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Eating Like An Earl - Talking Time's Top Sandwiches
- Thread starter Torzelbaum
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We've got a long entry coming up here. How long? It's either bun-length or about a foot. (It also has one of the largest changes in points between entries.)
Time travel back with me to Frankfurt, Germany in the 13th century where they created a pork sausage called a Frankfurter Würstchen. In the 18th/19th century a butcher is said to have taken the sausage to Vienna* but modified the recipe to add beef and this new sausage was just called a Frankfurter. German immigrants carried the traditions of these sausages to the US. It's still not known exactly who originated it but at some point in the late 1800s/early 1900s American sausage sellers started serving frankfurters in buns. Dog had been used to refer to sausages since the 1800s - the frankfurter and this new sandwich made with it both became known as hot dogs (among many other names). The hot dog and its many variations have since spread around the world.
*Which is where the term wiener comes from.
@Alex @JBear @RT-55J and I just voted for hot dogs in general with no other specifics but a couple of voters were more specific with their favorite hot dogs.
@Daikaiju likes a Nathan's hot dog with mustard and relish.
And @nataeryn likes a chili cheese hot dog.
But the "standard" hot dog in a bun wasn't the only way people voted for it.
@Kirin likes Korean corn dogs.
And I also voted for pigs in a blanket.
#9
category hot dog
161 points, 8 votes
Staunchest Sandwich Supporter: Daikaiju (#5)
Tour Locations:
Altoona, Pennsylvania
Dallas, Texas
Vancouver, British Columbia
New York City
Peoria, Illinois
category hot dog
161 points, 8 votes
Staunchest Sandwich Supporter: Daikaiju (#5)
Tour Locations:
Altoona, Pennsylvania
Dallas, Texas
Vancouver, British Columbia
New York City
Peoria, Illinois
Time travel back with me to Frankfurt, Germany in the 13th century where they created a pork sausage called a Frankfurter Würstchen. In the 18th/19th century a butcher is said to have taken the sausage to Vienna* but modified the recipe to add beef and this new sausage was just called a Frankfurter. German immigrants carried the traditions of these sausages to the US. It's still not known exactly who originated it but at some point in the late 1800s/early 1900s American sausage sellers started serving frankfurters in buns. Dog had been used to refer to sausages since the 1800s - the frankfurter and this new sandwich made with it both became known as hot dogs (among many other names). The hot dog and its many variations have since spread around the world.
*Which is where the term wiener comes from.
@Alex @JBear @RT-55J and I just voted for hot dogs in general with no other specifics but a couple of voters were more specific with their favorite hot dogs.
@Daikaiju likes a Nathan's hot dog with mustard and relish.
And @nataeryn likes a chili cheese hot dog.
JBear said:
But the "standard" hot dog in a bun wasn't the only way people voted for it.
@Kirin likes Korean corn dogs.
And I also voted for pigs in a blanket.
It didn't occur to me to vote for corn dogs, but I'm a huge fan of those as well, from the deep fried "dippy dogs" at the county fair to the frozen "Pogos" available at every supermarket around here. That said, I've never really cared for the Korean variety. The wacky batters are some fun novelty, but the meat often has fish in it and I don't care for that as much.
Hah, I’d forgotten Korean was the one dog I put on my list. It was near the bottom, but only because of its debatable sandwich status. I only discovered the trendy Korean variety recently but I like it - the fancy batter toppings are fun, and while the ones I’ve encountered haven’t had fish, they do often have the option to be half-filled with cheese which I am absolutely here for.
I’ll also happily enjoy a variety of other dogs, franks, or wursts on buns though. Preferably with cheese and maybe onions.
I’ll also happily enjoy a variety of other dogs, franks, or wursts on buns though. Preferably with cheese and maybe onions.
On or in?
Whichever, but in the case of a classic American hot dog I was thinking shredded cheddar on top.
Melted/saucy cheese as a topping is also acceptable, except that unless you’re getting some kind of gourmet dog any liquid cheese is more likely to be some kind of “cheese food product” which I’m less excited about than, you know, real cheese.
I went with Chili Cheese as my dog of choice, but I'm also really happy with a plain ole Nathan's with ketchup and mustard too.
I would concur that ideal cheese is a shredded cheddar rather than a "cheese" sauce.
I also love a corn dog, be it frozen or county fair variety. And pigs in a blanket are pretty good too.
