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Old 12-05-2016, 10:04 AM
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I suggest that someone should take the vote results and compile a list of just the top genesis/megadrive games (or even one list for each platform).
That's a great idea! I nominate dosboot for this task.
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Old 12-05-2016, 10:11 AM
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I was thinking...didn't I just watch someone's video on Bart's Nightmare? Oh yeah, it was yours!

I used to play it in the rental store a lot. The particular sensation of popping in a random SNES or NES cart and being baffled by the game is bizarrely nostalgic to me. Bart's Nightmare was one of those types of games.
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:00 AM
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Megaman X was my number 1. I had megaman 3 on my dinky NES and enjoyed it and I had played some MM5, but MMX is just such an incredible jump forward.
- animals vs __man
- all the secrets
- zero
- rockin music
That's what a new generation should feel like: a new reinvention that takes advantage of the new hardware and mashes up the old formula, but still feels like a megaman game.

I love going back to MegaMan X and jumping into it for a while.

FF3(6) was my number 7. I had only played FF1 before 3 (and didn't get very far in 3). What made the original fun was choosing a class and naming our characters. FF3 gave you really compelling characters and you got to watch their stories unfold. As an adult, I've enjoyed it even more.

ActRaiser was my number 8. I didn't play it as a kid, but it is like the perfect game for me. The city building is fun in a simple way. The platforming "feels" really good. I really like the way the sword is carried and the swing arc works for my brain so a jumping slash feels good and is easy to time. I wish there were more mashups with builder type games.

I put obvious top tier games lower on my list. CT at 15, LoZ at 20, SMW at 21 and Metroid at 23. SMW was the only one of those that I played a lot of as a kid. I suck at the cape to this day. CT was the highest of the obvious games because its so good that I just can't push it down but so far.


When its all done, I had 5 games that didn't make the list or honorables:
- F-Zero. I felt like i had to put a racing game on and f-zero is fun, challenging and, fast
- Aladdin (SNES) - this is a game that has physics that really add to the game. You really feel like an agile street rat like from the movie
- Harvest Moon - I like to build, whether its a city or a farm
- Turtles: Tournament Fighter (SNES) - I never really got into fighting games. visits to the arcade were few (about an hour drive) and we would only get a quarter or two. I really liked this game though. Just goes to show how much love of a theme can push across genre lines.
- Mighty Morphin Power Rangers - I liked power rangers about as much as turtles. the game didn't really do anything different, but i thought it was fun
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:00 PM
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What about the gun from Operation Wolf?
I debated whether that or Terminator 2 were the definitive 16-bit gun-based arcade games, but Operation Wolf "feels more" 8-bit, perhaps because of is NES port, so I went with T2.
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:12 PM
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Sorry, I love the Lunar PSX remakes but the Sega CD versions just don't appeal to me at all.
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Isn't the Sega CD version of EB considered the better version?
Yeah, The Silver Star is the one that got overhauled in its remake. The Eternal Blue remake is largely the same and generally worse in the ways it differs from the original.
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:16 PM
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I dunno, exp costs on saving is muy malo, which kind of automatically disqualifies the SCD version.

Really, both versions are riddled with WD's now, er, traditional quirks.
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:33 PM
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Uh-oh...

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Old 12-05-2016, 02:41 PM
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THE SLUGFEST was robbed!
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:54 PM
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I dunno, exp costs on saving is muy malo, which kind of automatically disqualifies the SCD version.
That was a Vic Ireland special, right?
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:58 PM
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Yeppers.
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Old 12-05-2016, 02:59 PM
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He never could figure out that the reason a game was "too easy" was because he'd played through it fifty times. Silhouette Mirage is the same deal, years later.
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Old 12-05-2016, 03:08 PM
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He also screwed up and made Exile II even harder than he meant to:

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You'll probably never reach the end though, at least not without cheating and hex editing the game for infinite health (ironically the only way most US gamers ever saw the boss was through the cover art). For you see, Working Designs made a mistake when tweaking the parameters. As Vic explained on NeoGAF: "On Exile 2 it was an issue of limited number of modifications because we weren't doing the game reprogramming, Telenet was. It was a small number of tries. And on the second-to last time, we had it *almost* right, so we added like +1 to the monsters, but it was like that scene with the fat guy in Meaning of Life where the waiter gives him that one wafer and he explodes. That +1 exceeded some limit internally and made the monsters exponentially harder rather than incrementally. Since it was our last "fix" and we had production discs, I thought we were screwed and had made an unwinnable game. Fortunately, with some time and special strategies, we found out you could finish it. We made one of the hardest games ever - by accident."
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Old 12-05-2016, 03:17 PM
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Uh-oh...
Well! Guess we better start over.
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Old 12-05-2016, 03:20 PM
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Uh-oh...


