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A new Star Wars movie every year until the sun goes cold
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:06 AM
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They've been doing that and it's been biting them in the ass.
I dunno, it's been working out pretty well for the Marvel franchises. Even if those directors ARE following the house style, they bring a lot more creativity to the table than the go-to nerds.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:07 AM
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A new Star Wars movie every year until the sun goes cold
And by then we'll have migrated to other star systems and we'll have a new Stat Wars every Standard Galactic Year.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:08 AM
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Disney has hired five white guys with less directing experience than JJ Abrams to direct Star Wars movies and replaced four of them.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:11 AM
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Has this actually been stated?
Nothing official, but reporting in entertainment media has suggested there would be a sizable gap in at least the official "episodes" after the trilogy ends, even if spin-off material continues.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:37 AM
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I dunno, it's been working out pretty well for the Marvel franchises. Even if those directors ARE following the house style, they bring a lot more creativity to the table than the go-to nerds.
Has it worked? Yet, I guess. I mean, Thor Ragnarok and Black Panther look great, but neither of them have come out yet. Marvel's other movies have been directed by if not necessarily "nerd media makers" but mostly by a combination of veteran Hollywood guys and nondescript newcomers.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:42 AM
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JJ Abrams is a step up from Colin Trevorrow.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:45 AM
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Disney has hired five white guys with less directing experience than JJ Abrams to direct Star Wars movies and replaced four of them.
Kennedy is a dead-hard brand manager, and I imagine that her methods will be studied for a long time to come. I think the real lesson here is that the studio system is coming back.

e: That is to say, as the resources needed to create major films concentrate into a handful of companies shepherding a tiny portfolio of global brands, the products themselves will again overshadow the people actually making them. I can only remember two of the directors who handled major marvel pictures, and I imagine that is on the high side of the norm.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:01 AM
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Last time I checked, the plan was to release a new Star Wars film every two years or so.

The pattern right now is saga film, "Star Wars story" film, saga film, "Star Wars story" film, etc. So we had TFA, then R1, then TLJ, then whatever they end up calling the Han Solo film, then Episode 9, and (according to the latest buzz) an Obi-wan film, etc.

But that doesn't mean the pattern will hold. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a series of one-shot "Star Wars story" movies before we see an Episode 10, provided there is an Episode 10.

And of course this only matters insofar as they can keep making All The Money from the franchise. As soon the public gets tired of SW, if the public gets tired of SW, you'll see them pull back a bit.

Also: More on JJ on Episode 9: https://www.polygon.com/2017/9/12/16...ctor-jj-abrams

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The other writer on the film is Chris Terrio, the Academy Award-winning screenwriter of Argo; he also co-wrote Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and worked on the upcoming Justice League.
Hmmmmmmmm.
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I really wish producers looked beyond "known nerd media makers" to direct their prominent nerd media enterprises, and gave actually good, albeit more artsy or independent filmmakers, a shot.
Rian Johnson, Colin Trevorrow, the Phil Lord/Chris Miller duo, Gareth Evans and Josh Trank all cut their teeth on indie productions and were only one project removed from that when hired (or considered) for Star Wars. So while they might be "known nerd media makers" by the time they got a Star Wars gig, they only got their big break just a film before.
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e: That is to say, as the resources needed to create major films concentrate into a handful of companies shepherding a tiny portfolio of global brands, the products themselves will again overshadow the people actually making them. I can only remember two of the directors who handled major marvel pictures, and I imagine that is on the high side of the norm.
Note that this is pretty much exactly how shit works at the Assassin's Creed/Call of Duty type level of the video game industry.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:21 AM
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Disney has hired five white guys with less directing experience than JJ Abrams to direct Star Wars movies and replaced four of them.
This doesn't include the sixth white guy who was fired and we don't even know what he was working on.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:34 AM
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Hmmmmmmmm.
I wouldn't hold the BvS script against any single person involved, other than probably Snyder. There were a lot of fingers in that pie. (I personally really enjoyed that movie and think that there was probably a really good script in there sometime before they started shooting and editing it.)
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:37 AM
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Kennedy is a dead-hard brand manager, and I imagine that her methods will be studied for a long time to come. I think the real lesson here is that the studio system is coming back.

e: That is to say, as the resources needed to create major films concentrate into a handful of companies shepherding a tiny portfolio of global brands, the products themselves will again overshadow the people actually making them. I can only remember two of the directors who handled major marvel pictures, and I imagine that is on the high side of the norm.
Good read. George would be spinning in his grave if he had one.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:48 AM
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I can only remember two of the directors who handled major marvel pictures, and I imagine that is on the high side of the norm.
I would take this challenge, but excuse me a sec

*takes swig from official Iron Man branded flask, slips it back into inside pocket of official Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. branded jacket* oh god better

Ahem but I think I may lie too outside of the norm to provide useful data
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:57 AM
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Even if you gave them a list of all the directors of Marvel movies so far, the average moviegoer would probably only recognize a couple.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:59 AM
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Remember when George hired Richard Marquand to direct Return of the Jedi and wound up having to step in so often he'd pretty much replaced Marquand by the time they were done?
Remember how we were just now arguing over whether Episode 7 is a rehash of Episode 4 in a broad thematic sense?

It's like poetry, it rhymes.
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:03 PM
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Hmmmmmmmm.
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Rian Johnson, Colin Trevorrow, the Phil Lord/Chris Miller duo, Gareth Evans and Josh Trank all cut their teeth on indie productions and were only one project removed from that when hired (or considered) for Star Wars. So while they might be "known nerd media makers" by the time they got a Star Wars gig, they only got their big break just a film before.
Yeah, I meant specifically JJ Abrams with that sentence.
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Remember when George hired Richard Marquand to direct Return of the Jedi and wound up having to step in so often he'd pretty much replaced Marquand by the time they were done?
Remember how we were just now arguing over whether Episode 7 is a rehash of Episode 4 in a broad thematic sense?
I hope Kennedy initially approached David Lynch
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:27 PM
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I'm personally waiting for David Cronenberg's Sarlaac: A Star Wars Body Horror
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:31 PM
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I hope Kennedy initially approached David Lynch John Waters.
"What do you think about Desperate Living in space with lightsabers?"

Later:

"Go home to your mother! Doesn't she ever watch you? Tell her this isn't some Jedi daycare center! Tell your mother I hate her! Tell your mother I hate you!"

"Boy, Luke sure has gotten feisty in his old age."
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Old 09-12-2017, 02:39 PM
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I dunno, it's been working out pretty well for the Marvel franchises. Even if those directors ARE following the house style, they bring a lot more creativity to the table than the go-to nerds.
Gunn's movies have a lot of personality in them. I wonder if it's allowed as Gotg is sort of outside the main narrative thrust.
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"What do you think about Desperate Living in space with lightsabers?"

Later:

"Go home to your mother! Doesn't she ever watch you? Tell her this isn't some Jedi daycare center! Tell your mother I hate her! Tell your mother I hate you!"

"Boy, Luke sure has gotten feisty in his old age."
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I'm personally waiting for David Cronenberg's Sarlaac: A Star Wars Body Horror
Joke's on you; he hasn't made body horror in 20 years!
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Least surprising news of the day.
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Yeah, that was going to happen regardless of director change.
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I don't know why VIII and IX were originally announced for the summer in the first place. Not only did TFA get a lot of mileage out of its holiday release, there are already 1-2 Marvel movies coming out each summer.
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Meanwhile Han Solo is still coming out this May.
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:35 PM
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Meanwhile Han Solo is still coming out this May.
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