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Project Triangle Strategy: Octopath Tactics

ThornGhost

lofi posts to relax/study to
(he/him)
I did Benedict first, because it was how I felt my Serenoa would answer. I loved how each of the decisions in this game was morally ambiguous, this late one included.

I decided to let the game sit a bit after that because the story I chose was important to me and felt that bombing through the other major lines too quickly would diminish that, though I do mean to go back at some point.
 

Kalir

Do you require aid.
(whatevs)
One of my favorite things about those endings is that you will absolutely get what you set out for, for better and worse. You will have violently yanked the whole of Norzelia towards the ideal you chose, and it will not be a clean move.
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
I surprised myself by going with Benedict after all. The idea of abandoning the Wolffort demesne was just too much for me (i.e. my Serenoa). Also, I guess the whole "strength of your convictions" is thematic, but man, I really turned against Roland as a character at the end here, both for his absurd idea to capitulate to Hyzante, the way he told Frederica that the Roselle were a price he was willing to pay, and how he took my choosing Benedict's path, challenging me to a duel and kinda throwing a tantrum about his inferiority complex. He strikes me as just being weak and stupid.
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
I was doing that the whole playthrough, so when I first reached the decision I thought I would be doing the same! Up until right when I started talking to influence people and I was like, nah, I gotta see this through after all.
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
The next battles after the decision were relatively easy, and now I'm at the final battle, and what the fuck. The goddamn boss's ability killed like 3 of my people and gravely wounded 2 others, all at once, on its first turn. One failed attempt down, who knows how many more to go.

Fake edit: I read the opponent's abilities but apparently missed a key thing about the targeting of that ability, so I have something different to try for next time now.
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
Aaaand finished. Thoughts on the ending:

One of the reasons I went with Benedict's route was that as king, Serenoa could make a better life and better nation, but it becomes clear that he really is a puppet to Benedict. We see the Rosellans freed, but living in poverty as late-capitalist-style "freedom" dominates and makes the rich richer and the poor poorer; I didn't realize that this Aesfrosti ideal would extend to Norzelia when I chose the path, since it doesn't necessarily have to go hand in hand. But Benedict cows Serenoa to block any attempt to aid the poor, especially the Rosellans. Meanwhile, Serenoa tells Benedict he needs him, which is probably true, as he's become a weak ruler in his own right. This kinda seems like a trap ending, where the reasons you choose it get yanked out from under you, as opposed to the others where (if I'm reading them right) you basically get what you picked in the long-run. (e.g. if you pick Roland's ending, you know you're sacrificing the Rosellans for the 'greater good' and giving the country to Hyzante, and that's pretty much what happens.) If I'd known allying with Aesfrost meant adopting their ideals, I don't know that I would've picked it. I suppose this wasn't unpredictable with the right amount of critical analysis, but it felt like the relevant info came after the decision instead of before. This route seemed to promise the most positive outcome of possibilities but ends with a pretty stark downside. But I suppose the other normal endings aren't any different either, and that's why there's a golden ending to balance out the good and bad.
 

Juno

The DRKest Roe
(He, Him)
Aaaand finished. Thoughts on the ending:

One of the reasons I went with Benedict's route was that as king, Serenoa could make a better life and better nation, but it becomes clear that he really is a puppet to Benedict. We see the Rosellans freed, but living in poverty as late-capitalist-style "freedom" dominates and makes the rich richer and the poor poorer; I didn't realize that this Aesfrosti ideal would extend to Norzelia when I chose the path, since it doesn't necessarily have to go hand in hand. But Benedict cows Serenoa to block any attempt to aid the poor, especially the Rosellans. Meanwhile, Serenoa tells Benedict he needs him, which is probably true, as he's become a weak ruler in his own right. This kinda seems like a trap ending, where the reasons you choose it get yanked out from under you, as opposed to the others where (if I'm reading them right) you basically get what you picked in the long-run. (e.g. if you pick Roland's ending, you know you're sacrificing the Rosellans for the 'greater good' and giving the country to Hyzante, and that's pretty much what happens.) If I'd known allying with Aesfrost meant adopting their ideals, I don't know that I would've picked it. I suppose this wasn't unpredictable with the right amount of critical analysis, but it felt like the relevant info came after the decision instead of before. This route seemed to promise the most positive outcome of possibilities but ends with a pretty stark downside. But I suppose the other normal endings aren't any different either, and that's why there's a golden ending to balance out the good and bad.
To offer a slight rebuttal-

1. As someone who went with Frederica's route first, I don't feel like the game explicitly communicated how bad things would end up for Norzelia on that route either. I certainly underestimated it. I also certainly didn't predict that (Major spoilers for Frederica's route) Serenoa would die.

2. During the debate prior to the last vote, Frederica does explicitly say that everyone's indifference to the Roselle is ultimately the source of her people's woes, Benedict responds to that claim by saying to wait to discuss the Roselle later, and Frederica explicitly says "No, I've heard that before. Your 'due time' is never, and I will not have you cast us aside for another 3 decades or more". To me, this exchange feels like the game communicating to you what's going to happen in his route, though I grant it's not very explicit.

3. I do agree that, prior to voting, Roland's route offers the most clear view of what would end up happening.
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
Noted on #1, and #2 is certainly a fair point that I didn't forget, it's a pretty strong foreshadowing.

Oh well, that's part of the beauty of the game, is the moral ambiguity of all the choices and outcomes. Just gotta face it all with conviction, I guess!
 

Violentvixen

(She/Her)
They've added an update with a bonus epilogue (I think it might only be available if you've beaten the Golden Route). I liked it, tied things up well, and glad to finally see the fancy dress and outfit for the bride and groom.
 
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