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Old 02-20-2016, 04:47 PM
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"I should quote this terrifically terrible passage!"

*never actually quotes passage*
Do you know how hard it is to find a specific terrible passage in a terrible book you read 15 years ago?
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Old 02-20-2016, 05:13 PM
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Do you know how hard it is to find a specific terrible passage in a terrible book you read 15 years ago?
no actually; i have never read a book
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Old 02-20-2016, 05:42 PM
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Don't, they are mostly terrible.
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Old 02-23-2016, 09:45 AM
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Once you realize that The Secret is a book, it kind of casts a pall over the entire medium.
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Old 02-24-2016, 02:56 AM
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Alright, I can do Heinlein. From Starship Troopers, the chapter about how great capital punishment is:

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"Mr. Dubois," a girl blurted out, "but why? Why didn't they spank little kids when they needed it and use a good dose of the strap on any older ones who deserved it -- the sort of lesson they wouldn't forget! I mean ones who did things really bad. Why not?"

"I don't know," he had answered grimly, "except that the time-tested method of instilling social virtue and respect for law in the minds of the young did not appeal to a pre-scientific pseudo-professional class who called themselves 'social workers' or sometimes 'child psychologists.' It was too simple for them, apparently, since anybody could do it, using only the patience and firmness needed in training a puppy. I have sometimes wondered if they cherished a vested interest in disorder -- but that is unlikely; adults almost always act from conscious 'highest motives' no matter what their behavior."

"But -- good heavens!" the girl answered. "I didn't like being spanked any more than any kid does, but when I needed it, my mama delivered. The only time I ever got a switching in school I got another one when I got home -- and that was years and years ago. I don't ever expect to be hauled up in front of a judge and sentenced to a flogging; you behave yourself and such things don't happen. I don't see anything wrong with our system; it's a lot better than not being able to walk outdoors for fear of your life -- why that's horrible!"
This is, of course, a part of a lecture in the "History and Moral Philosophy" class the main character attends, which I think is one of the most hilariously obvious ways for a science fiction author to simply ramble on about their personal views in a novel. Remember, raising a child is just like raising a puppy.

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Maybe I got to it too late, but I read Stranger in a Strange Land and thought it was insufferably preachy and heavy-handed right out the gate and never bothered picking up another of his books. Fuck Heinlein.
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Old 02-25-2016, 05:52 PM
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Maybe I got to it too late, but I read Stranger in a Strange Land and thought it was insufferably preachy and heavy-handed right out the gate and never bothered picking up another of his books. Fuck Heinlein.
I read it when I was 18 and thought it was the bee's knees, so I imagine age has something to do with one's opinion of Heinlen's work.
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Old 02-25-2016, 07:12 PM
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I read Starship Troopers expecting a satire on militarism and didn't find out until much later that he's actually serious.
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Old 02-25-2016, 07:21 PM
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The best thing is that The movie is in on the joke that Heinlen wasn't telling.
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Oh, and by the way.

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Wraeththu by Storm Constantine would be a treasure trove of horrible quotes. But after reading the first book in a collection, and finding out it was gay sci fi porn with pseudo-mystical bullshit mixed in for good measure, I throw the book away.
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I read it when I was 18 and thought it was the bee's knees, so I imagine age has something to do with one's opinion of Heinlen's work.
"The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."
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I thought that applied more to the author than the audience, honestly.
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Maybe I got to it too late, but I read Stranger in a Strange Land and thought it was insufferably preachy and heavy-handed right out the gate and never bothered picking up another of his books. Fuck Heinlein.
You have no idea how happy I am to see this expressed somewhere. I read it in high school and hated it for the same reasons, but I can almost never find anything but praise for it.
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:12 AM
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Alright, I can do Heinlein. From Starship Troopers, the chapter about how great capital punishment is:



This is, of course, a part of a lecture in the "History and Moral Philosophy" class the main character attends, which I think is one of the most hilariously obvious ways for a science fiction author to simply ramble on about their personal views in a novel. Remember, raising a child is just like raising a puppy.
I don't know, my favorite example is still the part in Jurassic Park where Ian, who is dying in a coma, wakes up just long enough to deliver a chapter-long speech about how there's no such thing as global warming, and then, having finished, immediately resumes his coma.
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