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Old 06-28-2012, 10:04 PM
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Yep. Just like the rainbows in your sprinklers? That's Mind Control Drugs in the water.

I wish I was kidding.

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This thread was the best idea I had all week.
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Chem trails? Are those like, when a plane flies overhead and leaves a white line in the sky?
yes but you see they are made of chemicals that make you stupid and easy to control by the government because contrails are a myth you sheeple
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here is a stunning critique of OBAMACARE
Poor BEAT. Look what OBAMACARE has done to him.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:05 AM
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Also really funny!

His strange vaccine fixation makes me thin he's just a trypanophobic trying to justify his beliefs through extreme politics though. (that's fear of needles)
Why would that need to be the case? The anti-vaccination movement is (comparatively) huge now.



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My favorite subtle (?) thing about this is that the black people are just doing some paperwork or something and don't seem very concerned about the horror they have surely wrought.

Wait, I just noticed half a guy with a goatee resting his head on a businessman's shoulder. This piece is absolutely dense with nuance.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:30 AM
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Libraries.

Funded by the government.

Full of books. Some of them on tape.

Need I say more.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:53 AM
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here is a stunning critique of OBAMACARE
There really is so much to love about this image. A couple choice bits that haven't been noted yet:

Of all the poor victims of this situation we are clearly meant to sympathize with, the most prominent are this kid on the left who's going to catch the zombie plague from this old guy here, and even moreso, the woman on the right, whose personal torture would appear to be... that people have brought their annoying children into the waiting room, and they're shrieking in her ear. Are we for or against white blond 8-year old males? Is it a class thing? The one we sympathize with has a nice classy vest, while the screaming monsters clearly come from a blue collar and farming family respectively? Also, she's apparently reading Oprah's magazine. Isn't she Part Of The Problem, being a vocal Obama supporter?

The other thing is... there's always really been something that freaks me out about this particular issue that this image nicely addresses. I mean, just ignore for the moment all the obvious misconceptions about a proper first-world style public health care system being on the table for the U.S., the economic impact, the actual reduction on the workloads of hospitals, and the really fundamental confusion between emergency room visits and actual scheduled doctor's appointments, put ourselves in the shows of these crazies, and look at what their big fear actually seems to be:

"If poor people have health insurance, they'll actually go to hospitals when they have serious problems, and I'd have to wait in line! I'd much rather they just stay home and die, so that I'm not inconvenienced like that!"

I mean... dude. That is not an opinion it is OK to express. That's kinda demonstrating that you need to have your living thinking human being card taken away. Particularly if you're involved in politics in any way.

For another example, it kind of amazes me how this guy, to the best of my knowledge, still has not been torn limb from limb by an angry mob.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:42 AM
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Chem trails? Are those like, when a plane flies overhead and leaves a white line in the sky?
Yep. You remember what caused 9/11? Planes hitting the twin towers. Think about that for a while.
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:48 AM
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Okay, I get that the crazy conspiracy theorist thing is funny to laugh at, but some of this stuff is actually true and you shouldn't deride it just because of the crazies. I mean, just because the Westboro Baptist Church exists, doesn't mean all Christians are just like them.
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:25 AM
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Which stuff is true? We are here to enjoy extreme opinions, hopefully in the form of graphics.

I would be more charitable than Google about interpreting that image (note: I know nothing about this "Dees" aside from the pictures in this thread). I think it's possible for people who oppose anti-universal health care to believe that it could lead to an overall decline in public health and health care (regardless of whether or not this is true).
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:35 AM
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That some vaccines really are bad for your health, especially for kids and infants. I know this because my brother has Autism because of the vaccines he got in his first years of life. Not the fun, internet kind of Autism either; right now he lives in a home where two caretakers have to help him live his day to day life.
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"If poor people have health insurance, they'll actually go to hospitals when they have serious problems, and I'd have to wait in line! I'd much rather they just stay home and die, so that I'm not inconvenienced like that!"
it all makes sense now!
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SO TRUE
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:33 AM
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That some vaccines really are bad for your health, especially for kids and infants. I know this because my brother has Autism because of the vaccines he got in his first years of life. Not the fun, internet kind of Autism either; right now he lives in a home where two caretakers have to help him live his day to day life.
I'm very sorry for your brother's difficulties. The current scientific consensus is that vaccines don't contribute to autism, and that the research that started the anti-vaccination movement was fraudulent, though. Not getting vaccinated can also cause public health problems because it weakens herd immunity.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:01 AM
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:02 AM
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I'm very sorry for your brother's difficulties. The current scientific consensus is that vaccines don't contribute to autism, and that the research that started the anti-vaccination movement was fraudulent, though. Not getting vaccinated can also cause public health problems because it weakens herd immunity.
Yeaaaah. That article has nothing to do with why vaccines cause autism. Here, read this: "U.S. Government Concedes That Mercury Causes Autism" http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...es-autism.aspx It's not the vaccines themselves that cause Autism, its the mercury in them. Do some research next time, instead of just surfing Wikipedia.

