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Old 10-02-2017, 11:38 PM
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His previous movie is also directly about sex. It's called Shivers and it's about parasites that travel between people when they make out. The parasites don't do much except make your libido go insane and want to have sex with everyone, thereby making the entire population sex crazed. So yes, Rabid is also a commentary about sex, though I barely remember it and at first when I read your posts I got it confused with another of his movies titled The Brood. Which is also about women.
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Old 10-03-2017, 08:46 AM
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The pilot of From Dusk 'til Dawn was, weirdly, both good and disappointing. Judging from it, and a brief look at episode summaries from later in the season, it seems to be a loose retelling of the movie, just stretched out to fill ten episodes.

After a cold-open involving an Aztec priest snake-murdering someone as part of a ritual back in old-times, the episode focuses on notorious bank robbers The Gecko Brothers (one is cool, the other dresses cool but is crazy) stop off at a liquor store but get held up when things go all Resevoir Dogs on them.

As is appropriate to the source material, there's little-if-anything to suggest this is a tale of boogens and goolies in the first episode; save for Crazy Brother periodically having (periodically sexy) prophetic visions about monsters, the focus is mainly on the hostage situation when Crazy Brother decides to escalate a brief snack-run with two police officers in the same store.

The whole thing was compelling enough that I was kept absorbed in the story, but I also kept asking when they're going to get to the fireworks factory.
Fireworks, in this case, referring to vampires.

I rate it a Neckbolt out of a possible Frankenstein.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:00 AM
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The first episode is the strongest, sadly enough.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:10 AM
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was able to begin rewatching Ash vs. The Evil Dead.
My man. Ash Vs. Evil Dead is some good stuff, and does a great job of recapturing the gorey magic of honest-to-goodness R-rated horror from the 80s.

Also, season 2 is balls-out crazy.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:26 AM
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I eagerly anticipate getting there. The whole of episode 2 is just sublime bit of horror/comedy.

And eventually the series finally turns around and shows you what the Camera Monster is, and, yup, everyone's been reacting to it properly.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:47 AM
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The pilot of From Dusk 'til Dawn was, weirdly, both good and disappointing. Judging from it, and a brief look at episode summaries from later in the season, it seems to be a loose retelling of the movie, just stretched out to fill ten episodes.

After a cold-open involving an Aztec priest snake-murdering someone as part of a ritual back in old-times, the episode focuses on notorious bank robbers The Gecko Brothers (one is cool, the other dresses cool but is crazy) stop off at a liquor store but get held up when things go all Resevoir Dogs on them.

As is appropriate to the source material, there's little-if-anything to suggest this is a tale of boogens and goolies in the first episode; save for Crazy Brother periodically having (periodically sexy) prophetic visions about monsters, the focus is mainly on the hostage situation when Crazy Brother decides to escalate a brief snack-run with two police officers in the same store.

The whole thing was compelling enough that I was kept absorbed in the story, but I also kept asking when they're going to get to the fireworks factory.
Fireworks, in this case, referring to vampires.

I rate it a Neckbolt out of a possible Frankenstein.
Oh. I thought you were talking about the movie...
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To my disappointment, that is not on Netflix.
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Wolf Creek is definitely about werewolves though, right?
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Wolf Creek is definitely about werewolves though, right?
no.

Dog Soldiers is though!
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Getting real sick of people naming their movies things that should clearly be werewolf movies.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:33 PM
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To my disappointment, that is not on Netflix.
It was on Hulu when I watched it last year (but that may not be an option for you)
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The Loved Ones (the Australian teen horror, I presumed, is there another one?) appeared twice on the list, #24 and #27.
I went outside the original list to swap in a replacement for #27.
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Getting real sick of people naming their movies things that should clearly be werewolf movies.
Next year's list:
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  • An American Werewolf in London
  • Teen Wolf
  • The Howling
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Old 10-03-2017, 05:21 PM
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Rabid -

BUT, it gets worse! The people she pokes get super rabies! They just have to bite someone and then once they do they go into a coma and die.
I watched this a couple years back the old-fashioned "get a disc from Netflix" way, and Cronenberg's commentary track is kind of magical. The bit that stays with me is him claiming the movie came to be when he was riding the subway during rush hour and thought "What would happen if I just got up and took a bite out of that guy's ear. Look at that ear. What a biteable ear."

