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To Infinity and Beyond: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Blergmeister

Blergmeister

I also saw Deadpool and Wolverine!!!

I stayed pretty in the dark on this, outside what the title tells you, I really only knew the TVA was involved and that Cassandra Nova was a villain (thanks to X-Men 97 discussion.). My broad assumption would be that the movie is a vehicle to shunt Ryan Reynolds Deadpool into the MCU and was wondering if any of the former cast would even be in it. I'm glad to not only learn I was wrong to not expect them but that the whole movie was meta commentary on saving the supporting cast for the future. Deadpool had his chance to join the MCU but he turned that down. The Fox Marvel Universe lost its anchor in Wolverine, without that hook it was going to be forgotten, and Logan being such a good send off they were never going to bring Hugh back, but here comes Deadpool, stepping up to keep that particular universe anchored in pop culture! The cameos were all in good fun, Flame On being the biggest surprise, but Channing Tatum's Gambit coming in a close second. I don't think a movie with him would have worked but the exiled characters worked! Laura, in particular, I felt really attached to! Anyways, can't wait to read analysis from someone with greater insight than I!
 
jpfriction

jpfriction

(He, Him)
Based on my viewing where my wife couldn’t stop laughing for the entire time and my friends fell asleep, I’d say it helps to have a decent knowledge of the fox marvel movies going into it but it was largely a success as a super hero spoof. Could have been subtitled: Not Another Marvel Movie.

I like the simple revenge plot of the first movie a bit better (and I barely remember the second one), but I certainly had fun here.
 
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Purple

Purple

(She/Her)
jpfriction said:
Based on my viewing where my wife couldn’t stop laughing for the entire time and my friends fell asleep, I’d say it helps to have a decent knowledge of the fox marvel movies going into it but it was largely a success as a super hero spoof. Could have been subtitled: Not Another Marvel Movie.

I like the simple revenge plot of the first movie a bit better (and I barely remember the second one), but I certainly had fun here.
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The second one had the kid from, and worked kinda weirdly well as a direct sequel to, Hunt for the Wilderpeople.
 
BEAT

BEAT

LOUDSKULL
(DUDE/BRO)
You guys remember Ant Man Quantums Mad where The first half of the movie Ant Mom was like "NOOO I CAN'T SAY HIS NAME I'M SCARED" and they really fuckin dragged out the reveal that the bad guy was KANG.

But like.

There was no *reveal* Everyone knew Kang was the bad guy. he was on the poster. The entire marketing push was SEE KANG FOR THE FIRST TIME ON THE BIG SCREEN! I had some random asshole on twitter yelling at me for not wanting to go to the movies for it because HOW DARE I MISS KANG'S BIG DEBUT!!!

My theory on that was that they made the movie based around the idea that Kang would be a big "HOLY SHIT THAT GUY WAS KANG?!?!" moment. Blow the minds of all the nerds in the audience. But then someone pointed out that Ant Man was kind of a second-stringer hero, so the marketing machine went all in on "HEY YOU WANNA SEE KANG?!" instead of "what's that ant-guy up to?" resulting in all the weird dancing around it for half the runtime.

I can't help but feel like history is repeating itself here. Only worse.
 
Johnny Unusual

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
I always felt like the Quantumania hate was both weirdly overstated yet understandable. This "World of Flops" article kind of puts it's it nicely as it notes it's Razzie status (and let's face it, the Razzies suck); that basically making it a Razzie nominee is dunking on the ailing superhero boom after the fact and "It does not ultimately deserve to be singled out for mockery or praise, but with the Golden Raspberries, as with the Academy Awards, the nominees and winners are choices both obvious and wrong." It's an unfortunately middling movie that basically uses the movie of one of the more fun characters to arduously set up Kang as the next big thing and it sucks up all the air. It's not Marvel at it's worst but it's also Marvel at it's worst in terms of lifeless filmmaking, smearing the film in CG nonsense and jokes that almost work.

And a really disappointing MODOK. It really hurts when you fuck up MODOK. MODOK is supposed to be funny but also gross and scary and unsettling. It's disappointing that it's mostly a lame gag that looks like the cheap CG from one of Robert Rodriguez's kids movies.
 
Octopus Prime

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
Deadpool and Wolverine was *precisely* the movie I wanted it to be.

If you don’t like what a movie called “Deadpool & Wolverine” implies you will not enjoy it. If you do like it, you will.

I was having a hoot of a time.
 
