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Old 12-06-2013, 10:24 AM
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Everything else aside, tell me the middle panel of the one that's still up currently isn't amazing
Gabe is just standing there. What is amazing about that?
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:55 AM
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The one before it, then, PA is terrible about their updating schedule, too
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:27 AM
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PAX and to a lesser extent Blizzcon benefit from the cultural meme that travel must be to a Thing

I see it a lot with my circle of friends, where everyone will descend on an event then spend the entire week hanging out in their hotel rooms or at the beach. The event becomes a convenient excuse to drop a couple grand on seeing people you miss.

E: possibly an overreaction to seeing my white friends use their limited vacation time as a way to see people they hate on holidays they don't celebrate
despite what tumblr tells us, the world isn't full of introverts, and some of us really relish the opportunity to spend meaningful face to face time with people we are close with. PAX affords that opportunity, and for that i'm grateful.

(of course, talcon does too, but the more the merrier)
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:13 PM
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I think his point is that if you want to spend time with people and don't care about the convention, then why pay for the convention when you can just spend time with people somewhere else for maybe cheaper.

Not sure where the introvert rant even comes into this.
Exactly. Back in the day my friends and I would go out of our way to spend a long weekend at Otakon every year, until one year we realized the convention was more of a hassle than anything else and we were better off just going anywhere and doing anything

Suddenly the calendar was a lot more open and we didn't have to deal with reeking, unsocialized nerds in the tens of thousands

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PAX affords that opportunity, and for that i'm grateful
is wrong. Money and time to devote to travel gives the opportunity.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:16 PM
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The one before it, then, PA is terrible about their updating schedule, too
schedule?
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:36 PM
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I think his point is that if you want to spend time with people and don't care about the convention, then why pay for the convention when you can just spend time with people somewhere else for maybe cheaper.
Because they have fun at the convention too? That that was the impression I got from the PAX goers at least.

I mean, it's not as if BEAT didn't enjoy creating his character with the help of a Wizard in the Barkley Shut up and Jam Gaiden tent.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:44 PM
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I think his point is that if you want to spend time with people and don't care about the convention, then why pay for the convention when you can just spend time with people somewhere else for maybe cheaper.
Maybe because they also want to go to a convention?
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:45 PM
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Maybe because they also want to go to a convention?
Now you just talking crazy
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:09 PM
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Yeah, that's where I'm getting to be. I like seeing my nerd friends, but PAX is gradually becoming less and less important to the experience. It's possible that next year we'll just organize something at a different time in a different place, avoid the registration-day frenzy and maybe save some money in the process.

I would miss seeing all the indie game exhibitors at PAX, though. Is there another venue where they all gather like that that is open to the public?
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:15 PM
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Because they have fun at the convention too? That that was the impression I got from the PAX goers at least.

I mean, it's not as if BEAT didn't enjoy creating his character with the help of a Wizard in the Barkley Shut up and Jam Gaiden tent.
This is intenesly true. I enjoy both
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:23 PM
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The strip is still funny more often than not and the art is good, but they've gotten significantly worse at camouflaging the product placement and advertorial content.
*casually leans against door frame* Watching some Twitch?
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:26 PM
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I would miss seeing all the indie game exhibitors at PAX, though. Is there another venue where they all gather like that that is open to the public?
Well, whaddaya know!
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:56 PM
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*casually leans against door frame* Watching some Twitch?
Woo I can barely keep up with all the fresh HD content streamed live from other gamers in real time, what with these speedy Amazon shipments coming in nonstop! UH OH MY COCK IS OUT WHAT
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:08 PM
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Hey good thing we have this thing now!

Penny Arcade shuts down PATV and PAR!

Nothing like looking for a job right before the holidays!
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:47 PM
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Hey good thing we have this thing now!

Penny Arcade shuts down PATV and PAR!

Nothing like looking for a job right before the holidays!
perhaps they didnt want to pay xmas bonus to them,
between the guy they are hiring (with low salary) getting rid of patv and par
are they doing fine? are they having money troubles?


anyway
thats bad I feel sorry for them, I will not miss Ben Kuchera,
never liked penny arcade report since it bashed kotaku and other gaming sites
(and still linked their articles )

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Old 12-06-2013, 06:55 PM
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This is actually p smart because they diluted the brand and I have doubts they ever brought in the revenue needed to justify moving into those media.

