muteKi
Geno Cidecity
On the one hand I like to get my retrogames on PC as much as possible. On the other hand, if I don't get it on Switch how am I going to play these games on a handheld? Decisions, decisions
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The Nintendo Thread of Existential Doom
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On the one hand I like to get my retrogames on PC as much as possible. On the other hand, if I don't get it on Switch how am I going to play these games on a handheld? Decisions, decisions
madhair60
Video games
i love kirby. it is my favourite shit ever. it is the most reliable series of all time and even the weaker entries just fill me with joy and comfort. and now it's fuckin... that.
Is it the setting/tone that bothers you? I'm not taking the piss, I'm legitimately curious why you're not looking forward to it. I agree with your premise - there are no bad Kirby games - so what makes you so sad about this one/convinced it's shit already?
madhair60
Video games
i just wanted this one thing to not change, lol.
Holy shit Actraiser and Castlevania, bought already. The NSO updates are cool, I wonder how well you'll be able to play N64 stuff without getting that controller. Also interested to see what shows up on the Genesis thing that isn't already in the Genesis Collection and other retro bundles. I was always disappointed they never added DLC or expanded the Genesis collection. At least with NSO you get rewind.
Becksworth
Aging Hipster Dragon Dad
Going to wait an see on Actraiser. Could just be the art style, but it seemed stiff?
Also waiting on that Castlevania collection, if I get it at all. Aria of Sorrow is honestly the only game of those I even want, and a new Metroid is coming out in two weeks.
Figured Deltarune chapter 2 was going to be announced. Hooray for free stuff!
My concern with 3D Kirby is 2D Kirby already tends to be slower paced, so that 3D iteration looks even more lethargic from the trailer. That said I don't know enough to make any real judgement yet.
Bayo 3 felt... surprisingly sedate I guess? Must be hard to continuously up the ante with every Platinum Games release, and controlling demons seems like a fun twist, but I don't know. Just wasn't wowed by the trailer.
Splatoon 3 is Splatoon. Unless the single player campaign is more substantial I might sit this one out, as I don't really play the multiplayer.
The Yoko Taro RPG looks neat. Will try the demo.
Overall seemed like a "not for me" direct, which I'm honestly fine with. There were plenty of "for me" announcements already this year.
Also waiting on that Castlevania collection, if I get it at all. Aria of Sorrow is honestly the only game of those I even want, and a new Metroid is coming out in two weeks.
Figured Deltarune chapter 2 was going to be announced. Hooray for free stuff!
My concern with 3D Kirby is 2D Kirby already tends to be slower paced, so that 3D iteration looks even more lethargic from the trailer. That said I don't know enough to make any real judgement yet.
Bayo 3 felt... surprisingly sedate I guess? Must be hard to continuously up the ante with every Platinum Games release, and controlling demons seems like a fun twist, but I don't know. Just wasn't wowed by the trailer.
Splatoon 3 is Splatoon. Unless the single player campaign is more substantial I might sit this one out, as I don't really play the multiplayer.
The Yoko Taro RPG looks neat. Will try the demo.
Overall seemed like a "not for me" direct, which I'm honestly fine with. There were plenty of "for me" announcements already this year.
Kind of vibrating in my chair over the Actraiser remake, especially since Yuzo Koshiro is so directly involved. Gonna wait on impressions too, but all that means is I wanna know how well it runs on the various platforms before I pick one. Said in the discord already, but its strange to me that the "Master" has a human face.
I know it was just a tease with no real info yet, but I'm glad that Animal Crossing: New Horizons is finally getting Brewster so that people will shut up about wanting Brewster 'cuz of that one thing that was datamined ages ago.
But more than that I'm interested in what the game will do with him. New coffee stuff would be the obvious thing but The Roost could also bring back Gyroids (DATAMINE+Brewster's history with collecting them/having his own) and potentially be used as a spot for cameos for characters who otherwise wouldn't appear in the game.
But more than that I'm interested in what the game will do with him. New coffee stuff would be the obvious thing but The Roost could also bring back Gyroids (DATAMINE+Brewster's history with collecting them/having his own) and potentially be used as a spot for cameos for characters who otherwise wouldn't appear in the game.
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Just an FYI about the Castlevania Advance Collection:
that Direct had a lot of great highs and not too many lows
Fucking Actraiser wtf Square-Enix remembered the Enix piece finally
seeing WinBack, Dr. Mario 64 and FUCKING BANJO has me so hype for N64 Switch
Genesis was out of left field
MUSHA was one of the games I felt was missing from the Genesis Mini, so glad to see it here right off the bat
Splatoon 3 looks great! Kirby 3D platformer looks great! Bayonetta 3 looks great!
