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View Poll Results: The Black Omen from Chrono Trigger:
I didn't play Chrono Trigger as a young'un, so my vote doensn't count, but I like clicking buttons! 8 10.26%
It's a tower, and it's always been a tower. 19 24.36%
It's a star destroyer, and it's always been a star destroyer. 30 38.46%
It's a star destroyer, but I sure always saw a dang ol' tower as a kid. 20 25.64%
I always saw a star destoyer, but I'm switching my vote to tower now because I'm wacky. 1 1.28%
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:00 PM
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Someone on NeoGAF made this:





The Omen's shadow indicates the back half is at the same altitude as the front half.
Mt. Woe does the same thing with its shadow, and the interpretation of that is 100% nonsense there. It's just an easy way to do shadows on SNES.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:50 PM
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I'd like to point out that the original image that started all this is disingenuous in regards to the "rear isometric view" of the bridge.



Notice how the two screenshots on top don't have the same aspect ratio? Whoever made the image intentionally cropped the left screen. From what I can tell, this is how the image appears in game:



It's a bit tough to see under the command box but there's no hint of blue or sky along the bottom of the structure the team is fighting on. However, I found this image on a Chrono wiki site showing what's fully stored in the cart for that scene if you ROM hack:



So rather than showing the screen in game, which would neither confirm nor deny the theory, or even showing the full image from the ROM (which the image creator obviously had,) they chose to crop the image to make it appear the player would see the blue only under the "wings" of the bridge, which would appear to extend beyond the edge of the lower decks if one were inclined to view the Omen with a star destroyer shape. Clearly this was not the intention of the production team.

I'd like this particular piece of evidence for the star destroyer theory thrown out and the integrity of its creator questioned.
You could also look at the DS version of the game since it uses the second screen for menus.
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:01 PM
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I can see the star destroyer argument, and that's fine, but I've always seen it as a tower and, since no one can make me think otherwise, I'm happy to continue seeing it as a tower.
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:15 PM
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I'm the 54th vote in a pit poll and the first to choose the wacky option? This is more serious than I thought!
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:27 PM
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it occurs to me

the black omen has escher geometry

who says it can't be both a tower and a star destroyer
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:44 PM
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it's like the necker cube but for hovering harbingers of doom
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:14 PM
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I showed my wife this picture of the Black Omen, out of curiosity of HER thoughts; she'd never played Chrono Trigger, and I wondered how she would interpret it, from a completely fresh perspective.



Well, she was a bit far away from the screen, and her interpretation ended up being an ALL NEW ONE:

She saw the shadow as a big black beard, the Black Omen itself as some sort of luminescent squid-head/ornate headdress, and the landmasses below as the figure's shoulders.
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:34 PM
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I change my vote to this!

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Old 06-07-2017, 05:45 PM
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:54 PM
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That's no moon!

All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu. This is the truth! This is my belief!...At least for now.

It's a tower of power; too sweet to be sour.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:16 PM
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WHOAH-HO-HO-HO-HO

SORT of tempted to make that my avatar, honestly.

My wife also laughed heartily in admiration, for the record.

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Ask her if the two little protrusions at the bottom of the Omen are a nose or a mouth.
I'll ask!

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'Snake mouth with teeth'
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:39 PM
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'Snake mouth with teeth'
Can't really be anything else, really.
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:32 PM
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:58 PM
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Oh Goddess, I can't unsee it!
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Old 06-08-2017, 02:44 AM
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I showed it to ky wife and she pretty much saw the same thing as Deptford's wife.
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Old 06-09-2017, 01:37 PM
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Alright, DEMOCRACY has spoken, and a clear majority of tyrants agree on these two things:

A) It was a tower. (35 - 23)
B) It is now a ship. (42 - 16)

CASE DISMISSED!
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Old 06-09-2017, 01:40 PM
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Alright, DEMOCRACY has spoken, and a clear majority of tyrants agree on these two things:

A) It was a tower. (35 - 23)
B) It is now a ship. (42 - 16)

CASE DISMISSED!
This is Talking Time. You know it's never over.

Black Omen is the new Air Tiki.
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Old 06-09-2017, 01:52 PM
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Alright, DEMOCRACY has spoken, and a clear majority of tyrants agree on these two things:

A) It was a tower. (35 - 23)
B) It is now a ship. (42 - 16)

CASE DISMISSED!
I'll lock the thread now.
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Old 06-09-2017, 05:04 PM
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Old 06-10-2017, 03:19 AM
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Once again, we have been betrayed by democracy.
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Old 06-10-2017, 10:20 AM
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I wonder if this came up in playtesting
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Old 06-10-2017, 12:02 PM
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Its a castle, because its an Ocean Palace.
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