Final Fantasy Tactics ReWhatever Is A Real Thing

[That Old Chestnut]

Wiegraf fight is still a pain in the ass.

I just got to this a few days back (on Tactician no less, because I'm a self-flagellating purist I guess), and had to back out completely because there was nothing I could do. Not with my Ramza's skillset at the time, anyway.

I finished the game on Tactician recently. I tried to avoid random battles...

Oh not me. Once I hit the wall with Wiegraf, I started grinding like a goddamn apothecary. It probably didn't help that it had been literal decades since I played through this, and therefore didn't remember enough to really optimize my build .

That, and I just really like grinding JP. I'm a JP junkie. I like making my little grid dudes do cool things.

 

[Violentvixen]

had to back out completely because there was nothing I could do. Not with my Ramza's skillset at the time, anyway.

Yeah, I'd forgotten the fight started with the 1:1 battle and got annihilated immediately as Ramza was an archer. Redid things, made it to the second stage and killed a couple demons but still got wiped out. Decided to back out to the map and go buy some chameleon robes and whatever bracelet blocks confusion and will try again this weekend.

I finished the game on Tactician recently. I tried to avoid random battles... I think I only fought 5 or 6 the whole game, so I was significantly under the enemy level for most of the game.

Damn I'm impressed.

That, and I just really like grinding JP. I'm a JP junkie. I like making my little grid dudes do cool things.

Same! I try to have all tavern quests cleared before advancing the story and so spend a lot of time wandering around. I like being able to select which stage I battle on, that's very nice. If that was in the original I don't remember it, but I thought it was all random.

 

[That Old Chestnut]

I didn't even get past the 1:1 !

And yeah, if I remember right, the original had you wandering from spot to spot until a battle triggered, so getting to just pick a spot to fight is a great concession. Though I did find out that if you fight in one spot enough times, the game makes you move on to another spot and come back before you can fight at your preferred spot again.

I'm also liking the voicework more than I thought I would!

 

[Torzelbaum]

I'm also liking the voicework more than I thought I would!

I don't hate it (and the new script) as much as I thought I would.

But I do have a couple of nitpicks:
1. Argath/Algus's voice just isn't quite punchable enough.
2. Changing the insulting version of Elmdor's nickname to the Silver Demon was a change for the worse.

 

[That Old Chestnut]

Argath/Algus's voice just isn't quite punchable enough.

This is just a me thing, but I actually really liked his voice direction. Just snotty enough to nail the arrogant noble archetype, but also able to speak with enough conviction to be taken seriously as both a threat and a tragic figure, even if a lot of the tragedy is of his own making. This motherfucker is a true believer, twisted as those beliefs are.

A lot of my opinions are probably also colored by the fact that this is the first time I've done a serious playthough of this game with an updated translation (I tried with the PSP and iPhone versions way back when, but didn't get too far), and damn if it ain't like I'm just seeing this world for the first time.

Also finally beat that bastard castle, no thanks to Rapha's ass trying to belly flop onto the nearest sword the whole time. Like, DUDE YOUR BRAVERY AIN'T EVEN 40 WHAT ARE YOU DOING????

 

[That Old Chestnut]

Okay, so you know that one random encounter you can get at Grogh Heights that's like 12 monks at once?

...

I fuckin' won it


Granted most of that was just me abusing Arithmetiks to cover 'em in status effects, but still!

 

[Torzelbaum]

I recently came across this video of a couple of the English voice actors playing through a little bit of the game. It's a nice watch.

Okay, so you know that one random encounter you can get at Grogh Heights that's like 12 monks at once?

...

I fuckin' won it


Granted most of that was just me abusing Arithmetiks to cover 'em in status effects, but still!

I also fought the Oops! All Monks battle recently. (Using Earth Clothes / Gaia Gear and Draw Out / Iaido was my winning strategy but it was a long, drawn-out fight.)

 

[Torzelbaum]

Anyone still playing this?

I was playing for 100% achievements and finally got all of them. I have 127 hours of playtime (but that probably could have been done in less time).

 

[Violentvixen]

Anyone still playing this?

I was playing for 100% achievements and finally got all of them. I have 127 hours of playtime (but that probably could have been done in less time).

