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The Old Grey Brick, She Ain't What She Used To Be - A Game Boy Thread

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Same here - and I just played through literally every version two years ago lol. Gold, Silver, Crystal, then HeartGold and SoulSilver (though I stalled out in Kanto on SoulSilver - I had just played through basically the same game four times, I didn't feel bad about it lol). They're all good, but the speed of the originals (as well as aesthetics I prefer) puts them over the remakes imo.
 

Phantoon

I cuss you bad
It's a shame you can't get the GB Sounds earlier in HG/SS, the new soundtrack isn't a patch on the original.
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
Wikipedia lists 915 games which were colour enhanced.
I checked the page, and it shows 915 as licensed, but only 655 licensed (released). I have no idea what accounts for that discrepancy. Also, only 472 of those were exclusive to GBC. So, not a huge difference from the number of games that were exclusive to DSi.

Regardless, GBC totally fits in the same mold as DSi and New 3DS. It’s a half generation that uses an upgraded version of the same hardware. It runs all of the same games as the regular Game Boy / DS / 3DS, but it also has some exclusive games. Nintendo even includes GBC sales in their total for Game Boy sales.

I don’t mean this as a slight to the GBC. It had a bunch of great games (as someone else pointed out, MGS is phenomenal). I just think it’s easier to understand why it wasn’t around very long when you think about it as an upgraded Game Boy rather than a separate generation.
 

Phantoon

I cuss you bad
The 655 is a partial list, it says on the page. There were 50- odd licensed, but not released, so about 865, then. And none of these games, back compatible or not, would have been released without the Game Boy Colour. The Game Boy was 10 years old at this point.

Regardless of numbers, we can also add that these were retail releases that came out at full price. Almost nothing on DSi hits that criterion. There were five games that used the DSi for the camera, nothing more.

Whether or not the GBC classes as a generation or not, and I absolutely believe it does, it wasn't like the DSi or new 3DS. That said, the Game Boy Advance was overdue; it's a shame we couldn't have had GBC a little earlier.
 

conchobhar

What's Shenmue?
(he/him/his)
So, I've been replaying Wario Land 3 on my RG350 (Gambette is actually a really good emulator, if you aren't going for original hardware) and it got me thinking about how short and non-notable the Game Boy Color era was. I mean, I feel like there are only a handful of particularly good games exclusively for the GBC, and all of them are first-party Nintendo titles (Wario Land 3 and Oracle of Ages/Seasons). Then you've got some re-releases from other systems, a Pokemon generation totally overshadowed by its remake, and a lot of media tie-in games. What am I missing?

Well, just off the top of my head…
  • Hamtaro: Ham-Hams Unite! — mentioned way upthread, but this is a genuinely good and clever, if simple, adventure game. The main hook is that your actions are tied to words, and your vocabulary is in turn limited to your dictonary, so you have to learn new words from others to do new actions;
  • Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble — as a gyroscope-controlled game, I'm not sure if this is able to be emulated, but it was sure a fun and novel time back in the day;
  • Mario Golf and Mario Tennis — great pair of sports games, with RPG elements that never made it into the console versions;
  • Mega Man Xtreme 2 — significantly improved from the first (non-GBC exclusive) thanks to the addition of Zero;
  • Metal Gear Solid (Ghost Babel)
  • Pokémon Puzzle Challenge — for my money, the best version of Puzzle League/Panel de Pon;
  • Shantae
  • Toki Tori — cute puzzle-platformer. there's a faithful (and very readily available) remake, but I think this version looks much nicer.
Plus the numerous games that GB compatible but GBC enhanced… yeah, you could play Wario Land II on your grey brick, but it's much nicer in colour.
 
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muteKi

say "fish don't exist" to my face, motherfucker
Kirby Tilt n Tumble definitely requires specific solutions for running. 3DS emulators like mGBA can probably run it just fine, because they use the data from the 3DS's sensors.
 

Beowulf

Let the Mystery Be
(He/Him)
Well, I'm taking all of these comments as a rec list for things to try out. (I remember trying the original Shantae at one point and being unimpressed, though I did really like Risky's Revenge. Maybe I'll give it another go.)
 

Patrick

Magic-User
(He/Him)
The 655 is a partial list, it says on the page. There were 50- odd licensed, but not released, so about 865, then. And none of these games, back compatible or not, would have been released without the Game Boy Colour. The Game Boy was 10 years old at this point.

