The Return of Talking Time

Go Back   The Return of Talking Time > Talking about media > Let's Play Already

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 07-18-2014, 02:30 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default



That's the room downstairs with the bloody handprints outside it. Presumably we'll be able to get into it now..?

There's also a dresser with an herbal medicine hidden in it.



And another one in a planter.





Time to run past Blanka...



...back to the hallway with the branching corridor.





Even in death, the villagers are scared of Sae.





This is actually two ghosts; the dragger and the dragee. It's possible to capture them both in a single shot, but we won't actually know if I've managed to do it until postgame when the spirit list unlocks.



There is way more blood everywhere actually inside the room. Photographing this closet caused a pair of ghosts to appear.



This fight against Limbo Man and Limbo Woman is actually really tough. It's a small room, and the floor is littered with boxes that are short and hard to see. And she teleports around.



That red light directly below the filament is the Fatal Frame indicator.



An item orb appears after defeating both ghosts.





Score! This lens will push a ghost back even without scoring a zero shot. It's great for giving yourself breathing room to maneuver or charge up another shot.





This game seems way more generous with items than the first game. We've got around twenty-five of these things hoarded, and they recover about two-thirds of Mio's lifebar. In harder modes, the recovery is less.



This wasn't here before.







The only thing left to do is go back upstairs and use that key.



He's barely even scary anymore.



Back in the guest room, there's a new vanishing spirit.





Approaching the glowing orb triggers a flashback.



Quick flashes show a figure bound and being plunged into a pit.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 07-18-2014, 02:32 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default







And then back to the period piece.











... it will definitely end well.





So the implication here is that the villagers sacrificed the folklorist Seijiro Makabe, probably because he got too close to secrets he had no business knowing. This somehow turned him into the creature known as the Kusabi. He is now hanging out in the Great Hall and making first-floor navigation annoying.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Folklorist 4
Ancient village records have been stored in the Ceremony Master's house.

Many discuss the legends, folktales or rituals of the village.

There are sure to be many records of folklore value.

The Forbidden Ritual is also called the Crimson Sacrifice Ritual.

Twins are used to help seal the gate to hell. There are two parts.

The Visible Ceremony, which occurs periodically, and if it fails, a Hidden Ceremony is performed.

If all the ceremonies fail, the gate to hell will open, the dead will pour out, and the skies will go dark.

They call this disaster the "Repentance".

The whereabouts of Munakata's friends, the twin boys Itsuki and Mutsuki, are unknown, which is a little troubling.

If they are found, I might be able to ask them about the village.
Picking up this diary has also inspired Mio to write some more memos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Memo: All God's Village
The place Mio and Mayu have wandered into is the lost village, "All God's Village".

It vanished long ago on the night of the "Forbidden Ritual".

The spot where the village once stood is covered in thick fog, and now only a Twin Deity Statue marks its location.

A single young girl was left behind when the village vanished.

Legends of this village are recorded in the writings of a folklorist's assistant.

This assistant was said to have come out of the village just before it disappeared.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Memo: Secret Site
No one must see the place where the Forbidden Ritual was performed.

It was forbidden even to speak its name.

A folklorist named Seijiro Makabe came to All God's Village to investigate this site, thinking it might be the very gateway to hell itself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Memo: Folklorist
Seijiro Makabe was a folklorist who traveled all over Japan investigating local customs.

He borrowed the Camera Obscura from his friend Dr. Aso and set out to make an account of All God's Village's practice of raising twins as Shrine Maidens and its hell-gate ritual, the Forbidden Ritual.

Makabe's goal was to clear up the old legends about the hell gate by taking photographs and conducting research on the village and its Forbidden Ritual.
Who seriously looks for the gate to hell, anyway?



There's a ghost lying on the floor of the flickering room. She can't be photographed -- she's just there.





YAY CREEPY DOLLS





Is Sae talking to a skull? Sae is talking to a skull, isn't she?



Wait... Mayu was talking to a skull? And where's the skull?









NO SACRIFICING ME. NO. BAD.







Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 07-18-2014, 02:34 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default



Best idea ever.

Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 07-18-2014, 10:11 PM
Torzelbaum's Avatar
Torzelbaum Torzelbaum is offline
????? LV 13 HP 292/
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 10,201
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Droewyn View Post
She's... she's writing self-insertion fanfic, isn't she? In the next scene all the ghosts will fall in love with her and then she'll develop a superpower or something.
Mio Sue?
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 07-19-2014, 09:07 AM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Torzelbaum View Post
Mio Sue?
In the next chapter we'll discover that she's actually Sailor Earth and is destined to be with Peter Parker.

"Oh, Spiderman-sama, I've been thinking about you, desu!"
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 07-19-2014, 09:41 AM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

I don't know if anyone is interested, but here is where I keep my notes for item locations and events in this game. I don't know if it really makes sense to anyone but me, but it's already more accurate than anything on gamefaqs, so there's that.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 07-21-2014, 02:40 PM
BEAT's Avatar
BEAT BEAT is offline
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SKELETON HELL.
Posts: 22,018
Default

I'm enjoying reading this LP.

This is a good LP.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 07-21-2014, 05:12 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BEAT View Post
I'm enjoying reading this LP.

This is a good LP.
Yay! I'm glad you are enjoying it.

