Fire Storm is the new Abjuration: Talking About Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup

[CaptBlasto]

So I came across Crut this morning when I finished up my DeHu of Chei game. I don't think he made it through the forum move, as he's been focused on Grad School. I invited him to join us, but he said he's sadly retired from crawl. Be on the lookout though if you are playing early morning EST!

 

[Rebelfire]

Thought it was interesting to note that Djinni have been added to trunk

if you start as a caster you start with all the spells from your book. Sif Muna is not a fan.

 

[Mogri]

Oh nice! I remember liking them the last time they added them -- any idea what's changed? At a glance, I don't remember the spellcasting being weird last time.

 

[Rebelfire]

Dunno, never played original Djinni. The spellcasting schools dont show up even when you know a spell (that apt image is from a FE start) so their casting scales purely off of spellcasting. They have that +4 hp mod but their hp growth is weak. Haven't played them really so I don't know if anything changes at later levels.

 

[Gerad]

There's an 0.27 tournament...starting today. Probably pretty short notice to get a team together, but I'm sure I'll play some if anyone else wants to. I do have a 1 month-old son now, so that'll put a crimp in the ol' playing time.

Tourney Link

 

[aturtledoesbite]

what the fuck have they done

 

[Gerad]

what the fuck have they done

A lot of things!

 

[aturtledoesbite]

*pours one out for Ash*

 

[CaptBlasto]

Man, I haven't even thought about crawl since the last tournament. I might get a game in, but this is a busy couple of weeks for me. Are the new changes good? Or is it more of the nerf/change the fun stuff?

 

[Gerad]

Man, I haven't even thought about crawl since the last tournament. I might get a game in, but this is a busy couple of weeks for me. Are the new changes good? Or is it more of the nerf/change the fun stuff?

They feel pretty minor to me. The biggest difference is the spell books being reconfigured -- several backgrounds are missing what used to be their major spell. But it doesn't feel terrible by any means.

No problem if no one else is up for this.

 

[Sporophyte]

This is just a really crowded time for me game wise. If I finish Ace Attorney Chronicles, Neo TWEWY, and Blaster Master Zero 3 before this ends I will play some, but it is a tall order.

 

[CaptBlasto]

I did set up my rcfile, so we are officially a team. Gerad is carrying hard with 2 wins.

Team Page Link

 

[Gerad]

I did set up my rcfile, so we are officially a team. Gerad is carrying hard with 2 wins.

Team Page Link

Haha, cool, thanks. Got a Nemelex' Choice with DjWn!

 

[CaptBlasto]

Banged out a MiWz 4 rune, since I lost my greaterplayer status when they changed Wizard to Hedge Wizard. Seems like there are some interesting new evocables, like Xom's Chesspiece, though I feel like its probably never getting used. The new tiles for certain enemies are nice! It was time for an upgrade.

 

[CaptBlasto]

Hey, look who I found! Also, 4 ghost vault

 

[Destil]

Did a few runs yesterday and wow I still don't like the new low-level magic at all. Why get rid of sticky flame? That was super iconic for FEs.

Fire being so unreliable has at least forced me to branch out, tried TeAE and DEEE so far...

 

[Mogri]

All low-level magic is unreliable. O+Tab, on the other hand, will never let you down, give you up, run around, or desert you.

 

[JBear]

All low-level magic is unreliable. O+Tab, on the other hand, will never let you down, give you up, run around, or desert you.

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[Destil]

Aim: Crazy Yiuf, wielding a +3 quarterstaff of chaos and wearing a +0 cloak
(heavily wounded, 83% to hit)
The blast of sand hits Crazy Yiuf but does no damage.
Crazy Yiuf is heavily wounded.
Crazy Yiuf hits you with a +3 quarterstaff of chaos!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Crazy Yiuf attacks as you move away!
Crazy Yiuf hits you with a +3 quarterstaff of chaos!
Ouch! That really hurt!
You die...

Uhm, what?

WHAT!?

Holy fuck we already had speed randomization. I think another death yesterday was this, too, but I didn't notice until now.

Well, guess I'm out again. Have a nice life, DCSS.

EDIT: New airstrike is also absurdly stupid and fiddly.

 

[Mogri]

According to that page, this replaces speed randomization, and it's getting toned down in the next release. The devs really hate kiting, though, huh?

 

[JBear]

I mean, in a lot of cases it would be pretty indistinguishable from speed randomization, I'd think, although the numbers do seem high. They both have the result of you occasionally getting smacked when you're kiting something adjacent.

 

[Mogri]

Right -- it's clearly chasing the same goal, but it seems extremely overtuned. Besides, didn't speed randomization occasionally let you double-turn something?