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Old 05-29-2016, 07:41 AM
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Default What is literally happening in Bonnie Tyler's 'Total Eclipse of the Heart?'



Seriously, what is the actual interpretation of what is happening in this video? The nicest interpretation I can come up with is teacher has inappropriate fantasies about her students but even that doesn't explain half of what's going on here.

What were people on in the eighties?
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Old 05-29-2016, 07:53 AM
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I believe that she falling apart because she needs you now tonight, more than ever, and if you were to hold her tight then it could be for forever, and you'd only be making it right because you could never be wrong. I don't know what's going on because I'm in the dark and we're living in a powderkeg and giving off sparks.
Leave it to the bard to question the fine work of Jim Steinman. Did you know that this was almost a song by Meat Loaf, but he passed on it?
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Old 05-29-2016, 08:19 AM
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What were people on in the eighties?
Cocaine.

So do you find the story in "Holding Out For A Hero" self-explanatory?
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Old 05-29-2016, 08:35 AM
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Cocaine.

So do you find the story in "Holding Out For A Hero" self-explanatory?
Yeah, it was the Boss of the Third Street Saints trying to rescue her friend from the over-zealous military.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:53 AM
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Prep school students are non-union, and come with their own costumes. Got to cut costs somewhere.

I'm pretty sure "female psychosexual extravaganza" is my favorite sub-genre of music video, aside from "ZZ Top helps someone get laid."*



*Seriously, though, the Wikipedia sections on the Eliminator trilogy are beautiful.
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Old 05-29-2016, 10:52 AM
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Well, given composer Jim Steinman's usual themes for his songs (the man's songs are Peter Pan Syndrome incarnated in rock opera, with a nice dose of sexual longing on top) I wouldn't be surprised by that or any interpretation of the video.

Remember, this is the man who wrote a five minute duet titled "Dance In My Pants".

He's a genius, is what I'm saying.
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Old 05-29-2016, 01:58 PM
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The internet's increasing refusal to take computers as old as mine into consideration keeps me from actually watching any video clips anymore, but this whole thread is just an elaborate request for someone to link to this, right?

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Old 05-30-2016, 06:14 AM
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Seriously, what is the actual interpretation of what is happening in this video? The nicest interpretation I can come up with is teacher has inappropriate fantasies about her students but even that doesn't explain half of what's going on here.

What were people on in the eighties?
I don't know, but it's fantastic. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
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Old 05-30-2016, 03:18 PM
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Oh, man, I just looked up Jim Steinman's comments about this song:
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with Total Eclipse of the Heart, I was trying to come up with a love song and I remembered I actually wrote that to be a vampire love song. Its original title was Vampires in Love because I was working on a musical of Nosferatu, the other great vampire story. If anyone listens to the lyrics, they're really like vampire lines. It's all about the darkness, the power of darkness and love's place in dark...[6]
Also, the video was shot at a former sanatorium. You know, a home for the insane.

So my new interpretation is that Tyler is a vampire teaching at an all-boys' school, and she can't decide which boys she wants to add to her army of the undead, and which she wants to be her new Renfield. The "bright eyes" reflect her hypnotic power over her students, which she forgot to break before shaking their hands with that older guy.

(This follows Bram Stoker's Dracula rules, so she can survive in daylight.)
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Out of all the songs I think are secretly about vampires, Total Eclipse of the Heart was not among them.

Bless you, Jim Steinman for bringing the sun to a cloudy day!
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Old 05-30-2016, 05:37 PM
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What I love is hearing about hit pop songs being repurposed from musicals or rock operas that never happened. Like how MacArthur Park was originally part of a cantata.
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Oh, man, I just looked up Jim Steinman's comments about this song:
I just wanted you to know that this made my day.
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Old 05-30-2016, 06:24 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out what scholastic function the guys in black pajamas have. Does the school have a Berber club? An order of Hashishins?

Also, I associate the glowing eye thing with Manhunter. It's not a flattering association.
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Old 05-30-2016, 07:04 PM
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Regarding "I Need a Hero"--

Back in the late 90's, when I was in high school, I had a bootleg VHS of old anime music videos. One of them happened to be this song set to various 80's and 90's OVAs--Jojo, Golgo, Wicked City, etc. The shot used for "He's gotta be larger than life"? Giant Robo.

I wish I could find it online.
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What I love is hearing about hit pop songs being repurposed from musicals or rock operas that never happened. Like how MacArthur Park was originally part of a cantata.
Well, in this case it went full circle, because Total Eclipse of the Heart became part of Tanz der Vampire, the musical version of the Dance of the Vampires, although with rewritten lyrics because, you know, German.



The music of this musical was written by Steinman himself, who has never been shy about recycling old material (see also Whistle Down The Wind, which has some familiar Steinman phrases). But, anyway, Totale Finsternis was retranslated again into English when they made the Broadway version, and it finally became the vampire love song it was meant to be.



As an aside, I don't understand a word in Tanz der Vampire, but it is one of my favorite albums.

Also, a funny thing... Listen to this video around 2:15.



Sound familiar? Compare with 2:40 of this song.



Both of these were released in 1997. I'm sure it is a sheer coincidence, and at the time I was very amused, because it was an example of parallel development between two of my favorite composers.
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Old 05-31-2016, 04:23 AM
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Now I have this song lodged in my brain.

THANKS OSOLITAYRE
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:44 AM
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PB, now you've made my day.
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We've already gotten so much more mileage out of this thread than I ever thought possible.
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:29 PM
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That actor playing the Count in the first video is so clearly having the time of his life. At about 2:35, he has this look on his face that says he could win all the awards and be revered the world over, but this is why he became an actor.
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"I have come here to chew scenery and kick ass... and I'm all out of ass"
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I thought I didn't like this song, but I fired up the video and realized I've primarily experienced it through bad karaoke renditions. The original is some raw shit, god damn. An avalanche of crescendoes.
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Bonnie Tyler has a crazy voice. The vast majority of karaoke randos are so far away from that level of talent that it looks like a speck to them. And the double-vision doesn't help.
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Old 06-01-2016, 08:17 PM
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And this song is after she wrecked her voice so hard she needed surgery.
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Nikki French is the superior Total Eclipstress
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Old 06-02-2016, 08:30 AM
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You gonna back that up with proof?
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this thread needs to go to another time

another place

a place where Jim Steinman never fell way the fuck off and recorded those terrible solo records

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Old 06-02-2016, 09:03 AM
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I looked her version up the other night. Not enough rasp or fangs.
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[Streets of Fire]
I clearly need to see this movie.
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Old 06-02-2016, 09:25 AM
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Jim Steinman and Walter Hill's wonder twin powers activated results in something tremendous.
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Watching Streets of Fire isn't always the right thing, but it's rarely the wrong thing
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