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To Infinity and Beyond: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

That first shot sure did give me some intense vertigo! But the trailer looks amazing! It definitely looks like somewhat of a darker story with the Man-Spider stuff.

That scene with Spidey and Frank was my favorite part, hopefully he sticks around for a good part of the movie.
 
One of my favorite Spider-Man story formulas is Spidey caught in a gang war. This is because the villains arent directly after Spidey but he becomes a random element for both sides and Spidey doesn't really know what's exactly go8ng on but he just needs to butt in to this other story to save innocent bystanders.
 
It's been kinda wild to see The Discourse/memes on that trailer evolve over the last few days. Going from, "Wow! New Spider-Man! Looks great!" to, "Omg, Peter is depressed, fallen on hard times, and has no friends, WE ARE SO BACK," to, "Maybe Green Goblin was right all along."
 
There is so much STUFF happening in that trailer I have no fucking idea how they're going to fit it into the basic shape of "a movie".
 
The Disney M.O. of white washing traditionally counterculture and antifascist heroes into corporate mouthpieces is not "flabby and directionless" -- it's a calculated and malicious assault on American culture and values. Seeking to bury and erase progressive calls to action with apologia to our corporate police state.
 
One Last Kill sucks.

If your only requirement for a good Punisher story is that you want to see Frank kill a bunch of people then I guess this is the Special Presentation for you, but I was bored out of my mind. There's nothing here to spoil but I'll be courteous anyway.

There's a scene in Beau is Afraid (2023) where Beau walks out of his apartment building into the street, and it's just an absolute nightmare hellscape of people screaming and losing their minds and murdering each other. It's played for laughs because it's so outrageously awful. One Last Kill is just that scene, played straight, for its entire running time. I felt embarrassed watching it.

Oh shit, here comes a guy with a knife. Better kill him. Oh no now there's a guy with a gun. Kill him too. Frank look out there's a guy with an axe. Oh no now here comes another guy with a knife. I sure hope Frank can kill this guy. Phew, he did it. This is so exciting. Oh no now there's a

Oh, but look, there's a smiling little girl calmly handing Frank a flower amidst the carnage. She just watched a dozen maniacs break into her family's store and try to tear her and her parents apart, and watched Frank stab a man eighteen hundred times, but she's just smiling placidly up at him. Do you see the juxtaposition between the violence of the adult world and the innocence of youth? Do you appreciate the deep metaphhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Anyway look forward to the exciting return of Frank Castle in Spider-Man: Brand New Day, only in theaters July 31
 
You CAN make absolutely gripping film out of a dude just steamrolling 500 dudes (HI JOHN WICK) but it sounds like this ain't it. Thank you for biting the bullet for us Vaeran.
 
I will say I was also bored by John Wick, so maybe this is a Me problem.
 
They're not for everyone, but they are the standard I hold "6 busloads of dudes getting merc'd" movies to.
 
I didn't  dislike One Last Kill, but it was also completely unimportant in basically any way that matters to the broader MCU. Like if any of the broader context of all the chaos happening in his neighborhood meant anything at all or was part of any kind of overarching story, it could have been more interesting. Or if there was any sort of more established character arc happening with Frank Castle... his cameo in Born Again was pretty minimal and so with this story being his reintroduction it's just a bit... weird to do it that way.
 
I had a dream last night that I was watching Doomsday in the theater and it was boring as shit. The whole thing was just people standing around explaining the plot back and forth to each other and nothing ever actually happened.

Anyway see it exclusively in theaters this December
 
God, the constantly changing Intro based on whose in which episode is next level this season.

Making a prediction now;



Twice now, Professor X has fully submerged himself into a bad guys psyche in order to get them to do something and in the most recent episode, the astral plane he went to had a giant distorted magneto helmet and someone talking *like* Apocalypse but who had a different voice.

I think we’re getting Onslaught, if not before this seasons over, then next season
 
Kind of a nothingburger. I thought the X-Men/mutant shots were kinda neat but the rest of it was whatever. The return of Steve Rogers didn't do much for me.

