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I'm confident that Drac's post was not in response to you, given his earlier posts in this thread.have I said something incorrect/problematic? I read the comics years ago. I'm sure I remember Scott being dumped on constantly for being a creep.
I was more referring to the SHEER VOLUME of YOUNGBEAT'S wrongness, to the point that an instance of me being correct, (textually supported or not) was notable and memorable.I thought Beat's post ("right side of history") seemed to be emphatically stating that Scott's sketchiness was somehow lauded by the text itself.
It was always gross. To me, they always read as a pretty self-aware analysis of what it's like to be a scumbag who slowly becomes self-aware of his scuminess. The problem was that it blew up and became popular because scumbag nerds were like "Woah! This speaks to me! Because I like NES too!" it being on the vanguard of nostalgia-bait for our generation. And then it also read like the author was like, "Well shit, these nerds are missing the point, but they're also putting food on my plate and I can't piss them off too much soooo..."I don't think they hold up entirely well. The whole premise is a little bit gross.
have I said something incorrect/problematic? I read the comics years ago. I'm sure I remember Scott being dumped on constantly for being a creep.
Nobody has to like the books. I don't think they hold up entirely well. The whole premise is a little bit gross.
I didn't like the movie at all...
Don't undersell the fact that "she's Asian and that's my kink" is a big motivator here too.It’s okay to groom a 17 year old as long as you have similar hobbies.
And, TBF, I've often lambasted Fight Club for glamorizing its characters and delivering the Narrator a "happy" ending, even though the actual point of both it and the book is to chastise the Tyler Durden mentality. Exact same thing happened with Watchmen and Rorschach. So I see where the SP criticism is coming from.
If I'm reading the discussion correctly, the issue is that neither the film nor the comic accurately and undeniably convey that fact; they're more preoccupied with the surface-level aspects (pop culture reference, nerd/gamer jokes, visual appeal) than with driving the central theme forward.
And, TBF, I've often lambasted Fight Club for glamorizing its characters and delivering the Narrator a "happy" ending, even though the actual point of both it and the book is to chastise the Tyler Durden mentality. Exact same thing happened with Watchmen and Rorschach. So I see where the SP criticism is coming from.