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Old 06-05-2018, 02:25 PM
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Or a heist movie. I could do with a heist movie.
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But yeah, I'd be totally down for Heist Princesses.
You guys do know that Ocean's 8 is coming out on Thursday, right?
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:33 PM
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There were, like, fourteen "Ocean's [X]" movies, plus several Italian Jobs and a bunch other heist films. The world can sustain two of them crewed entirely by women
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:41 PM
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I think Buge means, if that's the kind of thing you want, there's one of that kind of thing coming out soon to support.
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:55 PM
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You guys do know that Ocean's 8 is coming out on Thursday, right?
I didn't, actually! This is the first I've heard of it! Thanks for mentioning it; I love heist movies.
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:52 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if they were contractually obligated to show those logos in the trailer as part of the agreement for being able to use them in the movie. I doubt anyone at Disney seriously thought "oh, when they see the logo for that online shopping site, they'll be lining up to buy tickets!"

Or then again, they might. Maybe they can't distinguish between why people would be excited for Zangief and Bowser but not Amazon and whatever.

I doubt it will be a significant factor in the movie, though -- they probably want to save that for stuff they own, hence no Google search (though I am curious now if Disney would want to spin off their own search engine from this).

And I don't think the Disney princesses and Star Wars stuff will play a huge part. Remember Bad Anon in the first one's trailer? And Hero's Duty?

Those were quickly shuffled out and 95% of the rest of the movie was spent in Sugar Rush, so much so that the NAME of the movie in Japan WAS "Sugar Rush."

So I wouldn't sweat anything from this trailer just yet.
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Old 06-07-2018, 01:56 PM
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And I don't think the Disney princesses and Star Wars stuff will play a huge part. Remember Bad Anon in the first one's trailer? And Hero's Duty?
The difference, as I see it, is that Bad Anon is actually relevant to the story at large. It ties into the premise of "the secret lives of video game characters", and in fact shows the plot when Ralph announces he doesn't want to be the bad guy anymore. The scene exists first and foremost to serve the story, not as an excuse to go "hey, remember this?". That it lends itself to cameos is surely intended, but the scene would function just as well— from a story perspective— if they were all parody knock-offs.

I don't see that in the Disney Princess scene. I don't see how a gathering of Disney Princesses relates to "Ralph and Vanellope visit the internet", nor how it furthers the story. It looks like nothing more than a vector to make jokes about the princesses' own movies and tropes, which is why it comes back to "this looks like something that exists purely for brand synergy".

Sure, it's possible this is getting played up for the trailers, in some RPO-inspired directive to just include Things People Recognize. But it's not just the cameos that worry me, it's the lack of any story (or good jokes).
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Old 06-07-2018, 05:26 PM
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the twist: the Disney Princess room is actually Buzzfeed
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:09 AM
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I think the Bad Anon meeting being integral to the plot is probably more a symptom than the cause for it being featured so heavily.
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Old 06-08-2018, 07:28 PM
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I figured since the internet is swamped with "What Disney Princess Are You?" or "Disney princesses reimagined as X" things it will tie into that somehow.

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Yeah this.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:43 AM
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I am ready for some late 90s/early 00s nostalgia, and it looks like this will deliver
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:26 AM
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.......Ok.



This looks a bit better. Hopefully the 'lol internet' jokes will be brushed aside quickly and gritty racer with Vaneloppe vs Gal Gadot takes over.
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:34 AM
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Scottish: it's okay to make racist jokes about them because