Also, I noticed the youtube link was broken for the Fluorite and fixed it. Out of all of the crystals so far (other than Mayu's) this is the one that's actually kinda sorta vaguely plot important.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 07-21-2014, 09:31 PM
Dawnswalker's Avatar
Dawnswalker Dawnswalker is offline
Love and Peace
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,794
Default

MIO SEE PRITY LIGHT MIO PRITY GIRL

RITUAL BAD
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 08-01-2014, 09:36 AM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

We finally caught up with Mayu, and now we can focus our efforts on getting the heck outta here.



As the chapter begins, we can see a glowing item partially hidden behind the screen.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly Diary 1
Munakata and his teacher came to the village today. He said he was worried about Itsuki and came to help.

But I can't tell outsiders about the village. Itsuki's locked up in the storehouse. I doubt he'll be allowed to talk with an outsider.

-Yae


Mr. Makabe made a picture of us with his picture box. My face looked strange, but it was interesting to see.

He's probably going to be **, because our cleansing isn't finished yet.

Before that happens, we have to help him escape.

If I can become one with you Yae, I'll be happy. That's the only thing that matters to me.

-Sae
It appears our white-haired boy has a name: Itsuki. Also, the young girls know that Makabe is going to be killed horribly, and Sae is kind of creepy.



Speaking of creepy, Mayu spends most of this chapter babbling incoherent and disturbing things as we walk around.



The camera is reacting to the doll shelf. Because of course it is. Massed dolls with their unblinking glassy-eyed stares freak me out. My grandmother's apartment is full of the soulless things, just waiting for the opportunity to devour me...

Anyway.





Why are the two orange garbed dolls missing their heads?



In the image they have heads, and have been moved to the top shelf. Well, there aren't any random doll heads lying around here, so time to go. Remember that dead lady who was just lying on the floor in the next room?



She's finished her nap and wants to say hi.



It's another Woman In Box. She's still a pain in the ass even though our camera is much more powerful, because she can still only be damaged with a zero shot or Fatal Frame and the zero shot window is very short. But she likes to pick on Mayu as much as Miyako's ghost did (all ghosts will target Mayu given an opportunity -- she's a sitting duck) and using your sister as bait is a good way to avoid damage. You monster.



An item appears once she's been defeated.



Well, that was the easiest fetch quest ever.





Reuniting the dolls with their heads starts a short and simple mini-game. It's a variation on a sliding tile puzzle where your goal is to get the two orange dolls up to the wooden platforms at the top. The placement of the other dolls is unimportant. The only challenging thing about it is the minute timer, but if you fail you can start over as many times as you need to without penalty.



There's a drawer?



Oh, hey. This unlocks the door in the entrance hallway that we couldn't get into last chapter. Pity we won't need it, since we're getting out of here as soon as possible.



Mayu continues to natter dreamily.



The puzzle is solved, but the camera is still reacting to something. The signal seems to be strongest where the shelves meet the wall.





Is it a doll or a person? Do dolls have ghosts? Let's keep moving.







Quote:
Originally Posted by Folklorist 6
The twin girls of the house gave me a map that shows a side door.

They said that the Hidden Ceremony is near, and I should escape out the side door during the night.

They left so quickly I couldn't even ask them about it.

The other people in the house are acting normally.

Was there some ulterior motive behind the generous hospitality?

Just to be safe, I will tell Munakata to go home ahead of me.
Telling the folklorist that a ceremony is coming up without explicitly telling him he's going to be horribly murdered as the main attraction probably wasn't the best idea. He's making sure his young assistant is safe, but is too curious to be sensible on his own behalf.



This is the side door Makabe mentioned. But we shouldn't need that -- we're leaving through the front entrance. ...Right?



Dude. Have you seen the walking movement speed in this game? If we didn't run, the playtime would be sixty-five hours.

Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 08-01-2014, 09:37 AM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default



Mayu again.



The locked door in the corridor is still locked.



Nope, I was born to be wild. Or maybe born to run. Or born to fly. Born to be... Natalie Grant? What the hell, Google autocomplete? That doesn't even make sense.

The point is that, evolutionarily speaking, I was actually born to pass on my genes, which means absolutely no being ritually murdered at fourteen. Call me a broken record, but I really can't stress that enough.



Mayu's photobombs do not affect points scoring for ghost photos. Thank goodness.



The camera is reacting to this tiny garden area at the base of the staircase.





She looks so happy, but then she gets to haunt the pretty bamboo atrium. The phantom stuck spending eternity in the toilet is far more surly.





This is a good function! Now if we hit the shutter button just as we're being grabbed, the flash will go off and startle the ghost, allowing us to escape taking damage. Timing is tricky, but this is a serious help.





The Kusabi is gone from the great hall, but Mayu marches ahead to stand motionless in the center of the room.











Sometimes when a girl says nothing is wrong, she means that nothing is wrong. But sometimes she means that she's slowly being possessed by a murderous ghost and getting ready to set off on another rampage of bloody destruction. It's important to learn to read body language and tone in order to tell the difference!



Look, you're the one standing around in an abattoir. I've been trying to get us out of here this whole time!

Except... there's a closet in the corner that we couldn't get into before because with the Kusabi around it would have been a death trap. Time to check it out.









So this is where Masumi bought it, huh? This ghost and ring only appear if Mio has all five Village Reports in her inventory from Chapter 2. Otherwise, this would be an empty (blood-spattered) closet.



Yes. Excellent. We have compatible goals, Mayu. Keep on keeping on with the not-killing thing.

...Why exactly am I letting you walk behind me, again?



Upon leaving the great hall, a hand reaches up ominously.



