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Old 12-02-2017, 10:14 AM
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I even thought of nameless s1 tng engineer before this ep. show keeps getting better.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:20 AM
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Also next ep wraps up s1. Ep 13 been moved to s2
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:14 PM
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Also it turns out I have read Flatland, so that was a neat little reference. The amount of 20th Century reference humor on the show is usually a little off-putting, but that one's obscure and neat enough that it works. (Also, uh, I guess it's technically a 19th Century reference.)
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:23 PM
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As AV pointed out, I like how they don't let us forget the Orville is not meant to go toe to toe with enemy vessels.
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Old 12-02-2017, 04:57 PM
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As AV pointed out, I like how they don't let us forget the Orville is not meant to go toe to toe with enemy vessels.
It's honestly the way Voyager should have been, but the writers of that show could never get out of writing paradigm for TNG.
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:21 PM
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Also it turns out I have read Flatland, so that was a neat little reference. The amount of 20th Century reference humor on the show is usually a little off-putting, but that one's obscure and neat enough that it works. (Also, uh, I guess it's technically a 19th Century reference.)
To be fair: tng (and tos movies) was mostly 19th century references. But air of “culture” and “civilization”. Tyranny of good taste.

I like how orville sucked the air out of that when Mercer repeatedly misattributed Finn’s quote.
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Old 12-08-2017, 07:33 PM
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Damn, Seth Macfarlane of all people making me feel things, what kind of weird mirror universe is this. Though a lot of credit goes to Adrianne Palicki really selling it.
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Old 12-20-2017, 07:39 PM
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I almost didn't make it five minutes - now I've watched five episodes. It's pretty rough at times but sometimes I think it could become my favorite series of Star Trek. And it really is Star Trek in all but name - I'm not sure how they're getting away with it, legally? There are way more similarities than differences. Even the title sequence is very Trek (and good as such things go); I keep expecting something funny (or 'funny') to happen, but I haven't noticed any attempts at humor in it.

Not sure how I feel about the back end, but I mostly love the eponymous ship. Is that an actual window on the bridge, or just a very-wide-screen viewscreen? Either way, it's an improvement over Starfleet designs.

Aside from the big jokes usually falling flat, and the sheer abundance of references to modern Western Earth culture, I do have two consistent complaints. They're not big things, but they just keep coming up. First, they play really fast and loose with science. Not just tossing some obscure point out the window because rigid adherence to real science interferes with the story, but things that just... sound sciency, I guess, but are actually pretty far out there. The secret of Alara's super-strength, for example, is right out of superhero comics. Second is that many events seem a little too convenient.

Favorite funny bits so far (that I can remember offhand): a spaceship destroyed by a fast-growing giant sequoia, the elevator ride, Isaac's prank.

Final thought - this exchange from the pilot could almost be meta-commentary:
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Ed MercerSETH MACFARLANE: What are you doing on the Orville?

Dr. Claire FinnKASIDY YATES FROM DS9: I always request my transfers based on where I think I'm needed. I feel more stimulated that way.

Ed MercerSETH MACFARLANE: So what made your request this ship?

Dr. Claire FinnKASIDY YATES FROM DS9: Well, this is your first command, and I think you could use my help.
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Old 12-20-2017, 08:41 PM
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Glad you're enjoying the show! My entiments almost exactly echo yours.
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First, they play really fast and loose with science. Not just tossing some obscure point out the window because rigid adherence to real science interferes with the story, but things that just... sound sciency, I guess, but are actually pretty far out there. The secret of Alara's super-strength, for example, is right out of superhero comics.
Star Trek has always thrived on poorly explained, scientifically impossible technobabble to explain away events. Always. It's something that I'm sure Seth MacFarlane is keenly aware of and is purposefully emulating.

As for Alara's super-strength, that's literally the exact same explanation and situation for Spock/Vulcans, and is clearly an homage.
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:48 AM
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Only difference is:Star Trek has always thrived on poorly explained, scientifically impossible technobabble to explain away events. Always. It's something that I'm sure Seth MacFarlane is keenly aware of and is purposefully emulating.
Technobabble is fine when it's future tech (and not used to Voyager levels), because maybe that thing will be a real thing in the future - who knows? What's not fine is when shows get modern tech/known science wrong (again, Voyager, notably with every single computer-related thing), and though I forget exactly what set me off about The Orville I'm certain it was the latter.

After a few episodes that were decent but didn't quite live up to their potential, and one that I'd say is actually bad, "Firestorm" reminded me of everything I loved about the show. It really highlights how gorgeous the ship can be; there is some serious eye candy in this one. I like that it's not too serious, but this episode also highlights how The Orville is definitely at its best when the humor is used sparingly and is character-centric. Everything Bortus was pure gold, andSpace-mad Doctor Finn and Evil Isaac were both great.

It's also another episode of Mercer being a surprisingly good captain - and of people just generally talking things out in a way that it seems Star Trek gradually did less and less, until at times dialogue is nothing but a vehicle for events.

Probably the best episode so far.
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Just started watching the show, and I've really enjoyed it so far.

Though of all the ways it aesthetically apes Trek, the music does it to almost a fault. I guess that I don't mind it, especially since, on top of the baseline of 90s Trek scoring, there's been a couple of riffs on Horner's Wrath of Khan soundtrack, and I definitely got a bit of charge when they riffed on Goldsmith's V'ger theme for episode 4.
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S2 SDCC trailer:



I really liked this trailer. It hits a balance between its impulse for comedy and its need to be nuTNG a lot better than last season. I really hope this show can find its stride and hit that balance well. And maybe this season they'll hire a few writers who can make some episodes that extend beyond recycling Star Trek plots and actually come up with a few original scenarios themselves.
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The Orville is back on!

