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Old 10-10-2014, 03:04 PM
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Also Genesis clearly states that He walked in the Garden with Adam so Sprite's rendering is on point
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Old 10-11-2014, 09:36 AM
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This is the best one yet.
Agreed, although "It was amazing and you missed it" is still my favorite line, hands-down. I really like the shading work too.
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Old 10-11-2014, 10:05 AM
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Thanks for the kind words, guys. I like this one a lot, too.
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Also Genesis clearly states that He walked in the Garden with Adam so Sprite's rendering is on point
Accuracy to the text is practically the shtick of this comic, art and comedy aside? I think i'ts amazing.
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:08 AM
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:11 AM
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Great work, as usual!

So, what's the official version of the "You will craw on your belly" line? Are we supposed to think snakes had legs or walked upright before The Fall? Also, at what time did they lose their ability to talk?
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Old 10-13-2014, 01:35 PM
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Great one. The snakes reactions made me laugh.
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Old 10-13-2014, 03:54 PM
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Oh, I should plug my comic's appearance in this month's BLEEP Magazine. It's a Comic Con themed issue, so there's lots of fun stuff there besides me.

I was glad you guys liked Friday's comic so much, because it's the strip I chose to represent Biblenauts in the article.
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So, what's the official version of the "You will craw on your belly" line? Are we supposed to think snakes had legs or walked upright before The Fall? Also, at what time did they lose their ability to talk?
You're asking questions the story has no interest in answering, as it doesn't address whether the snake has legs or why the snake can talk. You can interpret the snake as having legs if you want. Personally I think the crawling isn't the punishment, but eating dirt and having enmity with the woman's progeny. Similarly, the woman is not cursed with childbirth, but pain during childbirth, and the man is not cursed with work (God created him to work in the garden), but painful work.

I might be wrong, though. I haven't drilled down into the Hebrew of the snake's punishment in a while.
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Old 10-13-2014, 09:55 PM
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So where do so many modern Christians get the idea that the snake was Satan? Because that seems like one of those later additions that, while not actually explicitly stated in the text, has become next to gospel.

Edit: Also, I don't know if this jives with your vision of the project, Sprite, but I feel like Biblenauts would really benefit from a bit of running commentary, even if it's just a line or two in an alt-text. I think you've got a lot to say behind the scenes about each of these comics. Maybe it's something you'd even like to save for the inevitable book.

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Old 10-14-2014, 12:54 AM
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So where do so many modern Christians get the idea that the snake was Satan? Because that seems like one of those later additions that, while not actually explicitly stated in the text, has become next to gospel.
IIRC, it is a late addition, certainly after the New Testament. There's no Devil As Opponent concept in judaism, as evil is just the natural inclination of man. Even in Job, he's more of a prosecutor than a rival. What I don't know is when The Devil As Opponent (and Hell, for that matter) were codified into the mainstream - I'd bet the Middle Ages, but I wouldn't be surprised this was old Paul's doing.
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Old 10-14-2014, 01:34 AM
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I guess the snake -> Satan reasoning comes from the NT, from when Jesus was tempted by the Devil in the wilderness, offering him all the kingdoms of the world if J would just worship him. The serpent tempted Adam & Eve with the fruit, so clearly it's the same guy.

E: And Satan (from Job) = Devil is just because ???
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:07 AM
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As far as I know, there's really nothing linking the serpent from Genesis to the devil beyond more modern interpretations. It's a lot like how fans of Star Trek watch episodes written years apart from different writers and try to make sense of how warp drives work. The writers weren't concerned with it especially - they just needed a narrative device. It's all a fan retcon.

I'm working my way through it and I'm not this far yet, but Philip Harland's Religions of the Ancient Mediterranean podcast has a new series on Satan and that might answer some questions.
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Old 10-14-2014, 12:41 PM
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I guess Revelation also calls Satan a serpent a couple of times, but, then, Isaiah also calls Leviathan a serpent, so not all serpents are the same guy!
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Old 10-14-2014, 11:24 PM
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i love this comic

i now check the forums more often and on a schedule based on this comic

this is the goodest thing right now you have no idea, good job sprite, well met
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:17 AM
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Still falling. (Nudity. For now.)
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:47 AM
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Another quality entry.

But I take it you don't really feel the whole Felix Culpa thing huh?
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:52 AM
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I have nothing to add besides I still really like this comic, Sprite!
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Old 10-17-2014, 05:07 AM
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Old 10-17-2014, 06:45 AM
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"I don't know if any of you guys have ever seen an undisguised angel, but trust me: they are horrifying." - Professor Frank Smith

Pretty sweet Uriel there. Scary lookin' dude. The cherubim are not adorable little flying babies.
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Old 10-17-2014, 12:47 PM
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Eyes on the wings. I like it!
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Old 10-17-2014, 01:53 PM
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Pretty sweet Uriel there. Scary lookin' dude. The cherubim are not adorable little flying babies.
I never understood why angels were always drawn as attractive white guys with bird wings. Is almost as if the medieval artists that popularized the image never read one of the scary descriptions of celestial beings in the Bible. The guys who wrote those books were hardcore, yo.

Sprite, could you explain a bit how did you come to your depiction of the cherubim? Was it based in a particular source?
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:42 PM
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I never understood why angels were always drawn as attractive white guys with bird wings. Is almost as if the medieval artists that popularized the image never read one of the scary descriptions of celestial beings in the Bible. The guys who wrote those books were hardcore, yo.
I think part of it is that the descriptions in the Bible are usually pretty hard to realize visually. I don't think I've ever seen a painting of the Throne which approaches the weird abstract wheels-within-wheels description in Ezekiel.
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Sprite, could you explain a bit how did you come to your depiction of the cherubim? Was it based in a particular source?
Genesis 3 doesn't describe the cherubim, so I took some liberties. Honestly, the image which has influenced my mental picture of cherubim the most is this cover art from A Wind in the Door, which depicts the character Proginoskes:

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Old 10-17-2014, 05:49 PM
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Holy shit, yes.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:00 AM
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What's in a name?
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:29 AM
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Holy shit, yes.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:52 AM
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I ran across this album a while back where some people had found a case of someone's old drawings. Some of them appear to be of Ezekiel's vision of the wheel-within-a-wheel being and cherubim as well.

Also, I think there's only one answer(NSFW) to the question Adam asks in the last comic.
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Old 10-20-2014, 09:12 AM
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This comic is awesome. More a biblical question, I suppose, but why isn't Eve black like Adam?
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Old 10-20-2014, 10:24 AM
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This comic is awesome. More a biblical question, I suppose, but why isn't Eve black like Adam?
Neither of them are described in the story, so I can make them look however I want.
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:13 AM
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:31 PM
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I thought cherubim were described in Ezekiel? Four heads of different sources, feet of different sources, four wings.


Or are these cherubim just not related?
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