It's a Limbo Man. Sadly, he can't be damaged while he's laboriously climbing onto the wooden walkway. On the bright side, he's still a piece of cake on his own.

Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 08-01-2014, 09:38 AM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default



He leaves behind a present.





NO. BAD.



A ghostly pair of legs can be seen behind the tattered curtain.



We're finally back at the main entrance! Time to--



How did I know that was coming?



We've been over that. And the running speed is ridiculously slow and plodding too, just sayin'.



This is one of two ghosts in this room that can be captured after Curtain Shadow but are mutually exclusive. Since we spawned this guy by touching the front door, the other one ("Hopes for Ritual") will no longer appear. He'll need to be captured during New Game+.



Unlocking this door is what would have triggered him to appear.







Note the glowing item in the ceiling. I wonder how we get that?







Approaching this door causes it to swing open.



If I hadn't been so hair-triggered on this shot, I could have gotten this boy's head in the frame when he peeked out for a lot more points. Oops!



Let's check out those stairs, since we know there's an item up there.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceremony Master's Note 3
When the twins were born, I was miserable knowing they were doomed.

They were raised freely, without pain or sadness.

They say the pain of the * never stops.

The elder sister must kill the younger in the Crimson Sacrifice Ritual.

It's a cruel, horrible fate.
I believe I have made my opinion abundantly clear re: sororicide, Mayu.







There's the hole in the floor, with the item glowing within.



Yes. And even though it's clearly within easy reach, we can't get it. Apparently despite having fought for her life against the restless dead, Mio is still squeamish about spiders.



Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 08-01-2014, 09:40 AM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

There's a door in the back of this room, but we're heading back down the stairs instead. I don't remember if the door was locked or stuck; we just didn't go there now.



A ball drops down through the hole in the ceiling.





It's a real ball, not a ghost ball. Hey, maybe if we toss it down the hole, it'll dislodge the item..?



Yep!



We haven't come across a door with this lock on it yet. Let's check out the doorway where the little kid was peeking from earlier.





This is a tricky shot because the little brat is fast. He didn't appear in the picture, but we still got credit for it so yay.







Here are some very fancy double doors, but they're not opening.





Continuing down the hallway for a really hard ghost. This kid is blurry because he's sprinting across the hallway. He's only on the screen for maybe half a second; Mio will automatically turn to face him when we press the finder button, but she won't be fast enough.

The way to capture him is to go into finder view while next to the double doors, and face the direction we came from. Then, while hugging the wall on Mio's right, moonwalk down the hallway while angling the camera down and toward the center of the hall. The screen will go fuzzy and there'll be a heartbeat sound right before the kid runs into view; snap the shot about three quarters of a second after the heartbeat, without waiting to actually see the ghost.



Once again, Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Photo. But it counts, and that's all that matters.



The hall ends in a door.



Coincidentally, we just happen to have the key for that.





This is the ghost of the folklorist speaking, not Mayu.



There's a cell in the back of the room. Because most ancestral family homes are equipped to store prisoners. Approaching it causes the perspective to shift to the inside of the cell.





I think that moving so that his face is unobstructed by bars will net more points, but whatever.



Makabe speaking again.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Folklorist 8
Long ago a visitor to a mountain village became a ceremonial sacrifice.

When the Veiled Priests captured me, they said things like "Outsider" and "Kusabi"...

What exactly is the nature of the Hidden Ceremony?

The key the twin girls gave me must be for the side door of the house.

The key for the cell must be in another house. According to the map, the key is hidden in a cave under the Osaka house.

Maybe this is the cellar in the passageway that I read about...
Looks like we're gonna need a key to get out of this house. And Makabe had the key, so it might be still in the cell? We need to get in there.

Reading this file also inspires Mio to write a new Memo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Memo: The Cave
A huge cave spread beneath every area of All God's Village.

Parts of the cave were used for storage or for getting from one house to the other.

Some of the village wells were also connected to this cave, and the wind blowing up through them from below made an eerie sound.


Anyway. Cell.



Well, crap. Looks like we're searching for another pair of keys. I really hope the cell keys aren't in Osaka house like the folklorist thought... I mean, if we need to get into the cell to get out of the house, but can't get into the cell without leaving, we're kind of screwed, you know?

This seems like a good place to take a break, at any rate.

Next update is most likely going to be a week late because my husband and I are going on vacation. I mean, I suppose I could scramble to get it done before we leave, but don't hold your breath or anything.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 08-01-2014, 11:00 AM
Mogri's Avatar
Mogri Mogri is offline
Yes, let's feast!
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 14,550
Default

I'm sorry I haven't spoken up sooner, but the writing in this LP is fantastic. I don't even care about the game, but the LP is still worth coming back for.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 08-01-2014, 01:19 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

Wow, thank you!
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 08-01-2014, 07:52 PM
Torzelbaum's Avatar
Torzelbaum Torzelbaum is offline
????? LV 13 HP 292/
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 10,201
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Droewyn View Post




Sometimes when a girl says nothing is wrong, she means that nothing is wrong. But sometimes she means that she's slowly being possessed by a murderous ghost and getting ready to set off on another rampage of bloody destruction. It's important to learn to read body language and tone in order to tell the difference!
I think this needs to be posted in the Relationshippy Talk thread. It's valuable advice!
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 08-22-2014, 12:36 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

Okay, so we're looking for two keys in order to get into this jail cell where just maybe we'll find the key to get out of Kurosawa House. Note to self: Next time roll a rogue instead of a psionic.