Also: Seth is 45
Year 1 of TNG Patrick Stewart was 47
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The Orville is back on!
Indeed! First episode back was both amazing and terrible at the same time.
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Old 01-01-2019, 04:44 PM
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Indeed! First episode back was both amazing and terrible at the same time.
It was ok? I guess Jason Alexander was the rhino bartender.

Isaac and Claire are MVP
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Old 01-01-2019, 05:00 PM
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I am amused that Orville is following the great TNG tradition of creating a big cast and then not really knowing what to do with them. Claire has mostly only existed to tell space-mom stories and isn't really allowed to do much interesting besides that. I'm not really sure what Isaac does on the ship??? Alara exists to be in over her head, but this episode lampshaded how that's fairly redundant when the main character is exactly the same. First Officer Lady exists to be the ex girlfriend but hadn't gotten to do much interesting things on her own besides that one time she accidentally a religion and felt bad about it. They gave one of the two jokers an engineering job to mirror Geordi, but both of them don't do much besides be the vehicle for the show's toilet humor.
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Old 01-01-2019, 05:40 PM
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My wife just started watching this and I was expecting it to be a FAMILY GUY parody of Star Trek.

But

It's just Star Trek.

100% straight up Star Trek.

I guess MAYBE someone made a "Joke" at one point but I must have missed it.
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IDK why I feel cheated, I fuckin hate family guy.
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Welllllp. That episode was intensely uncomfortable for entirely personal reasons. Not quite the escapism I was looking for tonight. Jesus.
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Old 01-04-2019, 03:38 AM
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Tonight’s Orville was actually... I think I liked it? A lot??? Orville is doing a better job of hiding how it rips off Star Trek, which is all I can ask from them.

Tonight’s episode was about marital dysfunction brought on by mental health issues and a lack of communication, facilitated by addictive holodeck use. It’s the same basic formula as Voyager S5E03: “Extreme Risk” (A really good episode, btw) but disguised far more cleverly than most of last season’s.

Also Bortus might be the best character on the show.
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Aw man, I guess they lost the actress playing Alara to another show or something? I loved her. I suppose I'm glad she got a send-off episode instead of just disappearing between seasons or something.
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That ep had both Phlox and The Doctor unreal. I also like that the Union navy (or w/e) was unequivocally refered to as the military. Also severe gravity violence
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Aw man, I guess they lost the actress playing Alara to another show or something? I loved her. I suppose I'm glad she got a send-off episode instead of just disappearing between seasons or something.
Well there's a reason that happened. The supposed reason is that her and Seth Broke up, and thus she was written off the show. Apparently the cast was pretty icked out by what was going on too.
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Well there's a reason that happened. The supposed reason is that her and Seth Broke up, and thus she was written off the show. Apparently the cast was pretty icked out by what was going on too.
Link?
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Old 01-17-2019, 08:25 PM
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Huhhh. Welp. I suppose how icky that is depends on whether he wrote her off because he's petty, or she asked to leave because she wanted some distance. Or other possible scenarios. I'm not interested enough in celebrity gossip to go digging.

Anyway, in other news, I'm dumb and keep watching this show even though the relationshippy stuff keeps making my cry because I'm a *stupidly* easy mark in my current state of mind.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:32 AM
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Not done watching new ep, BUT:

The woman’s fake human surname was Tyler. Hehe
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Anyone seen the latest ep? This show is really crushing it.
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:57 PM
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I think the show has been pretty up and down this season. Some of the ideas they've explored have been great. Others have been pretty severe missteps or kinda embarrassing. Alara going home was an amazing episode. So was Bortus's porn-addiction. But others I walked away from the episodes not feeling great about, for reasons I can't fully articulate. Bortus's ex-boyfriend episode was a messy episode that didn't fully earn what it was trying to do. I actively disagree with just about everything the First Contact episode did. And the entire storyline of Dr Finn hooking up with Isaac has just been... weird. The emotional aspect of this last episode centering around Isaac/Dr. Finn fell pretty flat for me. And the meta plot part following Isaac's species wasn't that exciting because it's played pretty straight and I saw it coming from a mile away. The only thing I'm surprised about is that they used this card this early in the show, I figured it would have been a trump card that they held off on using until much later.

My assumption is that this whole thing will either be resolved by:
1) Dr. Finn and her kids will make an emotional appeal and get Isaac to switch sides and sabotage the baddie fleet

2) The baddies will get logic'd into standing down and realizing human beans are not a threat to them and that Dr. Finn + the kids will help them realize coexistence is possible.


Option two is what I'm hoping for, even if it's a bit predictable and uninteresting. I fear the show will try for option 1 though, and I'm not confident the show will do the right thing and go for option 2.
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I honestly haven't caught more than the first episode this season just because its been on against Brooklyn nine-nine and The Good Place. I'm apparently an old person who can't be bothered to figure out this whole streaming thing.
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Streaming has admittedly become increasingly obtuse as the digital space for this has splintered into a dozen different services, the rate at which shows are added and removed from catalogs has become a Byzantine nightmare, and the platforms all these services have apps for vary wildly. But if you’ve got a cable tv subscription, try out the on demand features? Shows like this will very often be available to watch on demand on your cable/satellite box.
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