Regardless of numbers, we can also add that these were retail releases that came out at full price. Almost nothing on DSi hits that criterion. There were five games that used the DSi for the camera, nothing more.

Whether or not the GBC classes as a generation or not, and I absolutely believe it does, it wasn't like the DSi or new 3DS. That said, the Game Boy Advance was overdue; it's a shame we couldn't have had GBC a little earlier.
Good catch that it is a partial list, I missed that.

Pokemon Red & Blue had just been released in 1998. Game Boy was doing very well. Here's a list of sales by year (again combining GB and GBC numbers). You can see that the sales are already going up the year before GBC came out. I don't find your argument that none of the enhanced GB games would have come out without GBC convincing.

I don't see the relevance of the games being retail releases or not. Digital downloads were not available in 1998, and the DSi shop was the main draw of that system. Games were released in the way that made the most sense.

GBC did have more games than DSi, and they both had a lot more games than New 3DS. I'm not trying to argue that GBC is bad or DSi is great (though I did like the DSi). Just that they all follow the same pattern. A new version of the system came out late in the system's life and could run some exclusive games. The only handheld that didn't get the end of generation revision was the GBA (since the DS was released as a 3rd pillar).
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
Well, I'm taking all of these comments as a rec list for things to try out. (I remember trying the original Shantae at one point and being unimpressed, though I did really like Risky's Revenge. Maybe I'll give it another go.)
Shantae is very, very rough at the start. It really takes a little bit to get going. I feel there is very little direction - it almost reminds me of Simon's Quest in a way.
 

Mr. Sensible

Pitch and Putt Duffer
  • Mario Golf and Mario Tennis — great pair of sports games, with RPG elements that never made it into the console versions;
Gotta rep for Mario Golf GBC. If you can mess with a three-click swing golf game it's best-in-class. The GBA sequel is also great.
 

Trar

Grilling
(I am a man)
Wario Land 2 is a kickass game. I have no desire to replay it because that's not how I roll but it was fun and dare I say probably one of the best GB games. Wario is an absolute chad who can't die, throws enemies (and his own pet hen) to break blocks, and the plot is literally that 50 Cent game ("BITCH TOOK MY SKULL") but kid-friendly.
 

madhair60

Video games
Got my modded Game Boy back and there's an even more obvious bit of grime/dirt square in the middle of the screen, now. I fucking give up.

Edit: Actually, I'm going to be entirely forthcoming here - can somebody please fucking sort this fucking thing out for me? I do not care about paying postage, costs, etc. I just need a reliable human being who isn't incapable of checking the fucking thing after allegedly fixing it. FUCK.

Edit 2: See, I'd try and do it myself, but I know I'd drop the fucking thing and smash it into a million pieces because my hands don't work properly. God this is so frustrating. Sorry for being a downer. I just want ONE THING to go well. lol.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Got my modded Game Boy back and there's an even more obvious bit of grime/dirt square in the middle of the screen, now. I fucking give up.

Edit: Actually, I'm going to be entirely forthcoming here - can somebody please fucking sort this fucking thing out for me? I do not care about paying postage, costs, etc. I just need a reliable human being who isn't incapable of checking the fucking thing after allegedly fixing it. FUCK.

Edit 2: See, I'd try and do it myself, but I know I'd drop the fucking thing and smash it into a million pieces because my hands don't work properly. God this is so frustrating. Sorry for being a downer. I just want ONE THING to go well. lol.

If you truly don't care about postage costs, I might be willing to do it for you, but I need to know a few things first before you spend the money to send it to me in the US:

1. Do you know if the modder/seller permanently adhered the screen to the GBC case? Usually the screen mods come with a piece of foam that, when the entire sticky backing of said foam is applied, is nearly impossible to remove without permanently damaging the LCD screen, so if this is what your modder did, I don't think it'd be worth shipping to me as I'd either be unable to get to the dirt/speck at all or I'd break the thing trying to take it apart.

2. What kind of grime/dirt square is it? Like can you see a little speck of dirt or a hair or whatever, or does it look "wet?" If it's the latter, the LCD is probably boned. If it's the former and the screen can be separated from the GBC case, I might be able to do something for you.

I'm also not volunteering him because that would be rude, but I know Phantoon is somewhere in the UK, so check with him first before shipping it to me, I'd say. That and anyone else over that way.
 

madhair60

Video games




Am I just being a seriously fussy piece of crap??
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
No, that would absolutely bug me too (especially because you probably paid a lot of money for it) - I can't tell you the number of times I took apart and put back together my original 1989 Gameboy to remove dust, then a hair, then to perfectly clean a smudge from one of my thumbs off the screen, etc. It was at least three total teardowns after I'd finished the mod, ffs, so I get it.