Anyway, there's more stuff to see here. There's an unexplored corridor leading off of the room with the cell.

It has a storage closet...





...from which emerges a ghost to attack Mayu!





Interesting note about this one: it only appears if you're running well ahead of Mayu. If you're actually being a good sister and limiting your pace to her creeping limp, the ghost won't be emboldened enough to appear.

And on that subject, did ChildhoodInjury!Mayu get absolutely no medical attention whatsoever after her fall? Kids heal like freaking Wolverine -- there is no reason why a broken leg caused by a fifteen-foot drop should turn into a permanent affliction unless her parents were neglectful assholes and just told her to walk it off or something. Maybe Mio isn't the one who really deserves to feel guilty here.





The corridor ends in a cellar, where we make the acquaintance of a new friend!



Veiled Priest throws skulls! He also swings that staff of his, and teleports. Get used to the ghosts teleporting; they basically all do it by this point. This first encounter isn't too difficult, though, and he leaves behind an orb upon defeat.





The other end of the cellar has a save point and a set of stairs.





We need at least three keys; haven't you been paying attention?



Toldja so.

Nothing else here! Time to do some backtracking.





Oh, FFS. I don't even look like Yae!



"Hey, would you like to try a Crimson Sacrifice Ritual? All the cool kids are doing it, and you want to be cool, don't you? Of course you do. First taste is free; I'll only murder you a little bit and you can decide if you like it. No pressure!"



Those ornate double doors are magically unstuck now.



It's an altar room! And a rematch with our new BFF, Veiled Priest!





He likes to attack Mayu as much as everyone else seems to.



Mayu continues to lose it.




Do these people really not understand why teenage girls might not be on board with being sacrificed?

Anyway, there's a lot of stuff in here.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceremony Master's Note 1
The Malice coming from the * is getting stronger. I've searched, and there is no record of it getting this strong in the past.

Recently, poor harvests and deaths have begun to increase.

The time of repentance for Tachibana's failure to perform the ritual is drawing near.

Half of the Mourners were driven mad by the Malice and jumped into the *.

We must prepare more Mourners, we'll use the sinners.

If we don't do something, the * will overflow in a few years.

I must use my daughters in the ritual.

Sae and Yae must be cleansed.

For the village!


Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 08-22-2014, 12:39 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceremony Master's Note 4
Sae and Yae ran away with that boy, a Remaining.

The Kusabi calmed the * a little, but it is still rumbling.

If the twins aren't brought back, the village will be swallowed by the *.

They are my daughters, I must find them.
Dude. Have you considered moving away? There are lots of areas in Japan that aren't sitting directly on top of a Hellmouth. Very nice places. Good schools. No?



There is a staircase going up, and two going down. Let's try up.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly Diary 3
The Time of the ritual is coming soon. Itsuki and Mutsuki's ritual didn't work and this year it's our turn.

I'm leaving the village with you. Itsuki will help us escape, and we'll be together forever, like I promised.

- Yae


The truth is, I don't want to run.

But as long as I can be with you, I'll follow you anywhere. Just don't leave me here alone.

- Sae
It's been said before, but there is something deeply wrong with Sae.











It's an actual RPG puzzle! Mayu agrees to hang out on the switch so that we can go through the little half-door.

But first, there's some camera equipment on the ground.



Um, I haven't used this one in a while. I think it makes ghosts that have gone invisible show up, but I'm not exactly sure. Here's a description: "While this effect is active, the spirit is easier to locate. This is especially effective against spirits that vanish for extended periods." So... whatever that means, it does it!

Can you tell I just don't use lenses that much? And when I do, I go for the more active ones that stun or provide knockback.

Anyway. Little door.



It's a closet!



Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly Diary 2
I was wrong. It's just like Itsuki said.

Munakata's teacher is going to be a *. This has to stop!

People like Mutsuki shouldn't have to die. I have to do something. A Veiled Priest took one of the cell keys to the rope temple.

- Yae


It seems Father plans to make that man a *. Even though he's Munakata's teacher! I know one cell key is hidden in Father's bookshelves.

To keep the * appeased, there's only one thing to do. If we perform the Crimson Sacrifice, perhaps people won't suffer like this...

- Sae
On the one hand, I'm kind of wondering why these conversations needed to be written down for Mio to find later. I mean, couldn't they have just spoken to each other?

On the other hand, when an entire village is invested in sacrificing you, you're probably being monitored pretty closely.



The other end of the closet is a lattice where we can look in on a room. The ghost of the Ceremony Master is inside, talking to himself.





Now, this part is important. We have to hang out and listen to him until he's done talking.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceremony Master's Ghost
Let us prepare to make a Kusabi.

I'll hold onto this key so that escape is impossible.


Now we can leave.



For pity's sake, Mayu, I was just in a closet like six feet away. You freak out when we're in separate bathroom stalls and I wasn't going to say anything but it's kinda creepy.

Back in the altar room with the red candles, it's time to explore downstairs. There are two staircases, but they both lead to the same place.





We've seen this type of switch before...







Lost Vikings this game ain't.



Seriously? I'm right here! ... You know what, forget this. I'm going into the room we just unlocked.



Nope! But we get mistaken for them all the time.

Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 08-22-2014, 12:41 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default





Yay, it's one of the cell keys!





Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceremony Master's Note 5
Yae is not coming back. Did she really leave Sae behind? Did she survive in the forest?

If Sae is cleansed and acts as Shrine Maiden alone, the * might be appeased.

