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This is How you Lose the Time War - March 2022 Book Club Reading

Falselogic

Lapsed Threadcromancer
(they/them)
This is How you Lose the Time War is a 2019 science fiction epistolary novel by Amal El Mohtar and Max Gladstone (details below). It won the BSFA Award for Best Shorter Fiction, the Nebula Award for Best Novella of 2019, and the 2020 Hugo Award for Best Novella.

Among the ashes of a dying world, an agent of the Commandment finds a letter. It reads: Burn before reading.

Thus begins an unlikely correspondence between two rival agents hellbent on securing the best possible future for their warring factions. Now, what began as a taunt, a battlefield boast, becomes something more. Something epic. Something romantic. Something that could change the past and the future.

Except the discovery of their bond would mean the death of each of them. There’s still a war going on, after all. And someone has to win. That’s how war works, right?

About the two authors:

Amal El-Mohtar is an award-winning author, editor, and critic. Her short story “Seasons of Glass and Iron” won the Hugo, Nebula, and Locus awards and was a finalist for the World Fantasy, Sturgeon, Aurora, and Eugie Foster awards. She is the author of The Honey Month, a collection of poetry and prose written to the taste of twenty-eight different kinds of honey, and contributes criticism to NPR Books and The New York Times. Her fiction has most recently appeared on Tor and Uncanny Magazine, and in anthologies such as The Djinn Falls in Love & Other Stories and The Starlit Wood: New Fairy Tales. She is presently pursuing a PhD at Carleton University and teaches creative writing at the University of Ottawa. She can be found online at @Tithenai.

Max Gladstone is the author of the Hugo-nominated Craft Sequence, which Patrick Rothfuss called “stupefyingly good.” The sixth book, Ruin of Angels, was released September 2017. Max’s interactive mobile game Choice of the Deathless was nominated for the XYZZY Award, and his critically acclaimed short fiction has appeared on Tor and in Uncanny Magazine, and in anthologies such as XO Orpheus: Fifty New Myths and The Starlit Wood: New Fairy Tales. John Crowley described Max as “a true star of 21st-century fantasy.” Max has sung in Carnegie Hall and was once thrown from a horse in Mongolia.
 

Egarwaen

(He/Him)
I started this early because I skipped the past couple months!

I'm really enjoying it. Epistolaries are a lot of fun, and this one's got some extra framing that makes it even better.
 

Violentvixen

(She/Her)
This is a re-read I've been meaning to do for a long time and I expect to find/notice things I missed earlier. Excited for this one.
 

Falselogic

Lapsed Threadcromancer
(they/them)
This is a re-read I've been meaning to do for a long time and I expect to find/notice things I missed earlier. Excited for this one.
I am also re-reading this one. I remember enjoying it the first time but am also hoping to pick up things I missed the first time.
 

karzac

(he/him)
I read this book for my own book club last year. Not sure if I'll be participating in the discussions here, but I wanted to offer some advice to anyone coming in to the book fresh:This is much more a work of prose-poetry, with clever sentences and beautiful images, than it is a traditional sci-fi novel with a a clear setting, plot and characters. I think framing your expectations correctly will be really helpful for getting the most out of the experience.
 

Egarwaen

(He/Him)
I finished it! I really enjoyed it!

That was really quite a solid enemies-to-lovers romance with a pretty quality HEA.

Time travel never makes very much sense, so I was quite happy with how it was used here to provide a varied backdrop to highlight different aspects of Blue and Red's identities. The imagination on display was a lot of fun; the backdrops tease a wild multiverse containing everything from interstellar warfare to antediluvian mystery cults. The difference in strategies between Garden and The Agency was also very evocative and showed clever understanding of time travel physics. Opening with The Agency's more obvious strategy - drop in a hyper-tech agent for anything from a few hours to a decade - then filling in Garden's "seed and grow" strategy worked really well.

I enjoyed the "forgotten childhood friends" reveal as well; I'd been expecting something like that from when Blue described the fever she'd taken, but the execution of it was very satisfying.
 

Violentvixen

(She/Her)
Enjoying this re-read, I wouldn't say I'm catching things I previously missed, not as dramatic as that. It's more like I have a better appreciation for some of what is said.
 

Falselogic

Lapsed Threadcromancer
(they/them)
I'm listening to it as an audiobook and it's all just so poetic and good at painting pictures with words. I also love how pop lyrics and memes are referenced as "The Prophets."
 

Falselogic

Lapsed Threadcromancer
(they/them)
I think I like this book enough to pick up a physical copy of it. I only wish there was an annotated edition that elucidated all the direct references and allusions. I know I am certainly missing many of them.
 

Violentvixen

(She/Her)
Finished my reread. Still love it.

I'd previously missed two things: First, that it goes from "a seeker" to "the seeker" to "Seeker" as the novel moves on, which is a nice touch. Second, at Caesar's assassination (p98) there are other agents present and Red discusses that she suspects she's being followed, I didn't remember that at all.
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
I started this yesterday! I'm catching up!

Anyway, I tore through about half of it in one day, which was mostly the development of their relationship from rivals to friends to (something more??); I stopped shortly after Blue saved Red in the past. I've really loved it so far, and I'm looking forward to tearing through more of it as soon as I get a chance!
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
I finished a few days ago. Beautiful book, loved it, A+.

I really appreciated the poetic language throughout, the vivid descriptiveness of it. And the correspondence between them was fun, especially in the creative and fascinating ways they left each other letters. A very tiny part of me would want to know more about "wait, how do they manipulate the way plants grow so minutely that they can eventually create seeds that form a letter?" but from a pure curiosity standpoint, like "ooh tell me more about that," instead of dissatisfaction/disbelief. But even so, I'm glad that the book doesn't go into detail and just lets it be part of the inscrutable multidimensional fantasy.

I'd figured from the start that the seeker's identity was going to be a big deal, either one of them at a different point in time or their child somehow. And since they were collecting all the evidence of Red and Blue's correspondance, that it would somehow have to do with some sort of culmination. Blue's death kind of took me by surprise, but also made perfect sense and fit in just fine. The way everything resolved at the end was just a little bit unsatisfying in that I personally wished I could have seen more, to finally get a scene where they were actually together (and cognizant of it, you know what I mean). I don't begrudge the book ending the way it does at all, though, because that's indisputably the better ending for the book as written.
 
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