EDIT: It would have taken spot 34, shoving Evermore out of the Top 50. I'll provide a write-up... somewhere this week. =/
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Old 12-05-2016, 03:20 PM
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I love that Vic Ireland worked so hard to bring so many games over here that we otherwise wouldn't have gotten.

At the same time, I really wish he worked less hard.
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Old 12-05-2016, 04:12 PM
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At the same time, I really wish he worked less hard.
if it makes you feel any better it was mostly his minions working that hard.

Dave Z had fond tales of Vic disappearing into his office for days to play his new Dreamcast and talk shit on Usenet while they were crunching on Silver Star Story.

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It would have taken spot 34, shoving Evermore out of the Top 50. I'll provide a write-up... somewhere this week. =/
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NEVER

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Old 12-05-2016, 08:45 PM
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I suggest that someone should take the vote results and compile a list of just the top genesis/megadrive games
As you wish.

Placement, Overall Placement, Name, Points, Mentions
  1. 12,Gunstar Heroes,147,12
  2. 18,Sonic The Hedgehog 2,98,8
  3. 24,Rocket Knight Adventures,87,5
  4. 27,Castlevania: Bloodlines,79,5
  5. 28,Street Fighter II Turbo,77,5
  6. 33,Sonic 3 & Knuckles,70,4
  7. 34,Street Fighter II,69,4
  8. 36,Phantasy Star IV,68,5
  9. 37,Sonic The Hedgehog,67,5
  10. 40,Streets Of Rage 2,62,5
  11. 42,Shinobi III,61,6
  12. 43,Contra: Hard Corps,60,5
  13. 46,Alien Soldier,56,4
  14. 47,Monster World IV,54,5
  15. 49,Sonic CD,53,3
  16. 52,Snatcher,50,4
  17. 53,Mortal Kombat II,50,3
  18. 56,Sunset Riders,49,5
  19. 57,NBA Jam TE,47,4
  20. 61,Shining In The Darkness,43,3
  21. 65,Out Of This World,39,3
  22. 66,The Lost Vikings,39,3
  23. 93,M.U.S.H.A.,35,1
  24. 68,Flashback,34,2
  25. 69,Shining Force,33,3
  26. 70,Super Street Fighter II,32,3
  27. 73,Comix Zone,31,3
  28. 74,Lunar,31,2
  29. 79,Rock 'N Roll Racing,29,2
  30. 80,Dynamite Headdy,28,2
  31. 81,Shining Force 2,28,2
  32. 82,Uncharted Waters: New Horizons,28,2
  33. 83,Aerobiz Supersonic,27,2
  34. 86,Aladdin [Genesis],26,2
  35. 88,Zombies Ate My Neighbors,26,2
  36. 89,Phantasy Star II,25,2
  37. 90,Samurai Shodown II,25,2
  38. 91,Alisia Dragoon,25,1
  39. 94,Mystery Dungeon,25,1
  40. 96,Soleil,25,1
  41. 98,NBA Jam,24,3
  42. 99,Landstalker,24,1
  43. 103,Ranger-X,23,1
  44. 104,Super Off Road,23,1
  45. 105,Kid Chameleon,22,2
  46. 108,Mega Bomberman,21,1
  47. 109,Michael Jackson's Moonwalker,21,1
  48. 110,Road Rash II,21,1
  49. 111,Soul Star,21,1
  50. 115,General Chaos,20,1
  51. 116,Herzog Zwei,20,1
  52. 119,Samurai Shodown,19,2
  53. 121,Sub-Terrania,19,1
  54. 122,Mortal Kombat,18,2
  55. 123,Gaiares,18,1
  56. 124,Thunder Force IV,18,1
  57. 127,Mega Turrican,17,1
  58. 128,NHL 96,17,1
  59. 129,Star Trek TNG,17,1
  60. 130,Xardion,17,1
  61. 131,Fatal Fury 2,16,2
  62. 133,NHL 94,16,2
  63. 134,Aero The Acro-Bat,16,1
  64. 141,Dashin' Desperadoes,15,1
  65. 142,Earthworm Jim [Snes],15,1
  66. 146,Sonic 3,14,1
  67. 148,Vectorman,14,1
  68. 150,Ecco The Dolphin,13,2
  69. 152,Lunar: Eternal Blue,13,1
  70. 154,Granada,12,1
  71. 157,Mortal Kombat 3,12,1
  72. 159,Tiny Toon Adventures [Genesis],12,1
  73. 161,Parasol Star,11,1
  74. 162,Rolling Thunder 2,11,1
  75. 166,Gain Ground,10,1
  76. 168,Phantasy Star III,10,1
  77. 169,The Adventures Of Willy Beamish,10,1
  78. 171,Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure [Sega Cd],9,1
  79. 172,Ristar,9,1
  80. 174,The Lion King,9,1
  81. 175,Wonder Boy In Monster World,9,1
  82. 177,Doom,8,1
  83. 178,Shadowrun [Genesis],8,1
  84. 180,Thunder Force III,8,1
  85. 181,Ys III,8,1
  86. 184,Streets Of Rage,7,1
  87. 185,Sword Of Vermillion,7,1
  88. 186,Wings Of Wor,7,1
  89. 189,James Pond 3,6,1
  90. 194,The Adventures Of Batman & Robin [Genesis],6,1
  91. 202,Popful Mail,5,1
  92. 204,Batman Returns,4,1
  93. 205,Cannon Fodder,4,1
  94. 206,Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine,4,1
  95. 211,Silpheed,4,1
  96. 213,World Of Illusion,4,1
  97. 215,Ghostbusters [Genesis],3,1
  98. 216,Micro Machines,3,1
  99. 217,Primal Rage,3,1
  100. 220,The Chaos Engine (Soldiers of Fortune),3,1
  101. 221,Trouble Shooter,3,1
  102. 222,Whip Rush,3,1
  103. 223,AH-3 Thunderstrike,2,1
  104. 224,Bart's Nightmare,2,1
  105. 229,WWF Royal Rumble,2,1
  106. 230,Castle Of Illusion,1,1
  107. 232,Earthworm Jim 2,1,1
  108. 234,Home Alone [Genesis],1,1
  109. 238,Mickey Mania,1,1
  110. 239,Sagaia,1,1