The records do not mention any rituals with a single Shrine Maiden, but I will do it. I have to try.

Yae, why did you run?

Why won't you come back?
Again, it doesn't exactly take Sherlock Holmes to come up with a plausible motivation here. I remain baffled at their bafflement.



Tell them they have the wrong number!



No problem, we already have a key with a butterfly on it! Oh... a different butterfly key? Poop.

Well, where is there left to go? There was that door in the back of the room where we had to drop the ball through the hole... how about there?





See that little alcove in the pillar with the statue in it? If we hadn't listened to the Master's monologue from the closet that would appear to be a blank panel. Also, the Master wouldn't be here talking (and soon to be attacking) now.





This fight was annoying! The room is small and he kept hiding in the walls where the camera couldn't reach him, chucking skulls at Mayu.







Oh hey, we've been up here before! This is the second story hallway with the guest room and the door that was locked.



It's not locked now! Shortcuts are always good.



There's a lot to pick up here before we examine that alcove with the statue.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceremony Master's Note 2
An Outsider visited with perfect timing.

I'll use him for the Hidden Ceremony, and pacify the *.

We must ensure he doesn't escape before that.


Everybody's dead, Dave. They're all dead. Everybody is dead, Dave.



Yeeeah, I'm gonna go with "not guilty" on that one.



On each side of the hexagonal pillar, there is a book to be picked up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson Wing Tome
Shrine Maidens of the past and future, made into Crimson Butterflies, return from the *, as guardians of the village.

Those that become butterflies ascend to heaven, parting the skies above, inviting the light upon us.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Disaster Tome
If the ritual is not performed the * will open.

Inhuman wretches shall burst forth from the *, villagers will be engulfed by the *, and the sky will be plunged into darkness.

The darkness will spread over the land for generations, awaking the *.

We must think of this disaster as a Repentance for our failure to fulfill our duty to the *, which grants us life.

We must accept that this is the reason for our existence.
Oh, I see. You pretend to hate the demon gate, but secretly worship it because you think it grants you power. That explains a lot, really. And removes like all of your moral high ground.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ritual Tome
If the * rumbles on a year without the ceremony, a Kusabi is needed.

A Kusabi is an outsider, made into a Buddha, and offered to the *.

The more they suffer, the greater the calming of the *.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Taboo Tome
The gate to hell is called the *. Gaze not upon the *. Eyes that glimpse the * will be blinded by the *. Speak not of the *. The mouth which utters * will be made speechless by the *. Listen not to the *. Those who heed the * are turned heartless by the *.
I'm copy-pasting the formatting here and it's still super annoying to type.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Twin Tome
In the Crimson Sacrifice Ritual, the Shrine Maidens become one again, they become a deity and appease the *.

The latter stays here, watching over the human world.

The first shall pass through the *, calming the earth.


Key!



Wait... it's a puzzle? Surely we could just force the key out of the statue's hand, right? No?

Anyway, we have to insert the books into the slots in the correct order. We could do this by figuring out the way that the individual texts make the most sense when read together as a whole... or we could just look at the red words and not have to think at all.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 08-22-2014, 12:43 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default



Guess which one I did.



Leaving the Master's room gets us attacked by a single Man in Dark.



They're really a joke when there aren't three of them.



Another one in the hallway on the way to the cell.







There are two sections to the cell. The first area has a glowing item.







Around the corner is a small library area. This is the folklorist talking, not Mayu. And no, dude, the keys were in the Master's room and the rope temple.





A folklorist in a library... what are the odds that he wouldn't leave something on the shelves?





Quote:
Originally Posted by Folklorist 9
As expected, the jailer won't tell me anything, won't even say a word.

It's a total reversal of the treatment I got when I came to the village.

I guess this was the real reason I was invited to the village.



Hellish Abyss

It is unclear how long this hole that connects our world to the underworld has existed.

They say if the cover to it is opened, it will cause a terrible disaster.

This is the origin of the "gate to hell" folktale. As a taboo word, it is often represented in other texts as "*".

The suffering of the sacrifice is used to seal the Hellish Abyss.



The Mourners

They are the guardians of the Hellish Abyss, and are the only ones that can get near it.

When the year of the ceremony comes, the Mourners sew their eyes shut so they cannot glimpse the Hellish Abyss.

Criminals and anyone that has seen the Hellish Abyss are also forced to become Mourners.

Afterwards, they live underground, never returning to the surface.

What can be so bad that looking at it is forbidden?
Good to see that imprisonment and your impending demise hasn't dulled your intellectual curiosity.

You know, the curiosity that got you into this mess.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Folklorist 10
Twin Shrine Maidens

Twin Shrine Maidens are sacrificed in the Crimson Sacrifice Ritual.

Boys are sometimes used as well. In this case, they are called Altar Twins.

The people of this region believe that twins were once a single being, which was split into two at birth.

The ceremony is based on the belief that when the two bodies are reunited as one, the Shrine Maiden will gain the power of a deity.

The text says "the older sister must ** the younger, and throw her into the *".

The ** part must refer to the most horrible part of the ritual, probably some kind of "sacrifice".
Mio has written some more memos based on the folklorist's findings.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Memo: Twin Shrine Maidens
In All God's Village, twins were born at certain regular intervals.

The villagers believed twins were a single person that split and got born as two.

Twins were thought to radiate a great energy when they became one again.

