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Old 11-27-2018, 11:59 PM
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they've been threatening to pull that trigger for nearly 20 years, and the madmen finally did it
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:20 AM
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I propose a motion to change the thread title to "Nobody Told Me Netflix Was Not So Great"
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:07 AM
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Eva is a show in drastic need of an editor
Speaking of "in drastic need of an editor," catching up with the news a day or so late. And WAOW. What an unspeakably awful trailer to announce this. What are those awful drums? How can Netflix be so fucking bad at everything they do and still make money? It's really really really easy to make a hype trailer for EVA. Some random person on the internet fixed it in like a few seconds flat:




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The internet today:
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Old 11-28-2018, 02:48 AM
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But then!


Carmen Sandiego!
AND she recovers artifacts stolen by colonialists!

Nobody Told Me Netflix Was errr... Una De Cal Y Una De Arena?
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:15 AM
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JFC, now theyíre making Carmen Sandiego into Lupin III 😒
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:32 AM
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Speaking of "in drastic need of an editor," catching up with the news a day or so late. And WAOW. What an unspeakably awful trailer to announce this. What are those awful drums? How can Netflix be so fucking bad at everything they do and still make money?
Easy. They already have buy-in from us nerds, so they had to make a trailer to appeal to boring white people. So here's some generic "intense" music and shots of crazy shit. Also it might be some licensing thing, you never know.

Also I'm totally here for Gina Rodriguez as female red Lupin the III
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:34 AM
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JFC, now theyíre making Carmen Sandiego into Lupin III 😒
She was always kind of Lupin the 3rd, just viewed through the lens of being the antagonist in a line of edutainment products.

As for Bebop, screw it why not try it? Worse case scenario it sucks in a boring, unfun way and we go back to watching the Anime. It might wind up being actually good, or at least hilariously bad.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:02 AM
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I'm all for Carmen Sandiego stealing from colonialists but that blurb makes it sound like she's just stealing from a criminal syndicate. Have her lead V.I.L.E. and steal from governments!

I'm sure it'll be good fun, though.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:16 AM
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I'm not sure how you can transfer what's appealing about Bebop to live action.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:34 AM
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I'm not sure how you can transfer what's appealing about Bebop to live action.
Conversely, I canít think of anything that made Bebop so appealing that was dependant on it being animated.

It looking amazing was a very nice perk, mind.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:39 AM
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"What if Lupin, but without all the gross baggage" sounds like a great pitch.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:52 AM
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The Evangelion news just amuses me because silly Evangelion Toastyfrog stuff is the first stuff related to Talking Time I ever saw, ages and ages ago.

I probably won't watch it on Netflix since I've had it all on DVD forever, but still...

(I have a DVD signed by Shinji, one signed by Asuka, and one by Gendo... Still need that Rei.)
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:31 AM
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Conversely, I canít think of anything that made Bebop so appealing that was dependant on it being animated.

It looking amazing was a very nice perk, mind.
Yeah, it has a really fun and creative world and awesome music, plus each episode is a different genre. All of that should transfer to live action pretty well. Now, if they do a good job with it or not is a completely different question. I'm hesitant just because there are so many bad remakes.
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Old 11-28-2018, 09:23 AM
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About the only advantage animated Bop would have over live-action is that the SFX/CGI budget for the latter will be through the roof, and, well, animation gives you full control over animal behavior and body language that reduces the need for actual acting (particularly exaggerated facial expressions, or Ed's... Edness). I don't know if Netflix would make Ein fully CGI, or if its stable of actors has the chops to convey the same personalities, but I do know that, in the end, the live-action show will live or die by its musical score.
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Old 11-28-2018, 09:34 AM
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If the musical score changes from the animated version, what is the goddamned point? I mean, judging by this thread and twitter I am on the high side of being interested in a live action Cowboy Bebop, but I can't imagine a reason to make significant changes to the music.
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:23 AM
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You can make a good genre-bridging sci-fi action series, I just think what's good about Bebop is the style and animation and music and those are the things that would probably be changing the most.
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:43 AM
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My thought is that we have the original and it its pretty much perfect. With a live action version at best we get an interesting interpretation of the show that keeps the tone and style; at worst we get something terrible that is quickly forgotten and does nothing to make the original less enjoyable.

