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Old 10-11-2017, 02:18 PM
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Say what you will about Claremont, at least you could distinguish the characters' voices from one another.
I think Claremont's actually pretty underrated. Much like the Lee/Kirby FF's or the Lee/Ditko/Romita Spider Mans, Claremont's run of X-Men is sort of the only one that really matters, in that everything that came afterwards was derivative of those ideas and character relationships he developed.

Also, his own weird tics and obsessions made him a perfect bronze age successor to Stan Lee's attempts at fusing romantic drama and costumed action.
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:09 PM
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In the X-Men's 4th annual, Wolverine gives Nightcrawler a giant framed headshot of himself in costume.

Anyway, I'm up to the New Mutants now in my readthrough of X-Men from the beginning. I actually read (most of?) Claremont's New Mutants when I was young, (never read his X-Men before) and I'm looking forward to revisiting it. Really enjoyed the Magik miniseries.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:10 PM
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Hey, maybe it's a painting.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:13 PM
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But really, who gives someone a polka-dot shirt with a striped tie for their birthday?
I bet it was Cyclops.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:20 PM
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In the X-Men's 4th annual, Wolverine gives Nightcrawler a giant framed headshot of himself in costume.
Say what you will, but how many people have seen Wolvie deliver a perfect DC Comics-style wholesome smile, let alone have a framed version of it?

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But really, who gives someone a polka-dot shirt with a striped tie for their birthday?
I bet it was Cyclops.
Damn, your cleverly hidden white text beat me to the answer.
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:52 PM
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They actually got Actual Jim Davis to contribute some content to the guest art featured in an unspecified (probably imminent) issue of Unbeatable Squirrel Girl.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:01 PM
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Love it. Always a thrill to see JD~
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Well, I just came across another drumstick in the canon.

Karma's fat, therefore evil and much larger than her drumstick than Wolverine is, which further compounds her villainy.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:07 PM
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They actually got Actual Jim Davis to contribute some content to the guest art featured in an unspecified (probably imminent) issue of Unbeatable Squirrel Girl.
This is unbelievably epic.
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:45 PM
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I am stoked for the Galactus thing.
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:49 PM
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Karma's fat, therefore evil and much larger than her drumstick than Wolverine is, which further compounds her villainy.
Karma was such a wasted character. I guess they had to get rid of her, because she was too powerful against anything that wasn't a robot?
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:38 PM
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Karma's fat, therefore evil and much larger than her drumstick than Wolverine is, which further compounds her villainy.
Wait a tick, I thought Karma was a founding member of the New Mutants. Petite Vietnamese girl? Standard array of psychic powers? No?
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:40 PM
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Wait a tick, I thought Karma was a founding member of the New Mutants. Petite Vietnamese girl? Standard array of psychic powers? No?
Briefly, until a very questionable Shadow King storyline. She loses the weight during a trip to Asgard, but isn't really around all that much after that. Karma was really underused.



(Less importantly and more of a nerd triva thing, her powers are mostly laser focused on possessing/controlling people, with a dash of other telepathic stuff on the side. You can kind of understand the urge to quickly write her out, because her powers break a lot of stories...)

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Old 10-22-2017, 05:22 AM
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Karma was such a wasted character. I guess they had to get rid of her, because she was too powerful against anything that wasn't a robot?
Magik’s way more powerful, but she’s also a more engaging character. Karma just had a less compelling gimmick/look/phonetic accent/personality than the other characters to whoever was writing both times she was written out. (haven’t gotten to the second time yet; I assume in Simonson’s run)

When she first appeared, her possession power was supposed to be v. good, but normal telepaths gained such power creep that she just seems like a shitty telepath. (bad telepaths are still powerful things imo) At this point, (issue 53 or so) Karma gets her possession victims’ knowledge, too, but she still has to possess them first.
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Old 10-22-2017, 09:16 AM
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Magik’s way more powerful, but she’s also a more engaging character. Karma just had a less compelling gimmick/look/phonetic accent/personality than the other characters to whoever was writing both times she was written out. (haven’t gotten to the second time yet; I assume in Simonson’s run)