He also passingly alludes to the separatist political messages in Québécois softcore porn films of the late '70s.

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I told Mrs. Match about it at lunch, and she said, "Who comes up with these ideas? That just sounds dumb."
Even the director agrees! On another part of the commentary he says that at one point during filming he was suddenly struck by how silly the entire premise was and his producer had to talk him out of just giving up on the whole thing.
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Old 10-03-2017, 05:22 PM
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Cronenberg's early movies are...not great.
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Wolf Creek - I thought for sure with a name like 'Wolf Creek' that I'd be watching a werewolf movie this time! Alas, I did not?!

A small sidebar here, if you dear reader would permit me? Stop putting the word Wolf, or Hunter, or Rabies, or other canine-related words in your title if it isn't going to be about WEREWOLVES! You are filthy liars. And I hate you. Stop banking on the universal appeal of supernatural wolf people to get me to watch your slasher flick! End sidebar.

So, Wolf Creek takes place in Australia (where I might add there are NO wolves) and is about a road trip that goes horribly wrong for three sexy, sexy teens. This might sound familiar to you because it is almost the premise of every slasher film you have ever seen. If you guessed correctly after reading that sentence that Wolf Creek is Texas Chainsaw Massacre - Australia Edition you win a prize.

The filming is quite lovely. There are some beautiful interstitial shots of the Australian countryside. And some stunning footage of a complete solar eclipse that has nothing to do with anything but sure is breathtaking.

Anyway, two of the teens die and in a trope twist, it is the young man who lives to tell the tale this time. His two lady teen companions having been killed by whatever the Australian equivalent of a killer hillbilly is.

The moral of the story is don't go to Australia. You'll end up eaten by a croc, or bitten by a spider, or a drop-bear will get you. The entire continent is just crawling with things that don't like humans much.

Oh, and the killer hillbillies, I guess. Probably get eaten by a great white first though...

I give this film five kangaroos out of 10. Because in all that interstitial footage I only ever saw five of the bouncy things.
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Wolf Creek - Yep, this one doesn't have werewolves. I have something sad to tell you about tomorrow's movie, Flawgic...

Agreed that the look of the movie is great. The actor who played the killer, Mick, was incredibly creepy. IMDB claims he spent fourth months perfecting his creepy little laugh, and I'd believe it. Overall, I liked it.

There was one sequence where one of the women has circled back to get a new car to try to get away. She rifles the killer's killing shed and grabs a weapon (that's good!) and then proceeds to get distracted by the pile of stuff the killer has acquired from the various unfortunates who have come before her including looking through a box of videocameras and actually watching some of the tapes (that's bad).
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Wolf Creek - Yep, this one doesn't have werewolves. I have something sad to tell you about tomorrow's movie, Flawgic...

Agreed that the look of the movie is great. The actor who played the killer, Mick, was incredibly creepy. IMDB claims he spent fourth months perfecting his creepy little laugh, and I'd believe it. Overall, I liked it.

There was one sequence where one of the women has circled back to get a new car to try to get away. She rifles the killer's killing shed and grabs a weapon (that's good!) and then proceeds to get distracted by the pile of stuff the killer has acquired from the various unfortunates who have come before her including looking through a box of videocameras and actually watching some of the tapes (that's bad).
Yeah, our sexy teens made a number of decisions I feel no one would make in real life. Including not finishing the job after they had shot Mick in the neck. She thumps him twice on the back with the butt of the rifle. But his head is right there... And the table full of weapons is also right there!