Musha Aleste's two mentions were split between "M.U.S.H.A." and "Musha". Adding the two significantly boosted its rank, to the point where it's the highest ranking shmup on the system (it still fell short of the top 50). I think Lunar might be similarly split between "Lunar" and "Lunar: Eternal Blue", but I lack the familiarity with the series necessary to make that call.

Only 30% of the top 50 consisted of Genesis games, compared to the 46% of the overall noms. In other words, we like Genesis games, but their are fewer games for the system that are exceptionally popular (amongst us, at least). A single high-ranking mention was enough to get into the top 50 for the Genesis.

I kept Earthworm Jim [SNES] on the list because I could.
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Old 12-06-2016, 12:27 AM
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Ahahaha fuck off Evermore, you're shit

more like Secret of Nevermore
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Old 12-06-2016, 05:37 AM
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For the record, I'm the guy who wrote in the (full, correct) title of KOF98 including "the".
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:34 AM
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I feel so much better about this list knowing that KoF 98 actually made it on.
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:35 AM
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For the record, I'm the guy who wrote in the (full, correct) title of KOF98 including "the".
I mean, if this is the throwdown we're having, I note that all 5 entries are apparently missing an apostrophe.
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:47 AM
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Yeah well I don't put the periods in FEAR or STALKER either
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:39 AM
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Hey! C'mon, c'mon!
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:43 AM
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:47 AM
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And still nobody remembered Biohazard Battle!
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Old 12-06-2016, 10:11 AM
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Holy SHIT Geezer!
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:59 AM
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He also screwed up and made Exile II even harder than he meant to:
i propose "add +1 to the monsters" as the new/old "tighten up the graphics"
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Old 12-06-2016, 02:25 PM
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Holy SHIT Geezer!
This reminds me that one of the things I love most about Mark of the Wolves is how certain iconic moves are symbolically passed along from the older generation of characters to the younger. Most iconically with how Rock Howard combines Geese's PREDICTABOO counter throw with Terry's Crack Shoot
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:05 AM
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I have no idea what the deal is with any of the SNK characters but I always enjoy watching them do their thing
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