When she first appeared, her possession power was supposed to be v. good, but normal telepaths gained such power creep that she just seems like a shitty telepath. (bad telepaths are still powerful things imo) At this point, (issue 53 or so) Karma gets her possession victims’ knowledge, too, but she still has to possess them first.
I think the problem for writers is that Magik is very powerful in a way that creates interesting situations (teleportation discs, sorcery, and magic sword/armor are very cool). Karma is very powerful in a way that breaks traditional superhero stories ("oh, a supervillain? lol i control you completely, we win"). If Karma's around, she ruins your story.

Telepath power creep means that now basically everyone has to write around this, but in her context Karma was uniquely good at completely mentally dominating a single person.
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:30 AM
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Estragon has a point regarding how possession is a power that can break your carefully planed super threat. I wonder if this is why no writer can write Jericho from the Teen Titans more than two issues before he starts betraying the team again.
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:49 AM
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Telepaths are standard on x-teams at this point and I just take it as read that telepathy doesn’t work on any given villain. Generally no one’s superpowers actually work to defeat a bad guy until they have to, but Karma’s power is binary and can’t just kind of work. (so, Estragon’s right) It does seem like they wrote telepaths out of the books a lot more in the past; now they just have them, like, establish team psi-links. (which Karma can’t do)

Anyway, she was written out in issue 54. Goodbye, Karma! I will see you around~
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:51 AM
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If nothing else, Karma taught us all the results you can expect from an exercise routine based entirely around fighting giant sand worms.
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Old 10-22-2017, 11:34 AM
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I’m generally incapable of picking up on horny Claremont fetish stuff, (mind control? sure, that’s an effective way to neutralize one’s enemies) so I was a bit taken aback by some stuff in his later New Mutants run. Jesus, Chris, they’re only fifteen.

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Old 10-22-2017, 11:48 AM
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Wow those are over the top.

Also:

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Old 11-02-2017, 11:42 PM
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Amazon's running another of their huge sales on Kindle+Comixology Marvel TPBs, and you can also get vol. 3 of Walt Simonson's Thor and vol. 1 of Matt Fraction's Thor for free here. If you buy them, it'll apply a discount code to zero ut the purchase.

Also I guess you can get vol. 1 of JMS' Thor if you want it.
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:30 PM
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I dunno if any of yall read the new Not Brand Echh one shot, but the first strip is kind of interesting: an "abridged" version of Secret Empire that doesn't really play as parody so much as just "yeah we know this thing was complete shit."

The odd part is that it's credited to Nick Spencer.
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:36 PM
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Is it a mea culpa or "Really guys, I'm not a MAGA asswipe, honest" sort of deal?
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:38 PM
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I'd file under "desperate attempt to recover brand from the toilet".
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:45 PM
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Is it a mea culpa or "Really guys, I'm not a MAGA asswipe, honest" sort of deal?
Not either? It's just really mean-spirited mockery. Of his own story and Marvel event comics generally.
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:11 PM
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just really mean-spirited mockery
Because there's not enough of THAT in either of the Two Houses, right?
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Old 11-24-2017, 12:54 PM
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in better news, the start of the new Donny Cates/Geoff Shaw Thanos story is, as expected, a hoot. guest-starring Space Ghost Rider!
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I initially read that as Space Ghost rider, as in one who rides Space Ghost, and not space Ghost Rider, Ghost Rider in space.
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Old 11-24-2017, 01:44 PM
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I will only sign on to an explicitly Christian Ghost Rider. Which is admittedly hilarious in the Marvel firmament but here I make my stand.
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Old 11-24-2017, 03:03 PM
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is the Judeo-Christian God canon in the Marvel universe? (DC for sure, but I'm not 100 percent certain about Marvel)
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Old 11-24-2017, 03:25 PM
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Jack Kirby, yes.
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