Edit: Actually wait, here an article that talks about how someone tested some monkeys reaction to the mercury in most vaccines "Monkeys Get Autism-like Reactions to MMR & Other Vaccines In University of Pittsburgh Vaccine Study" http://vactruth.com/2012/04/29/monkeys-get-autism/ There, some actual science on the subject. The footnotes have a link to the study in PDF format.

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Old 06-29-2012, 09:26 AM
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note: that mercola dude is legit batshit loco and also filthy rich off his massive online snake-oil-shilling empire.

thread needs less real talk and more crazy shit. Like my awesome former co-religionist Jon McNaughton, the Bircher Bob Ross.



Follow the link and mouse over all the details, it is amazing.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:30 AM
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Yeaaaah. That article has nothing to do with why vaccines cause autism. Here, read this: "U.S. Government Concedes That Mercury Causes Autism" http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...es-autism.aspx It's not the vaccines themselves that cause Autism, its the mercury in them. Do some research next time, instead of just surfing Wikipedia.
The government doesn't concede that thiomersal causes autism.

I don't think you should be rude to people who are trying to politely engage with you, but I'd imagine my initial posts came off as abrasive, and I apologize.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:39 AM
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There's been no link made between thimerosal and autism. Link.
After thimerosal was taken out of most vaccines, the rates of autism did not decline.
Here's another useful link about the topic. And another one.
Concerning your article you posted, here's this. (a decision in a court doesn't constitute evidence is the gist of it)

Also that monkey study turned out to be of pretty poor research. More about it.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:41 AM
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"U.S. Government Concedes That Mercury Causes Autism"
The VICP awarded damages in this specific case. At no point were the vaccinations proven to be responsible for Poling's autism.

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I don't think I could love this picture any more. "Really? No death panels? Then how come we've Photoshopped Obama to look like a badass psychopomp, if you're so fucking smart?"
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:43 AM
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The government doesn't concede that thiomersal causes autism.

I don't think you should be rude to people who are trying to politely engage with you, but I'd imagine my initial posts came off as abrasive, and I apologize.
Yeah, no worries. I was a little rude in my response, so sorry about that. Autism is just one of my hot button issues, thanks to my experiences. I just wanted to let you know that there is a sizable group who contest the idea that there is nothing wrong with the vaccines, and that there is some real science to back up the idea that mercury in vaccines causes autism. You did read my edit with the scientific study, right? Besides, it wouldn't be the first time the government has lied to us.

Oh, and if you want reply to this post, do it in the other political thread. Let's leave these guys to their image macros.
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Lincoln is mightily pissed that Jesus busted in and upstaged him at the end of his vaudeville act.
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:04 AM
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I'd posted before I saw the edit, yes, but I'm not that interested in discussing this further. Looks like Sly is, though.

Do we have a political cartoons thread?


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It may also be worth noting that according to the Mayo Clinic, children are most likely to begin presenting symptoms of autism spectrum disorder between the ages of 12 months and 24 months. 12 months also happens to be the age at which the CDC recommends that children receive a variety of vaccinations, including Influenza and MMR vaccines (the two that the anti-vaccination advocates typically point to as causing autism). I'm not aware of any reputable studies that demonstrate a higher incidence of of ASD among children who have been vaccinated compared to those who have not, which is the kind of smoking gun which would indicate a causative relationship between vaccines and ASD. In the absence of any such evidence, the relationship between vaccination and the onset of symptoms of autism seems coincidental; they're two events that simply tend to happen at approximately the same time in a child's life.

This points to one of the more insidious aspects of the anti-vaccination movement: it tells the parents of autistic children that they did something wrong in having their children vaccinated, and that they're responsible for causing a disorder that in reality they had no control over. I can't help but consider that to be irresponsible and callous.

The other major problem I have with the anti-vaccination movement is that vaccinations save millions of lives each year. According to the World Health Organization, measles alone caused an estimated 2.6 million deaths each year prior to 1980, and still killed over 139,000 people (mostly children) worldwide in 2010. If large numbers of parents are dissuaded from having their children vaccinated because of flawed studies and bogus inferences, we know what the consequences will be, and they will be terrible.

I apologize for shitting up the Bad Politics thread with unnecessary sincerity. By way of reparations, I'll just leave you all with a link to Kate Beaton making fun of old Canadian political cartoons.
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