It was also bad that she dropped the weapon into the well(?) why did she even go in there?! She was looking for a car!

I was also a little confused how they found their way back to the complex after driving randomly around in the dark trying to get away.

The only other thing that bothered me was that both Lizzy and Mick decided on the exact same car! She never heard his other car approach. Or the door open, or the car door open, and he just happened to pick the one she would try first! I know this is standard trope stuff but it bugs a little.

It was fun.
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Old 10-04-2017, 12:01 AM
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I have something sad to tell you about tomorrow's movie, Flawgic...
How can a movie titled SHE WOLF of London not have a werewolf in it!?

You're killing me here!
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I was disappointed in not being able to find the movies I was looking for on Netflix last night, so instead I watched Zombie Nightmare, starring Adam West, Tia Carrare and nobody else of consequence. It's a film in which a sports hero/doting son/vigilante crime fighter/owner of inexplicable shirts gets killed in a hit and run so his mother, as you do, contacts a voodoo priestess to resurrect him as a ZOMBIE REVENGE MACHINE. And what follows is 90 minutes of scenes totally unrelated to the plot as a Zomboman ambles after them and murders them with a baseball bat.

Shocking twist at the end is that Police Chief Adam West was dragging his feet on the case because he knew allll about the voodoo zombie crimewave affecting his city of "Anytown, Canada". He knew the local voodoo priestess and her ability to summon Revenge Zombies, and she has a personal beef with him, so he was going to wait until this zombie ran out of steam after getting committing too many murders and then arresting her for... err... voodoo crimes? So she summons some more revenge zombies, fresh out of the crypt, and they eat him instead.

The movie also had a weird framing device about a guy in a satellite watching all these events with his robot friends, and mostly making fun of the dialogue and characters. They didn't seem very important to the plot, but they were also by far the most enjoyable part of the film.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:20 AM
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Adam West is so tired in that movie.

Anyway, slasher is an interesting genre because it's so rigid. You really can't do much to subvert it before it ceases to be a slasher. Tarantino has said as much, and that's one reason why he's considered making one, but changed his mind. (Death Proof is probably the closest, and it's one of my favorite films.
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Anyway, slasher is an interesting genre because it's so rigid. You really can't do much to subvert it before it ceases to be a slasher. Tarantino has said as much, and that's one reason why he's considered making one, but changed his mind. (Death Proof is probably the closest, and it's one of my favorite films.
Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon is very Scream-esque in that it lampshades slasher tropes while indulging in them. It has a very by-the-numbers final act, but it's still a fun movie worth a watch.
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The weird thing is that martial law was actually declared in Montreal in 1970 as a result of the October Crisis. Not sure why Cronenberg decided to reuse that idea for his film 7 years later.
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Cronenberg's early movies are...not great.
wrong!

Though there is an increase of radness.

SHivers and Rabid are merely interesting.

Brood - Videodrome - Scanners are all incredible.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:28 AM
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Still haven't seen Brood.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:41 AM
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Somehow managed to go twenty one years without seeing Scream, so now I've decided to break that streak by watching Scream.

The concept of a horror movie antagonist obsessed with horror movie tropes is a very good one, but it's pretty late into the film before that becomes a focus. Prior to that the focus is on the fact that teenagers are the real monsters. Because, holy cripes, was almost the entire cast unlikeable.

I liked the backhalf of the film a lot, but the first half dragggggged.

I rate it a Boo out of a Possible Boogums
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The Drew Barrymore bait 'n' switch was a big deal back in the day. That entire opening sequence is amazing.
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Did anyone besides Matchstick and myself watch Wolf Creek?
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Me!

like 10 years ago. I found it really disturbing. That head on a stick line was insane.
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like 10 years ago. I found it really disturbing. That head on a stick line was insane.
Yeah, Mick was really creepy. The actor did a great job.
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