And giving Mike and Jerry fuckoff big creative projects that will keep them too busy to say idiotic shit or throw their weight around on actual business decisions is the kind of thing that happens all the time when founders become liabilities.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:50 PM
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It's kinda funny that he lists 8 different things they can now focus on after shutting down those 2 things.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:07 PM
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It's kinda funny that he lists 8 different things they can now focus on after shutting down those 2 things.
Note that zero of those new things will require the rest of the business end of PA to do anything but clap with frozen smiles on their faces for 90% of development
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Old 12-07-2013, 01:09 AM
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Smart choice, I'm glad it happened, the comic has little interest to me any longer but I'm interested in seeing what they come up with now that they can apparently devote more resources to it.

I like conventions too 8)
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:08 AM
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Not seeing much words tossed around about Robert Khoooooo.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:02 AM
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Not seeing much words tossed around about Robert Khoooooo.
Khoo gambled on a brand extension, possibly fueled by outside capital, and it failed. Tune in next week when they refocus on core business and lean processes to maximize their shareholder return
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:12 AM
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He seems like he should be working for a Silicon Valley startup instead for a company based around a three-panel webcomic.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:32 AM
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Expect he would be if he hadn't tripped over a goldmine in PA. Running a startup, he's a slave to the VC and the whole thing probably ends in tears. Owning a piece of PA (I assume he has a stake in the enterprise, how could he not) he's richer than shit and set for life if he ever decides he's bored of a career in nerd-wrangling.

The more I think about it the more I suspect, as AV notes, that PAR and PATV were run with somebody else's money.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:36 AM
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Wow. I was really enjoying Checkpoint, too.

Hmm. Seems like there's less and less reason to visit PA these days.
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:56 AM
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Unwarranted, baseless speculation time!

The programmer/developer/sysadmin/IT manager guy is leaving because, with PA cutting back on TV and Report, his duties maintaining the PA IT Machine would have been cut down along with his salary. Thus, he's trotting off to greener pastures.
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:25 AM
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He seems like he should be working for a Silicon Valley startup instead for a company based around a three-panel webcomic.
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Expect he would be if he hadn't tripped over a goldmine in PA. Running a startup, he's a slave to the VC and the whole thing probably ends in tears. Owning a piece of PA (I assume he has a stake in the enterprise, how could he not) he's richer than shit and set for life if he ever decides he's bored of a career in nerd-wrangling.
Agreedo w Raider

Foster is a good program regionally but if you have the choice between being king shit at a money factory like PA and laying your dick on the chopping block by competing with Stanford and MIT grads (and now that the IB gold rush is over Harvard and Wharton too) in the bay area, well

I think I said this on IRC, but: It's not like Khoo is some once-in-a-generation evil genius deadset on turning PA into his personal media empire. Anyone who spent two years with Deloitte or another management shop would have similar success
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:09 PM
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Yeh. Like I say, he tripped and fell into a market that was ripe for exploitation and while groping about in a concussed haze laid hands on a brand tailor-made to exploit it. (This is not exactly giving him enough credit but I hope you take my general meaning.)

Looking back, it occurs to me that the first brand that stumbled on the potential of organizing gamers into a cult following was probably Die Hard Game Fan. it is interesting to wonder what that could have become if Dave Halverson weren't so much more idiot than savant and the operation had remained stable enough to survive into the PS2/Xbox generation. Who can say.
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:19 PM
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On PA shutdowns and taking Tycho at his word: why would he start obfuscating facts in order to save face now when he lets mike type and publish all the things he does
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:21 PM
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I dunno, it makes sense to me that he would do his best to keep control over everything he is able to control, and that that category would not encompass the shit comes out of Gabe's yap.

it occurs to me that this would be a shortsighted strategy, though; if he were to publicly oppose and feud with Gabe on some issue it would be the fuckin megapowers explode of internet nerddom and draw traffic for the ages.
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:30 PM
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things like the Pins or The New Kid or Daughters of the Eyrewood or Thornwatch or The Lookouts or Automata deserve every ounce of our resources
...does anyone actually like these things?

Okay, the Pins I get. They're exploiting nerds' weakness for limited edition collectables like Steam trading cards, etc.

But I find pretty much all of PA's attempts at long for storytelling to be completely unreadable garbage with panel layouts that just make no sense. I guess they are all highly marketable though, especially if they hired someone else to draw/animate them to make them intelligible...
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