At times, boy twins also performed the ritual

These twins were called "Altar Twins".
"Two bodies, one soul" is a pretty common myth about twins. The nastier version is that some cultures believe only one of the twins gets born with the soul. The other one is either soulless or actively demonic -- and the soulless one is considered ripe for demonic possession anyway. Demons are expert liars, so you can't reliably tell which is the good twin and which is the evil twin, so you'd better kill them both to be sure.

Sadly, infanticide of twins is still occurring in some parts of the world due to these superstitions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Memo: The Hellish Abyss
The enormous pit at the site where the Forbidden Ritual was performed was called "the Hellish Abyss".

The villagers believed it was the entrance to hell, and threw the Crimson Sacrifices into it to appears the darkness and keep it from spilling out and covering the village.

In All God's Village, it was forbidden to approach this site or even to speak its name.

In books, the name of this forbidden place was only written as "the *.

Anyone who looked into the Hellish Abyss' darkness would die in madness.

Those who performed the Hellish Abyss' rituals were called "The Mourners".

Their eyes were sewn shut so they couldn't see. Anyone who tried to look into the Hellish Abyss was also called "The Mourners", and had their eyes sewn shut, too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Memo: One Remained
The Crimson Sacrifice Ritual made use of the great energy radiated when twins became one.

The ritual was so abominable it was forbidden to even write of it.

The only thing known about it now is that after the twins performed the ritual, only one remained.
I really hate euphemisms, you know? Call someone a witch, and everyone knows what word you're really calling them; stop insulting everyone's intelligence and own your language choices. If you were that morally upstanding, you wouldn't be calling people names at all. Similarly, not talking about the horrible ritual where you make children kill each other does not make it any less horrible.





Hooray!





IT'S ABOUT TIME



What. No!



DAMMIT.







This is going to involve searching Osaka House, isn't it?

Last edited by Droewyn; 08-22-2014 at 01:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 08-22-2014, 12:45 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default













Starving to death would be a pretty silly way to die.













Thanks so much for the guilt trip, sis. No, really.









That's not Mayu's voice there; it's Sae's.



Mio looks back, but it's just Mayu looking like the Crown Princess of Forlornia.



Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 08-22-2014, 06:55 PM
Dawnswalker's Avatar
Dawnswalker Dawnswalker is offline
Love and Peace
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,794
Default

Mayu's leg healed up just fine. She's just got one hell of a case of Munchausen's Syndrome.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nich View Post
I've played this game before back when it came out (I could tell a really fun/gross story about the press junket for it...)
I want a story!
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 08-22-2014, 07:04 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nich View Post
I've played this game before back when it came out (I could tell a really fun/gross story about the press junket for it...) and I'm enjoying this LP a lot. But going back to the quote at the beginning...



He's not doing such a great job of this, is he? The storyline has been completely transparent since chapter II at the latest--all the papers lying around and spooky voice gem recordings are doing is belaboring the obvious and fairly simple story that 1) this is a lost village who used to sacrifice twins, 2) it traps people who come to it to live out the sacrifices again and again, and 3) it's doing that to you and your sister right now. The white-haired kid is at least a little bit of a wrinkle in the plot, but otherwise...
I'm with Dawnswalker... you brought it up, now you're obligated to tell!

There's definitely more characterization going on here than in the first game. I know I'm a lot more invested in Mio than I was in Miku. But then, I'm not sure if that's due to actual better storytelling or the fact that Miku was a complete idiot...

But yeah, the story itself really isn't complicated at all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawnswalker
Mayu's leg healed up just fine. She's just got one hell of a case of Munchausen's Syndrome.
I'd kind of been thinking along the same lines, to be honest. I think it's just fanon, but a lot of Crimson Butterfly sites claim that Mayu fell off of the embankment on purpose, too.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 08-23-2014, 08:34 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

Ugh, being tied to a drunk person would be plenty bad enough for me, never mind the having to stand there while he peed! I wonder whether any of the women journalists had similar issues...
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 09-06-2014, 02:42 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

So this was the worst update ever to produce. Fraps decided not to play nicely with PCSX2 all of a sudden, resulting in a single hour of gameplay taking nearly six hours to record. Then when it was time to upload the screencaps yesterday, my internet went down for several hours. Imgur decided to get in on the act by getting all flaky, too. So this update has been brought to by the letters S, N, A, F, and U. Please enjoy it!



At the start of chapter 5, the game automatically pulls up the map that we found in the folklorist's cell. It really wants us to understand that we need to go to the Osaka house, which is the first house that we explored. The room marked with the red X is the family altar room -- where we found the camera.



Mayu still doesn't want to be left alone. While understandable -- I would not want to be left alone in a haunted village either and everyone knows that splitting the party is for stupid people who deserve to become ghosts -- the alternative is to hang out on opposite sides of the door until both girls starve. Action must be taken!



She does look very sad, though.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayu
I don't want to be alone...

Yae... you broke your promise again...
As we are already horrible people who are going to hell for eavesdropping on our sister's private thoughts, it probably won't hurt to keep doing it.





Anyway, with our shiny new key in hand, it's time to get out of here through the basement exit.



Why is she called Woman In Box when she's only actually been inside a box once? Why not Woman On Floor or Woman In Well?



This fight was actually super easy. The basement is huge so I was able to keep lots of space between Mio and the ghost.



She left behind an item.



With nothing left between us and sweet, sweet freedom, it's time to get out of here!





A ghost appears on the covered walkway between two of the houses.



The way to catch it is to keep running until the end of the pathway, then turn and snap. It's tricky, but doable.