If we get a sci fi show with a similar tone to Cowboy Bebop I'll be at least partly satisfied.

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Old 11-28-2018, 11:10 AM
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Man I didn't even think about how much I would absolutely detest Ed if she had a real human person face.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:12 AM
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I'm confident this will be a success. If Death Note has taught me anything, it's that Netflix has its finger firmly on the pulse of what makes anime good
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:28 PM
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I'm confident this will be a success. If Death Note has taught me anything, it's that Netflix has its finger firmly on the pulse of what makes anime good
Willem DaFoe is Ed Wong
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:52 PM
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I propose a motion to change the thread title to "Somebody Once Told Me That Netflix Was Not The Sharpest Tool in the Shed"
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:18 PM
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The thing about a live action Bebop is that we already got one. It was called Firefly. Which is probably a best case scenario for this show. And that doesn't give me a lot of hope since I'm in the minority that thinks Firefly wasn't very good. But at least Firefly had the decency to try and file the serial numbers off and be its own show some of the time.

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probably won't watch it on Netflix since I've had it all on DVD forever, but still...
You should actually consider watching it on Netflix. NGE has a really clean and beautiful bluray remaster which I assume Netflix will be using for their stream. It's a really good watch in HD. People should watch it in HD.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:03 PM
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Firefly and Bebop have never really felt that similar to me.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:11 PM
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So is Keanu still in this or...
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:15 PM
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Space cowboys
Hunting bounties/doing odd-jobs, living hand-to-mouth
Multicultural mishmash
Vague post-apocalypse dystopia
Intensely corrupt government
Jaded, sarcastic, heart-of-gold MC with a dark past
Strong sexual tension with the femme fatale that doesn't know why they even stick around
Fly around on a rust bucket
Main comrade in arms is overly strict former police/military
Eccentric plot device kid

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Old 11-28-2018, 07:20 PM
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Huh. I hadn't thought of that before. It almost sounds like they may be influenced by some of the same genres.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:40 PM
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Yep, even when Firefly was new, people were already pointing out how similar it was to Bebop, and debates about whether the former was directly influenced by the latter were a daily occurrence. What Bebop has over Firefly is its genre style (and how well it adapts to anything from madcap comedy to the bleakest noir without missing a beat, whereas Firefly, like Trigun, stuck to just the one genre), and, well, the music, which contributed heavily to the narrative beyond simply providing an atmosphere.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:41 PM
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If they had been developed at the same time independently I'd be inclined to agree with you, or by people who had no history of ever getting inspiration from Japanese things. But it doesn't strike me as particularly likely that Cowboy Bebop aired on American TVs to rave critical review, and then a year or so later, Joss Whedon & Co just happened to come up with all of the same ideas for their show.
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Old 11-28-2018, 09:58 PM
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Itís my understanding that Cowboy Bebop was originally aired in Japan on a broadcast TV network out of order for a handful of episodes before being prematurely canned, only to later achieve cult status from its full run on a satellite TV network and eventual theatrical release. Firefly even ripped off its pathway to nerd culture popularity from Bebop!

Of course I kid. Itís not like Firefly outright copied scenes almost down to the line from Cowboy Bebop or anything. *cough*Outlaw Star*cough*

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Old 11-28-2018, 10:19 PM
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Willem DaFoe is Ed Wong
Willem DaFoe as Pierrot the Fool is kinda appealing though

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Firefly and Bebop have never really felt that similar to me.
+1, I liked Firefly well enough but I never really got the same vibe from it. It's...kinda similar, but I think Bebop does the genre bending thing much much better. Firefly feels more unified in it's approach.
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