It appeared to me like the voiceover at the beginning was Doom himself, which implies there is some other threat that isn't Doom? I dunno, I don't read comics.
 
I suspect the next trailer will be proper story trailer, but yeah that was quite limp (especially compared to the Infinity War trailer).

Apparently this is the first half of another duology, which I didn't realize until the other day.

I hope Doctor Doom puts an end to this multiverse storytelling nonsense.
 
Serious-Man: Sad New Day is not what I want out of a Spider-Man movie. It's fine for a film to have Themes and to tackle Issues, but not at the expense of entertaining me. I go these movies to have fun, but tonight I left the theater in a bad mood. I felt drained, tired and sad. Don't take your kids to this one.

I felt a lot of trepidation at the end of No Way Home, wondering how they're going to resolve everyone having forgotten about Peter. The answer is that he becomes a miserable recluse for four long years, watching his former friends' lives from the outside and being completely unable to move on. I think it's kind of darkly funny that everybody wanted MCU Spidey to move out of the shadow of Tony Stark, and yet here he's built a conversational AI for his suit because he literally has no one else to talk to. (How's he afford all that stuff, anyway?) I suppose people will point to the crowd outside the hospital at the end and say "see? Peter has people who love him." No he doesn't. In the memory scene, Aunt May tells him "the people who love you don't love you because you're special. They love you because you're you." New York loves Spider-Man because he's special, and because he does good things for them. He doesn't have anyone who loves him for being Peter Parker, and that's crushingly sad.

When they get around to the eventual X-Men films, it's going to be a little awkward to remember that heroic Jean Grey spent the first two-thirds of this movie being a gleeful sadist before they pulled a hard right turn into trying to make her sympathetic for the third act. What part of racing Peter to MJ's place to murder her helps her find her sister? When she possesses MJ and pretends to remember Peter, he tells her that if she ever had someone she really cared about, she'd know that's an unforgivable act. I love it when my heroes do cruel, unforgivable things for no discernible reason.

Did the movie ever explain why Peter is immune to Jean's telepathy? At first I just went "oh, I guess it's Spidey Sense, or whatever" but then she's psychically frozen everyone for a square mile and he's walking around like it ain't no thing. Okay.

Frank was fun. And it was nice seeing Yelena and Banner again, though you could have removed them both from the plot and it wouldn't have changed anything. Banner doesn't tell Peter anything he hasn't already figured out on his own, and then later we get some generic Hulk Smash to further pad out an already too-long movie.

Peter: Does your inhibitor work by blah blah blah science science science?
Banner: Yeah.
Peter: Theoretically, could someone super-science the DNA into a double-decomfribulated reverse jiggedyloop?
Banner: Uh, maybe.
Peter: Thanks, Dr. Banner! You've been a huge help.
Banner: (y)

What a thrilling scene. Later, Peter gets the Hulk to relent by reminding him that they're friends. I don't think we've ever seen them interact before.

The fight scenes looked cool.

I don't feel like talking about this movie anymore. There's a post-credits scene.
 
From looking around online this appears to be a Me Problem, as everyone else seems to love it. So by all means, don't take my word for it.

I'm happy to see Marvel score a hit, because even if this one wasn't for me, maybe the next one will be.
 
I watched it and liked it. But my issues with it are similar to Vaeran's. I will say I have less of a problem with Spidey bwing cheered on in the end when the theme is supposed to be "I'm the same guy" and people love him for what he does. But I do feel like while they talk about the ideas a lot, I wasn't "feeling" it.

But I also think part of my problem is I like my Spidey Super Stories to be fun even when the stakes are high and there is tragedy. This one was a bit mopey, even for Spider-Man, a hero who is both fun and silly and also very mopey. It's weird that the most lighthearted elements of the film come from the Punisher. But man, Jon and Tom Holland have REAL chemistry so I'll allow it.

I will say, I did not see this being the film to introduce an X-Man and that instead of the huge number of classic Spidey baddies they went with Jean. Also, I wish there was more Scorpion. Not because I'm a big Scorpion fan but because I'm a very big Michael Mando fando! I think it could have been fun with a big more of him as kind of Jean's reluctant dumb-dumb henchman.
 
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