As we head toward Osaka house, a number of vanishing ghosts draw us toward the storehouse instead.













If there was ever any doubt that Sae is the one possessing Mayu, it should be gone by now.



She's actually a stationary ghost here -- she'll only vanish if we approach too closely. When she disappears, she leaves behind some stuff.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly Diary 4
(Blank page where Yae usually writes)





Yae... Why did you leave by yourself?

It's our fault that this is happening to Itsuki.

You promised we'd always be together.

-Sae


Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 09-06-2014, 02:46 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

So the logical thing would be to go talk to the boy behind the storehouse (presumably Itsuki), right? WRONG.

... Well, yeah, it is actually logical. It also seems to be what the game wants us to do right now. But if we did that then we would miss a ghost sighting. Visiting the storehouse at this point would make the folklorist not appear in Osaka House.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Makabe's Ghost
I've heard he is locked up in a storehouse...




This is the spot where the ghost was hanging out, but there doesn't seem to be anything interesting. Maybe we should go to the storehouse now? (Hint: yes)





...after picking up this Ultimate Film. You know it's badass when you only get 2-3 exposures of it at a time.

To the Storehouse!





The butterflies are still hanging around from earlier.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsuki(?)
Break the pinwheel seal to get to the basement of that house.

Search the family altar. It has some kind of mechanism.

Make all four sections of the pinwheel the same color. That'll open the underground door.

Don't give up... we can get out...

Yae... Both of you need to leave this village.

We can't keep letting them perform that ritual.
I don't know what he expects us to find; we were just there and all there was was boring ritual stuff.

I took another picture of him because I can, but I think it's the same spirit list entry as the other one. Pictures of Mayu and Itsuki aren't worth any points, at any rate.



He was actually looking at the camera this time!

So we're supposed to go back to Osaka House how, but we're going to take a quick side trip to the cemetery for a ghost hunt.



Stop pretending you guys are even remotely threatening. Really, it's embarrassing.





This cute little girl is worth a whopping 1400+ points and is pretty easy to snap. By contrast, the infamous Butterfly Chaser gave us a piddling ~400 points. Being an obsessive completionist really sucks sometimes.

Enough delay; let's go back to Osaka House. But before we reexamine the family altar room, let's see if there's anything interesting going on in some of the other rooms.

First up: the back room with the brazier and garden access.



A black-and-white cut scene is never a good sign. Mio is shining her flashlight around the room.







Masumi is not pleased to be interrupted.





A flashback within a flashback!





Who cares? Time to loot the room! Before we grab the item that the ghosts left behind, there's something on this cushion.





This function gives a sound alert in addition to the flashing light when there is a Fatal Frame opportunity. This is also our reward for completing the Masumi and Miyako side quest, by the way; if we had not taken all the surveyor photos and obtained the Bloody Ring in the Kurosawa House closet, this would be an empty room and the cut scene would not have happened.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloody Memo
I have to go back.

There's something I have to give her.
Presumably he meant the ring, not the strangling. Vengeful ghosts do not have the same priorities as regular people and are no longer interested in proposing marriage.







... Oh, dear.

This fight is brutal. This room is not only small, but it has partitions and obstacles on the floor like the brazier that make running around a challenge. In addition, both ghosts teleport and actively attempt to pincer attack Mio. Miyako hits harder but seems to go down faster. He's relatively weaker but has tons of hit points. I used Type-61 film and still had to heal several times.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 09-06-2014, 02:49 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default





Here is the Evade function at work: one of the ghosts grabbed Mio and I was able to get away without damage by mashing X.



It doesn't work all the time...



After the battle, Mio writes a final Memo as a coda to the Masumi/Miyako storyline.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Memo: Miyako's End
Masumi and Miyako, who had come looking for him, finally ran into each other in the lost village.

Together, they looked for a way out, but Miyako got hurt and had to be left in the Osaka House.

Masumi went into the Kurosawa House looking for clues, but got killed by the "Kusabi" there.

Miyako, waiting alone in the Osaka House for Masumi, was attacked by his dead spirit.

All she could do was beg to know why as Masumi's ghost spirit began strangling her...
The rest of the house is going to be pretty anticlimactic.

There's a ghost sighting of Miyako in the mosquito net room...





And a cute ghost kid in the rafters upstairs...





He seems to be in the middle of the rafter, but is it really a clipping error if it's a ghost?

The game got annoyed that we were exploring instead of heading straight for the altar room, so sent a random Man In Dark after us.





Still upstairs, there's an object on the floor near some kimonos.



And.... that's all the stalling we can do here. Time to take another look at the altar, which we totes examined the crap out of earlier, but whatever...





HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY MISS THIS

This is a gear-turning style puzzle that doesn't actually exist before you visit Itsuki. The object is to rotate the outer pinwheels so that the colors on the petals that are touching one another match. Rotating an outer pinwheel also moves the center one, however. It has to be done within four turns; failure makes the puzzle reset. Like most puzzles in this game, it can be restarted as often as needed without penalty.





Success!

The passage leads to a staircase to the "cellar", which appears to be a natural cave. Apparently the folklorist made it down here at one point.









This area was used for storage, so there's a lot of stuff we can pick up here!













Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 09-06-2014, 02:51 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default







We needed a cut scene for an empty box?

Mio stands up, turns around, and...







The ghost swings!



And misses!



And continues to flail around blindly!



Mio holds her breath...



And the ghost turns to walk away, dropping a key as it goes.







Mio sighs silently in relief.



