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Old 07-23-2016, 12:12 AM
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I don't know shit about streams but HOLY FUCK SONIC MANIA LOOKS PERFECT.

Fuck the haters

This is my shit.
This shit looks fucking amazing is what it looks like.

Holy shit I mean just, holy shit.
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:51 AM
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I'm excited for Sonic Generations 2. My wife will probably want to play!
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Old 07-23-2016, 03:38 AM
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That does look exthrizzlating
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Old 07-23-2016, 05:09 AM
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Sonic the Hedgehog is an ex you remember having great times with when you started out together, then everything became toxic and brought out the worst in both of you. You occasionally see glimpses of the good times and want to reconcile, only to be faced with the harsh realities of things not being what they once were. A mirage of happiness in an oasis of shit.


I want to be excited for Sonic Mania.
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Old 07-23-2016, 05:13 AM
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Sonic the Hedgehog is an ex you remember having great times with when you started out together, then everything became toxic and brought out the worst in both of you. You occasionally see glimpses of the good times and want to reconcile, only to be faced with the harsh realities of things not being what they once were. A mirage of happiness in an oasis of shit.


I want to be excited for Sonic Mania.
Sonic Mania seems like the lobotomy you got after the relationship.
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Old 07-23-2016, 05:46 AM
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Okay so... yeah, I'm obviously buying this. Seeing Christian Whitehead's name grabbed me pretty much right away (seriously, go download Sonic CD if you haven't yet). And I like how the trailer opens with them blatantly agreeing that the last two decades of this series has been almost entirely garbage.

But.

The last half-decade has been a weird one for the Sonic Cycle. It started when Sonic Generations was better than any right to be. That game was a flawed masterpiece (you guys, they made a Sonic 2006 level FUN), and I came out of that thinking "holy shit.... they finally found the perfect formula for this franchise. All they have to do is give the boss battles a lighter touch and there it is. Sonic Generations 2."

No exaggeration, it was the first time in over ten years that I allowed myself to not be cynical. Here was a highly polished Sonic game that I could swear was made by a team of professionals that gave a shit... Sonic Cycle broken, right? They've finally got the perfect template down. This is the easiest tap-in putt they could ever dream of having. Now if they can just- *Lost World and Sonic Boom* - aaaand it's gone.

For fuck's sake, I said. They stared down that tap-in putt, grabbed that wood driver, and enthusiastically chopped that ball directly into a lake. The Sonic Cycle had become the Sonic Busted-Ass Whirligig. One of my first thoughts after seeing this new Mania trailer is that they'll probably follow it up with a game even worse than Sonic Boom, thus solidifying my Whirligig theory.

But for now? They've got me, goddammit. They've got me believing again.

HOLY SHIT SONIC GENERATIONS 2???? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
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Old 07-23-2016, 05:46 AM
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Sonic Mania. Looks like most of the mediocre 2D Sonic games we've seen in the past 10-15 years!

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Which Sonic game from the last 15 years does it look like? Any one will do.
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Old 07-23-2016, 06:20 AM
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Which Sonic game from the last 15 years does it look like? Any one will do.
All of the 2D ones.
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Old 07-23-2016, 06:44 AM
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HOLY REFERENCE BATMAN
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Old 07-23-2016, 06:58 AM
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All of the 2D ones.
I do not think you have actually been paying attention to what 2D Sonic games looked like over the past 10-15 years.
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Old 07-23-2016, 06:59 AM
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I am glad they are finally making what appear to be very good decisions with these two new games! I also like that Streets of Rage reference. Way past cool.
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:04 AM
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All of the 2D ones.
You are wrong
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Old 07-23-2016, 08:23 AM
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You are wrong
That's fine.

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Old 07-23-2016, 08:59 AM
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Sonic games always look good, until they don't. That's the nature of Sonic games. Both games receive a hearty "We'll see" from me.
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Old 07-23-2016, 09:05 AM
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Sonic Generations and Sonic Unleashed were pretty gorgeous games; I think they nailed the style and detail down really well in those. You could see a lot of texture on Sonic in Unleashed when the level started, which was really cool.
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Old 07-23-2016, 09:14 AM
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That's fine.
When it comes to Sonic, nothing will ever be fine.
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Old 07-23-2016, 09:17 AM
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When it comes to Sonic, nothing will ever be fine.
Now that's something about which we can agree.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:12 AM
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Mario never causes this kind of drama. He's such a good boy
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Old 07-23-2016, 12:19 PM
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Well the thing is, Sonic Mania is already a thing and a lot of people who like Sonic (like me) have it. What it is, is we're prepared to argue a lot more about Sonic than any other series. And it's mental because Sonic has been shit for like 15 years. There are maybe MAYBE twenty good Sonic games, total, out of maybe 200, 300, I don't know. And yet those good games work for me so absolutely that I see the Sonic Snark and I'm like, no, this cannot stand. And I'm wrong. I'm so drastically, dreadfully wrong.

You know a game I despise? Like, I viscerally dislike it. Sonic Adventure 2.

Do you know what that means? It means I have only repurchased it three times on different formats, as opposed to Sonic 1 which I'd estimate I own at least ten legitimate versions of. I have the Sonic 1 mobile game installed on three devices. I have the rom on my PSP. I have the 3D version on my 3DS and the Classic Collection version on my DS. It is no exaggeration to say that I am no less than ten seconds away from playing Sonic 1 at any given time.

That's Sonic Mania.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:40 PM
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Music's sounding pretty good.

https://youtu.be/NGR5fTO2oio
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Old 07-25-2016, 01:12 AM
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The Sonic CD influence is strong. Love it.
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Old 07-25-2016, 05:06 AM
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It's not Sonic Generations 2, guys. ;P

At least, that's what Iizuka said before the video ran (and elsewhere). Not a sequel, but something all-new.

Looking forward to Mania. It's like the Saturn Sonic game we never got.
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:36 AM
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I just want a game with the 3D Sonic style from Generations/Unleashed but with no other bits. Each time they did that, they had half the game be something else.

I don't want half a game of pure fucking speed, I want an entire game of pure fucking speed. In Unleashed, you had the warehog stuff, and in Generations you had 2D sonic but more platformer and mazey than normal 2D sonic.
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:45 AM
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2D Sonic has always been pretty platformer and mazey. And I'd argue that the ease of replaying specific stages in Generations actually made it easier to learn the speedier paths in the 2D stages.
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:50 AM
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Eh, most of Sonic 2 isn't that mazey. Once you hit Oil Ocean it turns into Maze Central, yeah, but that's the third to last set of stages.

Also, the idea is that I want to just go fast with platforming and not platforming with going fast.
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:21 AM
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I want the opposite of what Moon Orbit wants, Sega, if you're reading

The exact opposite okay

Flippancy aside have you played Sonic Rush? I'd say it's reasonably close to what you're asking for, all three of those games (Rush, Rush Adventure and Colours DS). Advance 2, as well, much of the time.
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:24 AM
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I'd be fine with two Sonic games being released: one for each niche.

I tihnk that's a good compromise.

also fuck the post timer so very, very much
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:27 AM
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Shit like I wouldn't play both

Once a Sonic fan always a Sonic fan

death is the only escape

Time Over
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:54 AM
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I want the opposite of what Moon Orbit wants, Sega, if you're reading

The exact opposite okay.
Yes, exactly. At least that's what Sonic Mania seems to be.
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:55 AM
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For the record, I have nothing against Sonic Mania.

I just want them to not forget the Sonic games more focused on pure speed as well.
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