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Confirmed by TMZ. I don't have anything to add at the moment, I just didn't want to see a thread with "Nuff Said" or something like that.
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Rest in Peace, Stan.

You made a difference in a lot of important ways.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:53 AM
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Rest in Peace, Stan.

You made a difference in a lot of important ways.
That's about as well as I could put it. He will be missed.
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I knew this was coming sooner rather than later but it still stings. Thanks for everything, Stan.
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Dang. Hope they can put in a good tribute to him in "Infinitier War"
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:59 AM
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Shit. I think we knew it wasn't far off but I need time to process this.
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After reading this Daily Beast interview last month, it felt like he was getting close. At least his last days were presumably happier ones. Rest in peace.
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Farewell Mr. Lee. You're a cameo in heaven now.
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:36 PM
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:38 PM
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Stan Lee will be missed. There are elements about him that are troublesome (a sexual harassment allegation that bubbled up a year or two ago, the fact that he was pretty negligent in standing up for his peers) but I still can't not love Stan, despite his flaws. He was just an incredibly charming dude and while it is unclear EXACTLY how much of the Marvel Universe he made up, I feel like his attitude still runs through the DNA of Marvel in a good way.
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'Nuff said.
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Stan's last cameo was in a DC movie... Did not expect that.
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Stan's last cameo was in a DC movie... Did not expect that.
Which movie is that? I thought it was going to be Av4.
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Just processing this today, at work, not getting any work done. He helped to return the comics medium to it's rightful place as part of respected, mainstream media; even as he diminished the work of the artists who created those stories. He was warm and sincere, even when lying through his teeth. He took advantage of others, and was himself taken advantage of.

There was a story I read about him ages ago that sums up how I feel about the man. Before Marvel, when it was still Timely comics, the industry was in a major slump. Stan had kept staff on, commissioning stories that he knew may never see print, to keep the artists paid during the lean times. Enough pages to fill entire filing cabinets. When the publisher found out about this, he hit the roof. All staff was fired, and any new material was produced strictly on a freelance basis. Jack Kirby had vowed never to work with them again. John Romita wouldn't return for another decade. Stan Lee managed to woo them back.

The problem is, I can't tell if the ending to this story is a good one or not.
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Which movie is that? I thought it was going to be Av4.
Well, the most recent at least.

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Old 11-12-2018, 01:18 PM
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The problem is, I can't tell if the ending to this story is a good one or not.
I feel like it's complicated. There's a lot of good in it and bad. Though, I mean all stories of people end with their death and that's arguably pretty bad.

Anyway, based on "Marvel: The Untold Story", Stan seemed like an "out of sight, out of mind" kind of guy. He rarely hesitated to commend the artists but that was often when the issue of the artist was brought up. And in the 70's, he was too busy trying to get in with Hollywood to really be aware that while he was being treated like a big deal, the people who helped him build Marvel were being treated pretty shabbily. And that's unfortunate. I don't think it makes him a bad guy but unfortunately, he could have been a better ones when his peers needed him.
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As for when his actual last cameo will be, it's my understanding that they recently filmed a block of them at once, so they're presumably set through at least Avengers 4, if not further.
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I don't think it makes him a bad guy but unfortunately, he could have been a better ones when his peers needed him.
I can't really bring myself to say he was a bad guy, but I wonder how Jack Kirby's family would feel about that.
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Stan Lee will be missed. There are elements about him that are troublesome (a sexual harassment allegation that bubbled up a year or two ago, the fact that he was pretty negligent in standing up for his peers) but I still can't not love Stan, despite his flaws. He was just an incredibly charming dude and while it is unclear EXACTLY how much of the Marvel Universe he made up, I feel like his attitude still runs through the DNA of Marvel in a good way.
That sums things up for me too.

Canít say his passing is a shock, but itís still not something I was expecting.
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I knew this was coming sooner rather than later but it still stings. Thanks for everything, Stan.
Yeah. I had a feeling he probably wouldn't be around much longer given just how long he's been around. Guy was 95 years old, and about a month away from turning 96.
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Old 11-12-2018, 01:51 PM
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I can't say I'm shocked, and he lived a long and full life, but this is still a huge bummer.

Excelsior, Mr. Lee.
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Old 11-12-2018, 01:52 PM
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Tom Spurgeon is my soul brother:

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I think Lee also perfected a way for fans to extend their relationships with a certain kind of comics story by presenting a second story marking their creation, with the comics' creators replacing the characters on the page as the heroes of the narrative. Eight-year-old Marvel readers wanted to be Spider-Man. 16-year-old Marvel readers wanted to be the guy drawing Spider-Man. Lee found a way to wink at readers that never felt like he was making fun of any potential serious devotion to the narratives.

It's also noteworthy that Lee had a hosting function with the work that unlike Walt Disney's similar efforts had to push against dismissive and disdainful attitudes about the material itself. As a kid in the 1970s with no comics-reading friends, it felt like Stan Lee was sticking up for me.

I could go on forever, and probably will. Lee's reluctance to advocate for his artists as co-creators isn't comics' original sin but is perhaps its most unnecessary and therefore extra-troubling. His not-unique orientation towards film and TV as a legitimizing force has had a unique ripple effect, not all of it good. His last years had significant elements of personal tragedy. There are lessons in those last three decades for every creator of anything.
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(Amazing Spider-Man #92)
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Way to keep politics out of comics, Stan.
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JJJ always was morally complex.
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He had so many more stories to tell...
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