along the way.
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