Castlevania Advance Collection is real!
Square-Enix's other three games looked fantastic!
Namco is coming to Arcade Archives! THIS IS HUGE
Legend of Valkyrie and Baraduke have a chance of coming back!!
those were my highlights
Fucking Actraiser wtf Square-Enix remembered the Enix piece finally
seeing WinBack, Dr. Mario 64 and FUCKING BANJO has me so hype for N64 Switch
Genesis was out of left field
MUSHA was one of the games I felt was missing from the Genesis Mini, so glad to see it here right off the bat
Splatoon 3 looks great! Kirby 3D platformer looks great! Bayonetta 3 looks great!
Castlevania Advance Collection is real!
Square-Enix's other three games looked fantastic!
Namco is coming to Arcade Archives! THIS IS HUGE
Legend of Valkyrie and Baraduke have a chance of coming back!!
those were my highlights
Sprite
(He/Him/His)
Nah.
What makes the Kirby franchise so phenomenal is how it oscillates between traditional titles and experimental titles. The last game was a typical Kirby game, so the next one is gonna be a little weird. Kirby's been doing this since the beginning. Look at the release history, it's remarkably consistent. For a while they were literally switching back and forth each game. It's a great approach, because they get to stretch their legs and try new things before snapping back to their bread-and-butter.
I will be SHOCKED if they stop making the 2D Kirby games.
Sarge
hardcore retro gamin'
Yeah, I tend to agree, I think 2D Kirby is safe.
Also, I did not see ActRaiser coming. Not... entirely sure I like what I'm seeing, but I'm open to it impressing.
N64 and Genesis? Intriguing, but it's going to depend on price point. I've already got a Genesis Mini and a MiSTer setup (on top of a bazillion other ways to play them), and... uh, yeah, I hacked the Mini to have all the titles I care about. Still awesome to see them come over, but I'm really hoping it's not too big a premium on the yearly plan.
Also, I did not see ActRaiser coming. Not... entirely sure I like what I'm seeing, but I'm open to it impressing.
N64 and Genesis? Intriguing, but it's going to depend on price point. I've already got a Genesis Mini and a MiSTer setup (on top of a bazillion other ways to play them), and... uh, yeah, I hacked the Mini to have all the titles I care about. Still awesome to see them come over, but I'm really hoping it's not too big a premium on the yearly plan.
Yeah, the Kirby framework has always been super flexible. On the ol' monochrome Game Boy we had two platformers...but also a pinball game, a drop-down puzzle game, and a Breakout-like. When Kirby went to the Game Boy Color, he brought one of the earliest (if not the earliest) Nintendo motion controls experiments with him.
Even the 2D platformers break the mold. Kirby's Dream Land was just sucking and blowing before Kirby's Adventure let him Mega Man things.
One of his most beloved games was a platforming variety show with different quirks depending on the mode and fighting game-esque versatility for his powers...and that very same system later had a slower paced platformer where your power variety was tied to your partners and you got shinys by doing or not doing specific things never alluded to with dialogue that vary from stage to stage.
The Game Boy Advance had both a pretty direct Kirby's Adventure remake and a full-fledged Metroidvania with a game wide 4-player mode most would never get to experience 'cuz GBA.
And the DS put the standard Kirby platformer template into a game where you draw paths for a ball near the start of its life and one where you have up to ten Kirbys pounding all the things near the end.
A 3D platformer may be the thing that everyone else has done but it's a new frontier for Kirby and I know he'll do something else next time. He's reliable in his unpredictability.
Even the 2D platformers break the mold. Kirby's Dream Land was just sucking and blowing before Kirby's Adventure let him Mega Man things.
One of his most beloved games was a platforming variety show with different quirks depending on the mode and fighting game-esque versatility for his powers...and that very same system later had a slower paced platformer where your power variety was tied to your partners and you got shinys by doing or not doing specific things never alluded to with dialogue that vary from stage to stage.
The Game Boy Advance had both a pretty direct Kirby's Adventure remake and a full-fledged Metroidvania with a game wide 4-player mode most would never get to experience 'cuz GBA.
And the DS put the standard Kirby platformer template into a game where you draw paths for a ball near the start of its life and one where you have up to ten Kirbys pounding all the things near the end.
A 3D platformer may be the thing that everyone else has done but it's a new frontier for Kirby and I know he'll do something else next time. He's reliable in his unpredictability.
Becksworth
Aging Hipster Dragon Dad
Good grief, it's 2021 and people are still salty about Bayonetta becoming a Nintendo series.