And then she accidentally kicks the box. It thumps hollowly.



Did it hear her?



That would be a yes.

Mourners are the spiritual successors (heh, get it?) to Fatal Frame 1's Blinded. Moving or snapping the camera will make them instantly home in on Mio's location, but staying still will confuse them. The difference is that Blinded would basically never find Miku unless by accident if the player didn't move, while Mourners will get wise eventually. The strategy is to snap a shot, run away quickly, then stand still and wait for a zero shot opportunity.





Yes! It's the cell key!





I hope this will be as riveting as the last home movie was.

That's everything down here -- let's go get Mayu!



Miyako comes to say hi when we try to leave the altar room. She's not at all difficult without her boyfriend to run interference.

Heading back to Kurosawa House...







Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 09-06-2014, 02:53 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

Mio is attacked by a Sunken Woman on the big bridge. She's still no real challenge.





And back inside Kurosawa House. The lack of a flashlight isn't anywhere near as crucial as I remembered it being, to be honest.



A pair of Mourners attacks in the basement. It's tricky when attacking one alerts the other one to your presence.



And we're back! Hey Mayu, I've got the key!





The cell is... completely empty. This is seriously not fair.



That writing on the wall wasn't there before.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayu's Note
Itsuki, I'm so sorry.

I want to see you and tell you how sorry I am.

I'm sorry about Chitose, too...




Flashback time! Itsuki peers around a tree while shadowy figures pass by him.











This looks familiar...





Wait... is Sae going to--







--yep.

Sae falls off the embankment with a scream.



Yae looks back in shock...



And the next thing we see is Sae, captured by the village.







Yae Kurosawa never came back. She kept running, escaping the village with the folklorist's assistant, Ryozo Munakata. And if those names sound familiar, it's because they are -- from Fatal Frame 1. Yae married Ryozo and together they had a child named Mikoto before Yae became plagued with ill health. A full-fledged folklorist himself by that time, he decided to both further his research as well as give his wife a healthy rest in the country by purchasing and moving into the Himuro Mansion. There Mikoto found the Camera Obscura, which Yae used until it drove her mad and she eventually ended her own life. Yae and Ryozo are Miku and Mafuyu Hinasaka's great-grandparents.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 09-06-2014, 02:57 PM
Droewyn's Avatar
Droewyn Droewyn is offline
GASP
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 6,767
Default

After the flashback we get to see what Mayu is up to. She's not far...



I guess we should go after her. Again. Sigh. Her charm has been updated with some new mad babbling, too.





A couple Limbo Men attacked on the way back out of the mansion. They went down quickly.



Mio dashes around the corner to where we last saw Mayu in cut scene, once again rubbing our noses in the fact that the in-game running speed is a quarter as fast.





Don't bother, Mayu, we've already been up there. The door's locked.



She's being followed by a g-g-g-ghost!



This is the same spirit list entry as the other Corridor Woman, and much easier to shoot.

And Mayu appears to have made it through the locked door. It must be open now, unless the ghosts are still letting her cheat physics. I bet the ghosts are letting her cheat physics; they always liked her better than me. She gets bigger checks from them at New Years, too.

Well, we'd better go check. On the way we can go see if there's anything important on that film reel.





Well, that was riveting. Oh, well. The bridge access is upstairs.





That's what I thought. Jerk ghosts.

That Broken-Neck Lady is still hanging around, though.



She mostly just advanced and lunged. Her zero shot windows were nice and big, so she went down quickly. Heading back inside triggered another meeting with the folklorist's ghost.





Makabe leaves behind an item.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Folklorist 5
The Kiryu House and the Tachibana House are linked by a connecting corridor and are called the "Twin Houses".

The Twin Shrine Maidens will stay there before the ceremony and are apparently cleansed there too.

During the cleansing they are not allowed to go outside, but they may pass freely between the houses.

The bridge on the 2nd floor of the Tachibana House is called the "Heaven Bridge", and the bridge in the basement of the Kiryu House is called the "Earth Bridge".

The "Earth Bridge" also connects to the passageway below.

The passageway is a natural cave under the village.

At its deepest point lies a forbidden place. Only a certain class of Veiled Priests and people called the Mourners may enter.

It seems that the gate to hell is there and the Forbidden Ritual is actually performed underground.




There's a new Memo about this new information. I think I was wrong about the Memos existing to bring players up to speed in case they missed finding an expository document, because in a lot of cases it's finding the document that triggers the Memo to be written. Maybe it's to have all of the plot summation in a single place in case the player gets confused?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Memo: A Passageway
The cave that spread beneath All God's Village was called a passageway.

It secreted a forbidden place at its deepest point.

Only a few priests and special people called "The Mourners" were allowed to enter this site.
Well, now we've learned that there's another way to get into Tachibana House where Miyu went: through the basement of Kiryu House. We're inside Kiryu House now, but this area is completely locked off from the rest of the house. We'll need to find another way in. This may seem like a radical notion, but what about the front door?







It's locked via mystic seal. Because of course it is.



This is the well near the storehouse. We manage to head over there without incident.





And back to the house....





That was abrupt. No cutscene or boss fight, just walk in the door and Welcome To Chapter Six. Good enough for me!

BORING BEHIND THE SCENES UPDATE: Our camera's basic functions are at full power. I will now focus on upgrading the lenses, starting with Blast.



See you in a couple weeks!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
fatal frame 2 , fatal frame series , halloween , horror , horror games , let's play

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Your posts İyou, 2007