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Face Front, True Believers! A Marvel Comics Thread

gogglebob

The Goggles Do Nothing
(he/him)
His power, being able to understand and translate languages, is far from being flashy, but good writers were able to get a lot of interesting mileage out of it. I haven't read anything of the stuff after his resurrection, but apparently, he's a superb fighter now? Sigh.

Legitimately, you have to understand that comics are a visual, action-based medium, and no "intellectual" powers are ever going to avoid drifting into something that would be more appropriate for multiple fight scenes. I mean, what would you expect? It's not like the X-Men writers could instantly produce a memorable, evergreen character out of, like, a dude that just sits in a wheelchair and thinks all the time.
 

Jeanie

(Fem or Gender Neutral)
Okay but they also love killing Professor Xavier. Like they first did that back when there only five X-Men. Also he doesn't stay in the chair long.
 
2, in fact.

I think the next issue will clear some things up. Also, just a heads up but I think issues like #4-12 or so are the weakest of the 100 issue run. The Liefeld/Simonson issues near the end are probably objectively worse, but they had such profound anti-chemistry as a creative team that they go all the way around to being an oddly enjoyable mess.

The biggest bummer from New Mutants for me was that they killed off Cypher for a loooong time. His power, being able to understand and translate languages, is far from being flashy, but good writers were able to get a lot of interesting mileage out of it. I haven't read anything of the stuff after his resurrection, but apparently, he's a superb fighter now? Sigh.

I think this is mostly fixed. He's currently the only guy who can communicate with the sentient island everyone lives on, and his most recent (to me anyway) story was about how he's a terrible fighter. So, at the moment, he is maybe more central than he's been in decades and actually doing language stuff instead of Reading Body Language or whatever, which seems to have basically been swept under the rug (correctly, in my opinion).

(I guess technically his most recent to me story was an abrupt marriage to an Original Crossover Event Character in an event that I thought was mostly terrible, but maybe they'll do something interesting with it later. Also, back to the powers issue, the marriage is also a language related story for him.)

Okay but they also love killing Professor Xavier. Like they first did that back when there only five X-Men. Also he doesn't stay in the chair long.

I will never miss a chance to talk about how soon he started to walk. He had built a walking machine by issue #23!



For some reason he used it to dress up as a cranky old man and yell at The Locust:



My favorite part of the original Xavier Walks Saga though was that the machine was imperfect, and so he also built Safety Tentacles to catch him if he fell down the stairs:

 
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Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
"Some sort pf hermit... in the garb of a past cenury. Begone! The Locust needs no friends!" is an intensely funny line to me
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
"The time will come when I may ask them to risk, or even sacrifice their lives, and when that day comes, it will only happen if that order comes from a place of respect"

Hey... Hey Chuck?

Hey Chuck?

That's a pretty friggin' messed up thought to have about teenagers, Chuck.

That's a really messed up thing to think about Teenagers who you are the primary caregiver for, Chuck.

CHUCK, GO TO JAIL NOW, PLEASE!
 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
YOU HAVE KNOWN THESE KIDS FOR, LIKE, THREE MONTHS. YOU'VE TRIED TO MURDER ALL OF THEM FOR 2 OF THOSE MONTHS BECAUSE YOU WERE A BUG-LIZARD AT THE TIME.
 

LBD_Nytetrayn

..and his little cat, too
(He/him)
Hey... Hey Chuck?

Hey Chuck?

That's a pretty friggin' messed up thought to have about teenagers, Chuck.

That's a really messed up thing to think about Teenagers who you are the primary caregiver for, Chuck.

CHUCK, GO TO JAIL NOW, PLEASE!
Oh, I dare say that's par for ol' Chuck...


 

Octopus Prime

Mysterious Contraption
(He/Him)
It’s telling that there’s, like, three distinct villains who were created because Chuck just can’t stop thinking about how much he’s going to need to kill some teenagers
 
Have a strongly held feeling that Professor X really isn't that bad. He is just sometimes written to have done bad things, like all comic book characters. Characters I don't like? Are willfully evil.

Sometimes I wonder how some of his mind control antics read in the 60s but I'll never know because I'm young. I'm 23, even.
 

Positronic Brain

Out Of Warranty
(He/him)
I honestly wonder how much of that early Xavier creepiness was just Stan Lee being Stan Lee. Which doesn't excuse the creepy, but it'd explain so much (I still cringe at early FF and Invisible "I know my place" Girl)
 

Fredde

Let me rock you Chaugnar Faugn
Regarding the previous discussion on Cypher, I found this idea funny (from the comments to this excellent blog post):

The more I think about it, the more I realize that one of the most entertaining stories you could do with Doug Ramsey is that his power to comprehend all communication makes him understand the almost intolerable privilege he enjoys as an upper middle-class white boy attending a private academy for "special" children, and it damn near crushes him with guilt.
 
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