I can't tell from the pictures whether or not your modder used the entire sticky foam backing or not, unfortunately. You'll probably have to ask them if they did.

In any case, it doesn't look "wet," it looks like a piece of dust or something that should be removable, as I don't think the screen itself is damaged.
 
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Phantoon

I cuss you bad
As I've not modded a Color I'm a little wary of doing it myself. After I'd done it once I'd be happier with doing it.

You're right to be annoyed about it though, it's slap bang in the middle of the screen. It's a poor job, even worse after it's been sent back once already.
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
Maybe it just shifted around in shipping, though? Dunno. Definitely something that would bother me, though. Wonder if some compressed air would move it around a bit?

I totally get being upset about something like that. I returned a 3DS because it had a dead pixel smack in the middle of the screen. It was astoundingly distracting.
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Maybe it just shifted around in shipping, though? Dunno. Definitely something that would bother me, though. Wonder if some compressed air would move it around a bit?

I totally get being upset about something like that. I returned a 3DS because it had a dead pixel smack in the middle of the screen. It was astoundingly distracting.

Be careful with compressed air - if used too close to the LCD, it can cause damage to it (they're really fragile little things). I've only used compressed air on these things when disassembled and with the can at least a foot, probably at least one and a half feet, away from the screen. You're better off wiping it off with a microfiber cloth.
 

Sarge

hardcore retro gamin'
Ah, good point. Ignore that suggestion, then. Although yeah, with something fragile I keep it waaaay back.
 

madhair60

Video games
I'm so, so irritated by this. It's a little pathetic of me. It was just so disappointing unwrapping this and seeing this even worse fucking issue than before. God damnit. How could this possibly happen in shipping? I'm baffled.

Edit: I'm on my fourth Evercade, too, you know. And the new PC I recently bought (AT GREAT FUCKING EXPENSE) is already on the fritz. I swear to the christ child.
 

madhair60

Video games
Gonna resort to scorched earth. Sending the GBC back again and if there are more problems I'll do a chargeback and fuck myself over ever buying from them again, like I care. I ordered three games too, never got 'em.

At least the Analogue Pocket will satisfy. Unless it comes and due to a freak incident at the mold mine is shaped like a dick or something, and they'll be like "yeah sorry the fine print says sometimes you get a dick-looking Pocket, nothing to be done".
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Yeah, especially if it's a "big" seller or something. I'm sorry this happened to you, madhair.
 

Beowulf

Let the Mystery Be
(He/Him)
Honestly, if you got a dick-Pocket, I'm curious enough about it to trade my "normal" Pocket for it!
 

Tegan

dirtbag lesbian
(She/Her)
God damn I love Hatena Satena. It's super fun and has this wild art design that like, nothing else has, you know?

 

Phantoon

I cuss you bad
I've rescued one of my old DMG Game Boys and after cleaning off the battery corrosion it's playable. The lens is missing (somehow) and there's some vertical lines on the screen (and the shell is hugely discoloured) but nothing I can't handle. There's something about the heft of the original Game Boy. Can't wait to get it fully working, I have a lot of history with this thing.

Also @madhair60 how's your mod going?
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
Think I'm gonna order parts to refurb a Game Boy Color next year. What colour should I make it?

An all white on to match your GBA would be nice, but I also really like the purple/white one I made that I posted pictures of a while back...
 

Phantoon

I cuss you bad
You could go anodized aluminium if you're feeling flush. Those look amazing.

I fixed my vertical lines on my DMG and have a lens coming and it'll be back to working stock. I'm thinking black case, white buttons and lens for the upgrade. I don't think primary colours will look good on a DMG as it's too much of a chonker

Am I wrong?
 

Kazin

did i do all of that?
(he/him)
You could go anodized aluminium if you're feeling flush. Those look amazing.

I fixed my vertical lines on my DMG and have a lens coming and it'll be back to working stock. I'm thinking black case, white buttons and lens for the upgrade. I don't think primary colours will look good on a DMG as it's too much of a chonker

Am I wrong?

I always coveted the Play It Loud Gameboys but black and white would look good too. But, I will always love transparent plastic, so that's why I went see through blue for mine. I think a smoky see through black with white buttons would look good, too...
 
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