Beowulf

Beowulf

Son of The Answer Man
(He/Him)
jpfriction said:
I haven’t seen the movie but Patton Oswalt’s MODOK show on hulu was solid. Character works good in a family guy.
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Really? I didn't love it--I found MODOK himself too unpleasant a character to carry as the protagonist. I felt like it was trying to be Harley Quinn but not making me care about the characters.

That said, I was also just fine with MODOK being basically a joke character in Ant-Man. I never had particularly strong feelings about MODOK.
 
Büge

Büge

Arm Candy
(she/her)
if they wanted to make Kang the next Big Bad Guy, they shouldn't have made him the villain in Quantumania, and thus defeatable

Also, I mean, Psycho-Man was RIGHT THERE

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Johnny Unusual

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
BEAT said:
He made me laugh, which is more than any other part of the movie managed.
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To be clear, as a MODOK fan, I'm conflicted. He was fine in the movie but I feel the character in the comics has a lot going on. Like he's ridiculous comic book nonsense and because of that is often played for laughs like in the movie. But there's also a creepy aspect to the character lost in translation; a powerful manipulative psychic who, in real life, would look pretty unsettling.

His death scene was pretty amusing, though and Corey Stoll definitely worked in reimagining his character from the first Ant-Man movie as more overtly comedic.

That said, if another Ant-Man movie were to happen (slightly less likely than what would have been a sure thing since I feel like Marvel is finally reading the signs and trying to slow their role a bit until they can figure out what worked and what didn't post-Endgame), please, just have it be a fun, small stakes heist with, idunno, Whirlwind or the Porcupine or something. Let Paul Rudd be fun and let Michael Pena exist.
 
Paul le Fou

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
Octopus Prime said:
Deadpool and Wolverine was *precisely* the movie I wanted it to be.

If you don’t like what a movie called “Deadpool & Wolverine” implies you will not enjoy it. If you do like it, you will.

I was having a hoot of a time.
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I think it was pretty fun. A lot of good meta jokes and some really good gags. I feel like I enjoyed the first one the most, but that's probably because it was fresh and novel; I haven't revisited it to see how it holds up in the context of later works. I remember thinking the second was OK, but I definitely like DP&W more than DP2.
 
Patrick

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
I played hooky this afternoon and saw Deadpool. Actually, I liked it a lot more than I expected. I wasn’t a huge fan of the first two (I forgot I had seen the sequel until I looked up the plot). But, I think the Fox movie and Loki tie ins were enough to get me onboard. And, it was actually really funny. And, I especially liked that it stole settings & characters from other movies, but didn’t feel like a set up for anything else. It was just having fun with toys in a sandbox. Just what I was in the mood for.
 
Johnny Unusual

Johnny Unusual

(He/Him)
Deadpool and Wolverine is basically Deadpool again but even more meta yet somehow isn't insufferable. But more than that, it's kind of a tribute to what came before, even the stuff that isn't considered very good. As much as No Way Home celebrated Spider-Man's past, this is about the idea that we can dismiss a lot of this stuff for the future. Obviously, people are going to talk about the wild cameos (one is a perfect bait and switch) but I think the movie is good at balancing the metanarrative and actually caring about what happens. It manages to be the last hurrah for the Marvel Fox movies (and beyond) that's a loving if irreverent goodbye.

Very curious who said no. Obviously Affleck but I wonder if Thomas Jane or Ray Stevenson were asked to be in this.
 
Adrenaline

Adrenaline

Post Reader
(He/Him)
I think I laughed out loud at Deadpool 3 twice, which is more than I expected. It was fine. Not a big fan of the character or the movies but they have a fun spirit.
 
Kazin

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
God damn is Wolverine brutal when he gets to be in an R rated movie. Logan had parts like that too but this Wolverine seems to be more in his prime, and as a result much more capable of being extremely violent.

Anyway I liked Deadpool Wolv3rine. Still quite burned out on superhero stuff (low point, indeed lmao), but I'm always down for one of these. Didn't laugh as much as I thought I would - there's a solid chunk of this movie where Deadpool doesn't say much - but I still had a good time.
 
SpoonyBard

SpoonyBard

Threat Rhyme
(He/Him)
Finally saw D3adpool. Had a good time. Still like the first one the most out of the trilogy but this is the first Marvel movie in a good bit where I enjoyed myself throughout.

"Huh. Looks like Paul Rudd finally aged."
 
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