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Old 08-11-2018, 10:46 AM
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Yeah, they... could have made a "self-aware" joke about Disney Animation vs Pixar that didn't involve casual racism.
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:57 AM
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Gonna be real I ended up loving the original W-I-R but the last thing I want to see is 90 minutes of Global Powercorp Disney making wry jokes about itself.
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Old 08-11-2018, 02:28 PM
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Gonna be real I ended up loving the original W-I-R but the last thing I want to see is 90 minutes of Global Powercorp Disney making wry jokes about itself.
The movie seems like the disney lego movies. Makes me want to puke
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Old 08-11-2018, 03:23 PM
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Maybe that room with the Disney princesses can keep filling and filling after each new acquisition the company makes, until it explodes from over-occupancy. It'll be like that rabbit from the previous trailer, except with corporate greed instead of pancakes.
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:43 PM
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I'm actually genuinely angry about that Scots accent joke. is that stupid of me?
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Old 08-12-2018, 03:08 PM
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I'm actually genuinely angry about that Scots accent joke. is that stupid of me?
No. It's making fun of someone's ethnicity and belittling them for it.
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Old 08-12-2018, 04:19 PM
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I'm actually genuinely angry about that Scots accent joke. is that stupid of me?
No. Just watched because I was curious and it was worse than I thought it would be.
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Old 08-12-2018, 04:22 PM
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I want her to recruit all the other princesses as drivers and this turns into some amazing Mad Max thing.
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:13 PM
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I want her to recruit all the other princesses as drivers and this turns into some amazing Mad Max thing.
If it turns out this happens, I will watch this, but only if this happens. I give no concern over being spoiled by the outcome of this film, much as how the Emoji Movie gives me no cause to avoid spoilers either and I actively sought out the leaked script for Sausage Party.

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Old 08-15-2018, 08:36 PM
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Scottish: it's okay to make racist jokes about them because

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Because Scots aren't a "race" in that white people from the UK don't get to lay claim to the language and praxis of colonized and marginalized populations after benefiting from centuries of the British Empire laying waste to five continents.

Hope this helps.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:50 PM
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I thought Scotland was itself one of those peoples conquered and subjugated by the British.

And that it's never appropriate for a dominant culture (in this case, white American culture) to belittle foreign ethnic or racial signifiers.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:10 PM
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Regarding trailers vs movies, did anyone notice Coco's trailers had more energetic versions of the movie's shots? It was the "same" shots but with the characters more animated and the line readings more spunky. I wonder if they're doing the same thing here. Not that it would fix problems as big as what we're seeing here, but it could make a bit of a difference.

A couple years ago when I was imagining what a WIR Online would be like, I imagined emulation figuring prominently into the story. Emulation would allow pre-internet characters like Ralph to either be pirated to worthlessness or re-published forever on new platforms, depending how it's used. Emulation could be embodied in a Two Face-like character who would represent both possibilities, and all the old characters entering the internet would come to this character, hoping for the best but not always getting it. Disney is obsessed with copyright elongation and combatting piracy, and making a movie about the two sides of emulation would allow them to express their obsession in a modern context.

Well, whatevs.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:22 PM
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I thought Scotland was itself one of those peoples conquered and subjugated by the British.

And that it's never appropriate for a dominant culture (in this case, white American culture) to belittle foreign ethnic or racial signifiers.
1. Capitalism must be destroyed
2. If the Scots really want to decolonize, they can march their whole fuckin country over to India and get to work on that because they collected a pretty nice dividend on the whole British Empire scene. Until then they can harden the fuck up
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:39 PM
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THREE. Read settlers dot org.
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:07 PM
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I don't think it's controversial to think that mocking a national accent is bad and I'm kind of surprised to see anyone going to bat to defend it
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:43 PM
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Scotland, Ireland, and Wales all got shat on by the real Britons (the Upper Class/Peerage English) so yeah no. All the "Lessers" got out of empire was death on the seas and famine at home.


Edit: all three almost lost their language, culture, and identity. The only reason we have any Gaelic, Cornish, and Welsh speakers left is the sheer tenacity of people who hid themselves.
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:59 AM
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I don't think it's controversial to think that mocking a national accent is bad and I'm kind of surprised to see anyone going to bat to defend it
I'm never surprised to see white people point out how white people are actually marginalized and victimized minorities too, so it balances out.
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:21 AM
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Zef showing up on the side of colonizers was a real swerve tho.

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