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Old 01-12-2019, 04:03 PM
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Bumblebee was fine. Good, even?! Definitely a glimpse into the timeline where Michael Bay didn't get first dibs on adapting that franchise to make it trash. It was a very kid friendly movie for sure, with little actual consequences and violence. I do appreciate how minimal the male romantic interest ended up being. Fun fact: the movie was written by a woman, and it shows.
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Old 01-12-2019, 05:45 PM
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I watched Tombstone for the first time in nearly 15 years. That is such an absolute Murderer's Row of a cast, jeez, and not a bad scene in the whole movie.

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Old 01-12-2019, 06:38 PM
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Saw Ralph’s Amazing Adventure in the Land of Brands it was pretty good but controversial opinion ((it could have used less brands))
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:49 AM
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I have watched two parody movies from the mid 2000s in the past two days;

Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgandy is the sort of movie that works best if you just remember it being very funny and making no action to rewatch the film to confirm that. Because, despite some solid ad-libbing from Will Ferrell, it has not aged well at all.

Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story, on the other hand, is a movie I had never seen before and had me laughing uproariously throughout. It's a pitch-perfect (no pun intended) parody of every single music biopic ever made. Every inch of the movie is perfect.
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:54 AM
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Walk Hard is extremely good.
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:59 AM
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There are so many running jokes in that movie that land so hard every time
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:19 AM
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:53 AM
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:34 AM
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My friends talked Walk Hard up for a long long time before I got a chance to watch it. Surprisingly, it managed to live up to my lofty expectations.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:02 PM
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Biopic parody? There is no way this is as good as you people are saying. Parody films are so atrocious.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:04 PM
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Biopic parody? There is no way this is as good as you people are saying. Parody films are so atrocious.
I thought Walk Hard was dumb and not good.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:13 PM
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I register my polite but firm disagreement with the preceding two posts.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:41 PM
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Escape Room was pretty ok, and much better than the reviews let on. Concept is pretty dumb tho.

Aquaman was fanTASTIC. It’s so nice to see a comic book movie be unapologetic in its comicbookiness.
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:00 PM
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:38 PM
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Parody films are so atrocious.
Wait, what? A number of the all time greatest comedies and many cult classics are parodies.

Airplane!, Life of Brian, This Is Spinal Tap, Gremlins 2, MacGruber, and Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping, just off the top of my head.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:04 PM
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See also all of Mel Brooks's movies. Or if you want to be grumpy, Mel Brooks's movies up to about 1980 or so.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:15 PM
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Life of Brian a parody? Psshhhhh. That's just a comedy.

Now Spaceballs, that's a parody. And you know, it's ok. Not atrocious. Men in Tights? Pretty darn bad from what I saw.

I couldn't make it through more than 10 minutes of This is Spinal Tap.

MacGruber and Popstar I know nothing about, so I have no comment. Is Gremlins 2 a parody? I'm not sure if I've ever seen it, so, no comment.

But for any decent examples you can come up with, there are going to be as many bad ones that far far outweigh the merits of the genre.

edit: Young Frankenstein is good. I won't question that. But think of all the Scary Movies and Not Another Teen Movies and all the tripe and trash that Hollywood throws out because why bother with an original idea when you can take something popular and put a bunch of poop and cum jokes in it
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:25 PM
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There are good and bad examples of everything.

Walk Hard is great.

But especially the Beatles scene
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:26 PM
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I guess. I mean, you can point to the section of the genre that is made up of the offspring of Scary Movie, all of which are terrible.

But Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead and Galaxy Quest and Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein and Naked Gun.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:39 PM
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Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead aren't parodies though. They're just comedies.

And they're fantastic. Especially Hot Fuzz, one of my favorites of any genre.

edit: I can see this will quickly devolve into a "you dumb" "no you dumb" argument. We should define terms.