I beat it, I'm not going for 100% or anything for now but really, really enjoyed my time with it.

 

[4-So]

I dropped off of it, trying for 100%. I think I was one or two fights away from the end, based on my convo with my FFT superfan cousin, so I should probably just finish it.

 

[Torzelbaum]

I beat it, I'm not going for 100% or anything for now but really, really enjoyed my time with it.

I finished the final story battle near the beginning of November. I wasn't playing every day but it still took a while to get the 100%.

I dropped off of it, trying for 100%. I think I was one or two fights away from the end, based on my convo with my FFT superfan cousin, so I should probably just finish it.

Do you remember what the last battle was that you completed?

 

[4-So]

Do you remember what the last battle was that you completed.

I think I have to go to a church or something? Last thing I did in the game was the battle with Adrammelech.

 

[Mogri]

Yes, that's in the endgame sequence. You're very nearly done.

 

[Torzelbaum]

I did a little more skill gathering and then completed a victory lap where I clobbered the final battles. I got a lot of play time (over 130 hours) out of the game but I think I'm done for now.

On a side note - Move+3 Ninjas are terrifying. I'm glad they're generally only ever on my side.

Also, if you want to see some interesting gameplay you could watch this series of videos for a "solo" Ramza playthrough (which is still currently in-progress):

 

[Mogri]

True Doom Murderheads run single-class solo Ramza challenges. (I did one back in the day -- I was the first to win a run with a dummied Priest, which could equip anything at the relatively minor cost of having 0 C-Ev.)

A surprising number of jobs are winnable under those restrictions. Bard is not one of them.

 

[Falselogic]

This is my break game from the RE series. I started it a few days ago. I thought I remembered things. But all of this seems so new. I'm like a newborn baby exploring tactics for the first time.

Do I try to understand the story within a story this time? Will any of these names ever make sense to me? Who knows?

 

[Torzelbaum]

I thought I remembered things. But all of this seems so new. I'm like a newborn baby exploring tactics for the first time.

What difficulty are you playing on? Are you playing in classic mode or modern? Modern has added some nice quality of life features but seems to have tweaked boss HP by varying amounts.

Do I try to understand the story within a story this time? Will any of these names ever make sense to me? Who knows?

How much do you like to read optional in-game lore dumps? Chronicles has a lot of that to help you keep things straight (and add flavor to flesh out the world). I think the new translation helps with that but it's still possible to lose track of everyone and everything that's going on. (If only they had added a scorecard.)

 

[Falselogic]

I'm playing the modern version and on 'Knight' which appears to be the default level of difficulty.

 

[Torzelbaum]

If anyone is looking for an excuse to re-visit the game then you might be pleased to learn that a patch (1.5.0 on Steam) was released in June* that adds New Game+. There was a minor fix, 1.5.1, that fixed a minor complaint that people had about NG+. I don't know if I'll be diving back in but it's neat that they added this.

*But I only found out about it today.

 

[Aurelia]

Thanks for posting about it! New Game+ being released in an update is genuinely really cool, and something I'm absolutely going to check out when I play the rerelease someday.

 

[Falselogic]

Goddess, they really want you to hate Argath...

 

[FelixSH]

He is the absolute worst, yeah.
Also, don't see why the story wouldn't make sense. As I understand it, the psx translation is rough, but more modern ones are pretty good. You might get lost a bit in the details, but on the whole, you should be fine.

 

[Falselogic]

He is the absolute worst, yeah.
Also, don't see why the story wouldn't make sense. As I understand it, the psx translation is rough, but more modern ones are pretty good. You might get lost a bit in the details, but on the whole, you should be fine.

It's keeping track of all the proper nouns. I know there are two sides trying to take over one country but Im never sure which side is which and which folks belong to each...

 

[FelixSH]

Yeah, fair. I think I never quite knew who which side was which? I still found one of the best stories in video games. In case you worry you might really get lost, just focus on your characters, and you won't.

 

[Sarcasmorator]

It matter less which side is which and more that they’re making demonic pacts.

 

[Regulus]

The details behind the politics and machinations matter more for Delita's part of the story than Ramza's, so there's still plenty to enjoy even if you lose track of those details. The new State of the Realm feature does help give context to all of it (chronologically and geographically, even), so it might be easier to follow in this version.