I'm super stoked for this Kirby game. I love watching videos like Abandoned, Dead Malls, and all that kind of fun, so playing as Kirby in a Kirbified version of that sort of setting is right up my alley.
Ludendorkk
(he/him)
I trust HAL blindly with the Kirby franchise, the current team is phenomenal and has the rare combination of complete reverence for the series past while embracing its experimental nature.
Also we don't actually get that many 3D platformers anymore so
Also we don't actually get that many 3D platformers anymore so
The only thing that's either-or for me about it is the setting--a kind of "concept artist's Pixiv portfolio" aesthetic with the Earth-after-humans scenery you can see in uncountable other things, but even that seems to be getting an imaginative enough treatment in this context. I'm very happy that the dimensionality is something completely new for Kirby, and whatever 3D Mario analogue it lands closest to, this at least will be exploring those kinds of platformer concepts with a series I'm not ambivalent or averse to. I concur that 3D platformers are traditionally underserved by the medium, so seeing anyone giving it a go is heartening.
Regulus
Sir Knightbot
I’ve been somewhat interested in a 3D Kirby since City Trial mode in Air Ride. You could hop off your ride a run around with Kirby’s standard move set. You generally didn’t want to spend much time like that, but it was pretty cool nonetheless. The mechanics in this look like they hew pretty close to the standard Kirby formula.
The “abandoned civilization” theme reminds me of some of the implications of Shiver Star back in Kirby 64. A frozen over world that resembles Earth… filled with empty malls and still-running factories.
The “abandoned civilization” theme reminds me of some of the implications of Shiver Star back in Kirby 64. A frozen over world that resembles Earth… filled with empty malls and still-running factories.
ArugulaZ
Fearful asymmetry
Post-apocalyptic Kirby. Never saw that coming, but I can see this working. I've watched the footage and think to myself, "Yeah, I could play this. In fact, I want to play this right now." I just hope it won't spell the end of 2D Kirby, but really, I doubt that will come to pass.
The "expanded online pass" is questionable, though. I'm a proponent of "once you buy a prize it's yours to keep," and there are so many ways to play Genesis games in 2021 that lumping them into an ephemeral subscription service makes very little sense. I have most of what will be offered on the service on the Genesis Mini, some of it on Sega Genesis Classics for the Switch, a few games on Sega Ages for Switch, and numerous Genesis games for the 3DS, PSP, Vita, Steam, and Xbox 360. We've reached a point where it's possible to not only own the same game on different formats over the span of several generations, but the same game multiple times on the same system. (I know, "just buy one of those games." Still, it's weird having the same ground tread and retread on the same format.)
Also, don't screw with the stupid three button Genesis controller. An 8BitDo M30 offers more buttons and wider compatibility for like, thirty bucks. Maybe less during a sale. I'm vaguely offended that they thought there was even a market for this. Three buttons on a controller weren't even enough in 1993, let alone today.
The "expanded online pass" is questionable, though. I'm a proponent of "once you buy a prize it's yours to keep," and there are so many ways to play Genesis games in 2021 that lumping them into an ephemeral subscription service makes very little sense. I have most of what will be offered on the service on the Genesis Mini, some of it on Sega Genesis Classics for the Switch, a few games on Sega Ages for Switch, and numerous Genesis games for the 3DS, PSP, Vita, Steam, and Xbox 360. We've reached a point where it's possible to not only own the same game on different formats over the span of several generations, but the same game multiple times on the same system. (I know, "just buy one of those games." Still, it's weird having the same ground tread and retread on the same format.)
Also, don't screw with the stupid three button Genesis controller. An 8BitDo M30 offers more buttons and wider compatibility for like, thirty bucks. Maybe less during a sale. I'm vaguely offended that they thought there was even a market for this. Three buttons on a controller weren't even enough in 1993, let alone today.
I’m trusting that the emulation on the Switch Online Genesis games is a step above the myriad other ports of these games I’ve bought over the years.
…maybe not the Sega Ages line, but otherwise
…maybe not the Sega Ages line, but otherwise
For some reason they keep doing this in America and Europe. Japan is getting a six button version.
The Genesis controller is, just like that N64 controller, only there for fun and novelty, not for some kind of maximized emulation experience. It is very stupid and, ironically, very Nintendo.
I'm not going to buy it, but you just know that in like 15 years a complete in box Switch Genesis controller will cost like $800 on the used market.
I'm not going to buy it, but you just know that in like 15 years a complete in box Switch Genesis controller will cost like $800 on the used market.
3 has never not been the weirdest number of buttons