I don't consider something that makes reference to another genre as a parody of that genre. Shaun of the Dead makes reference to zombie stuff, but it's just telling its own funny, sad story and also there are zombies. The only "parody" part of that film that comes to mind is when the group of people runs into another group of people that has mirror images of the characters. Also that bit is pretty funny.

What I consider parody is stuff that is like, a straight up obvious reference to something else, like a specific film or show or whatever, and then just makes it sssssuuuuuuuupppppppeeeerrrr silly. Or in the case of Scary Movie and its progeny, raunchy and puerile. And Scary Movie and its ilk and definitely parodies. They go "hey remember this scene from that one movie? Now it's goofy and gross!"

Hot Fuzz makes reference to the mystery, thriller, and action genres, but it's an homage. Oh sure it's funny, but I don't think it's a parody.

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Old 01-17-2019, 06:54 PM
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I love Hot Fuzz as well. But Hot Fuzz is a parody. It is a parody of buddy cop movies. Like, explicitly so. The first half calls out all the elements of the buddy cop action movie and pretends it is not going to do them, then the second half does all of them. Often with deliberate call backs to specific movies. That is what parody is, taking the style or language of one kind of art and imitating it for satirical purposes.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:58 PM
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Ehhhhh I still don't think it's parody. I think Hot Fuzz is more homage and satire. I mean yes, it does reference the one scene from Point Break, explicitly. No question there. But if it is continuously making references to other scenes from movies, and then doing a goofy, dumb take on them, I totally missed those references.

edit: and yeah, the line between parody and satire may be more fuzzy (unintentional but now completely self-aware pun) than I'm willing to admit right now. Sorry, been a frustrating day.
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Old 01-17-2019, 08:14 PM
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I think the problem is that you have construed "the most lowbrow possible genre parody" (a very narrow slice of parodies) with the broader genre of "parody."

Returning to the original discussion rather than the semantic debate, Walk Hard is a parody in the way that Life of Brian, Airplane!, and Hot Fuzz are parodies, not a lowest common denominator genre parody in the style of Scary Movie 6 or whatever.

Setting aside the question of whether or not Walk Hard is good or bad, your feelings about movies like Scary Movie 6, etc. are unlikely to be strongly correlated with your feelings about Walk Hard. Both are parodies, but of very different types.
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Old 01-17-2019, 08:21 PM
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What I consider parody is stuff that is like, a straight up obvious reference to something else, like a specific film or show or whatever, and then just makes it sssssuuuuuuuupppppppeeeerrrr silly. Or in the case of Scary Movie and its progeny, raunchy and puerile. And Scary Movie and its ilk and definitely parodies. They go "hey remember this scene from that one movie? Now it's goofy and gross!"
"My definition of parody is parody that specifically sucks"

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Old 01-17-2019, 08:26 PM
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Yeah yeah. I get it.
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Old 01-17-2019, 08:35 PM
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I mean really the biggest difference between Airplane! and any given Scary Movie equivalent is just... quality of the comedy and execution. See also: Hot Shots, Mafia, Baseketball.
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Men in Tights? Pretty darn bad from what I saw.
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Walk Hard is great.

But especially the Beatles scene
That scene floors me, the way they manage to find four completely different terrible Liverpool accents.

I second Popstar, which is a parody of a specific Justin Bieber documentary and is hilarious and super-rewatchable. I personally think it's about as funny as Spinal Tap.
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Old 01-18-2019, 08:39 AM
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That scene floors me, the way they manage to find four completely different terrible Liverpool accents.
Jack Blacks Liverpool accent is so bad it seamlessly transitions into a terrible Scottish and also atrocious Irish accent
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Old 01-18-2019, 08:41 AM
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@Yangus: Well I haven’t seen some of the “classic” parodies, or at least not since I was a kid, so my perception is colored a lot by the style of parody that has been with us ever since Scary Movie. Not that we didn’t have duds before that in the ‘90s such as Loaded Weapon 1. I may have found it funny when I was a dumb kid, but probably wouldn’t think it’s so good now.

Anyway, sorry for all my oafish responses, I’ll stop here.
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