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Old 03-29-2019, 08:57 PM
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Alex Ross drew a bunch of Captains Marvel:



Pointless aside about why this thread exists:

We have a lot of very specific comics threads: For Marvel, for DC, for buying weekly floppies, for non-superheroes, for Japanese comics, and others more specific than that. For the past few years I've felt like a lot of what I've wanted to discuss in comics hasn't fit neatly into those categories for one reason or another. So, I'm just making a more general thread.

And then I saw this neat image and again ran into the problem again so I just made this thread, finally, even though it probably won't sustain any discussion.

Probably now that I've made it, I won't read anything that doesn't fit neatly again for months and no one will use this thread. Oh well! Enjoy the fun Alex Ross illustration.
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Old 03-30-2019, 06:00 AM
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I'm down with this. It feels weird to discuss the comics I'm reading in the "what did you buy this week" thread because often I don't get around to them until MUCH later and many of the ones I read are older.

BTW, we also have a thread for Comic Book News.

Anyway, I just finished Seth Tobocman's War in the Neighborhood, a reprint of works that came out in the 90's that ficto-journalize (is that a word? You get what I mean from context, right?) his experiences and the events of squatting as a form of protest/saving homes for the homeless in 80s-90s New York. It really is an interesting read and doesn't shy away from the fact that often working with a lot of the homeless and the activists can be difficult as while they have a single goal in common, they often have different means of getting there and not insignificant interpersonal battles (a chapter is spent on an extremely toxic housemate who makes the women feel uncomfortable but can manipulate many other parties into getting his way). There's a nice afterward that discusses the authors feelings 18 years later and what has changed for him, like acceptance that maybe we need the police (he's an anarchist) and certain systems in place and that he had been holding people and himself to standards that are often too high to meet. Its a really good read.
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Old 03-30-2019, 03:03 PM
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Well, as is tradition with these sort of things, let's identify who's who. One row at a time, left to right...


1- Captain Marvel
2- Captain Marvel
3- Captain Marvel
4- Captain Marvel
5- Captain Marvel
6- Captain Marvel
7- Captain Marvel
8- Captain Marvel
9- Captain Marvel
10- Captain Marvel
11- Captain Marvel
12- Captain Marvel
13- Captain Marvel
14- Captain Marvel
15- Captain Marvel
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Old 03-30-2019, 05:57 PM
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I appreciate this thread.

I've been rereading Hopeless Savages, and boy, if you're interested at all in the world of post-2000 indie comics, you should read Hopeless Savages. It's the weirdass protoform Fish-With-Legs of indie comics. Everybody got a hand on that ball; Jen van Meter, Chynna Clugston-Flores, Sophie Campbell, Bryan Lee O'Malley, Jamie McKelvie, Meredith McClaren... Everybody. The first volume is like the embarrassing early chapters of a long-running webcomic and the third volume is the embarrassing maudlin 2005 era of that same webcomic, but there's one volume in the middle about love and family and getting into trouble, with a lot of squarish pug-nosed pre-Lost At Sea Bryan Lee O'Malley art to set it apart from the rest. Even when it's bad, it's some good shit.
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:28 AM
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I just checked Bryan Lee O'Malley's tumblr and



he knows
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Old 04-05-2019, 07:15 PM
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...I'm not sure if I do or don't want to know how Ultraman is a Captain Marvel.

(Also is Snotgirl good? Should I be reading it? Are there collections yet?)
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:39 AM
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...I'm not sure if I do or don't want to know how Ultraman is a Captain Marvel.
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Anyone who Gets Big in a flash of light and thunder counts as a Captain Marvel.

Also anyone literally named Captain Marvel.

Captain Tootsie, however, just likes candy, so Im not sure why hes there.
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Old 04-06-2019, 10:51 AM
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Oh, you think the speculator market is your ally. But you merely adopted the speculator market; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see a stable ongoing series that was good on its own merits until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING! The speculator market betrays you, because it belongs to me!

He's angry about this, btw:

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Old 04-07-2019, 06:15 AM
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(Also is Snotgirl good? Should I be reading it? Are there collections yet?)
It is not! And there are collections, yes.

I've read the two volumes that are out currently and I'm willing to give it one more volume, but dear god is it a mess. The art is gorgeous; Hung draws people beautifully although she has a bad habit of being very sparse with her backgrounds, which leads to some narratively awkward scenes. The writing, however, is inexcusable. Most of the dialogue and characterization boils down to rich, shallow millenials being petty assholes to one another; while the plot is extremely loose and all over the place. It's ostensibly supposed to be some sort of thriller, but reading it feels like being gaslighted: It's never really clear what the point of a given scene is, how it ties into the rest of the story, or if it's even real or a dream/hallucination/deliberate fakeout. I really want to like it, because it's clear that O'Malley has some kind of plan for it to make sense in the end and knows how frustrated people are with the series by now (plus he probably wants to wrap it up so that he can move on to Worst World), but I absolutely can't recommend it in its current state.
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Old 04-13-2019, 11:26 AM
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I just read Hawkworld on DCUniverse (which I just noticed has the entire original run of Justice League of America, so maybe I have some reading to do). It is a pretty interesting book. Definitely a post-Dark Knight Returns, post-Watchmen superhero comic, but it is a well done version of that. It does good stuff with the set up and showing this decadent Thanagarian Empire crumbling as the book goes on. Unfortunately, it kind skips on the climax and fails to even attempt to address the societal problems it highlighted. But hey, at least the hero is against fascism in this one.
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Old 04-13-2019, 01:02 PM
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It is not! And there are collections, yes.

I've read the two volumes that are out currently and I'm willing to give it one more volume, but dear god is it a mess. The art is gorgeous; Hung draws people beautifully although she has a bad habit of being very sparse with her backgrounds, which leads to some narratively awkward scenes. The writing, however, is inexcusable. Most of the dialogue and characterization boils down to rich, shallow millenials being petty assholes to one another; while the plot is extremely loose and all over the place. It's ostensibly supposed to be some sort of thriller, but reading it feels like being gaslighted: It's never really clear what the point of a given scene is, how it ties into the rest of the story, or if it's even real or a dream/hallucination/deliberate fakeout. I really want to like it, because it's clear that O'Malley has some kind of plan for it to make sense in the end and knows how frustrated people are with the series by now (plus he probably wants to wrap it up so that he can move on to Worst World), but I absolutely can't recommend it in its current state.
I just read the two collected volumes of Snotgirl and yeah, it's just what you say.

It was still kind of a guilty pleasure for me, though.
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Old 04-15-2019, 03:29 PM
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Yeah okay, thanks to tegan and Vega for the report. I'll hold off on that one 'til it's done to see whether anyone thinks it ended up worthwhile.
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Old 04-15-2019, 04:01 PM
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FYI, if you live in the US or Canada and are a member of a decently sized library, you can read Snotgirl (and many, many other comics) for free on Hoopla. That would be an easy way to check it out if you're unsure.

(Honestly, anyone in the US or Canada who likes comics and doesn't hate reading them digitally should seriously check to see if any local libraries grant them Hoopla access. It's a ridiculously good service for comics at the moment.)
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