I can't get on board with some people's preference for the red hot dogs. It seems like a southern thing, but it could just be a cheap hot dog thing. I do really like Five Guys grilling strategy of splitting the dog lengthwise and then grilling it inside and out. If you don't cut through the casing on one side, it makes a nice pocket for fillings, and that style will sit flatter on a sub roll type of bread.
I would concur that ideal cheese is a shredded cheddar rather than a "cheese" sauce.
I also love a corn dog, be it frozen or county fair variety. And pigs in a blanket are pretty good too.
I can't get on board with some people's preference for the red hot dogs. It seems like a southern thing, but it could just be a cheap hot dog thing. I do really like Five Guys grilling strategy of splitting the dog lengthwise and then grilling it inside and out. If you don't cut through the casing on one side, it makes a nice pocket for fillings, and that style will sit flatter on a sub roll type of bread.
Johnny Unusual
(He/Him)
I'm of the "hot dog not a sandwich" but I really don't feel strongly enough to die on the hill. It feels real played out, like "Is Die Hard A Christmas Music" and "Bacon". Yeah, the internet didn't ruin bacon but it kind of ruined talking about bacon.
Except long bacon.
Except long bacon.
Johnny Unusual
(He/Him)
BTW, looking for submissions for the next list: top 50 Time Travelers. Please take part.
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Alright! It’s… TIME! Time to vote on your favourite time travelers in fiction and… reality? Well, we’ll get to that. But this character archetype isn’t just a character with a gift and/or a curse, it’s how we can use speculative fiction to explore some big-ass ideas. After all, the past is a foreign place and an inaccessible one. It’s easy to feel trapped in the now and while there are good things about this era, it’s not hard to see the scary stuff. If anything, that feeling of fear and of loss is what is the...
Issun
(He/Him)
LesbiaconI'm of the "hot dog not a sandwich" but I really don't feel strongly enough to die on the hill. It feels real played out, like "Is Die Hard A Christmas Music" and "Bacon". Yeah, the internet didn't ruin bacon but it kind of ruined talking about bacon.
Except long bacon.
When I was living in Boston, I used to go to this Venezuelan place with fantastic arepas, and this green mojo sauce that was absolute magic. I should see if I can find some arepas around here.
One of my oldest fond food memories is about a hot dog I had at a small stand at a mall back when I was young. Besides just being a good hot dog it also had a buttered toasted bun which made it very different from the hot dogs I would usually eat back then.
Johnny Unusual
(He/Him)
When I was 6 or so, my family was hiking a small mountain to the peak and I was complaining the whole time. Then I thought I smelled hot dogs and my parents did not dissuade me of the notion that their might be hot dogs at the top. There were not. I have not forgotten this...
I wonder if that hasn't happened for the Italian beef because our next entry stole its thunder.
#8
French dip
167 points, 6 votes
Staunchest Sandwich Supporters:
Lokii, WildcatJF* (#1)
Tour Locations:
Los Angeles, California
Monterey, California
French dip
167 points, 6 votes
Staunchest Sandwich Supporters:
Lokii, WildcatJF* (#1)
Tour Locations:
Los Angeles, California
Monterey, California
The French dip is a hot sandwich that two different Los Angeles restaurants claim as their invention. A French dip (or beef dip) is made with thinly sliced roast beef usually served on a French roll (which is where the sandwich gets its name). A popular variation† has Swiss cheese and onions added to it and is served with a cup of the broth made from cooking the beef. The broth is used as a delicious dip for the sandwich. Serving the sandwich with the broth is termed 'au jus' which is French for 'with juice'. Sometimes beef stock, a light beef gravy or beef consommé are substituted for the broth.
† I would dare say that this is the most popular variation.
But it's not the most popular variation for everyone. @WildcatJF voted for a different variation of the sandwich, the turkey dip, which he says is like a French dip but with turkey and a special au jus.
I dip, you dip, we dip:
@Lokii @nataeryn @Johnny Unusual @RT-55J
(I had the French dip at #3 on my list.)
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French or turkey?
jpfriction
(He, Him)
Portillos expanded into minnesota and opened one just down the road from my house so I can get a very good italian beef whenever I want one. Very dangerous! Luckily my family doesn’t care for the place so it is still a pretty rare indulgence.
French dips are fine, and was my goto as a child if chicken drummies weren’t an option. The roast beef is often pretty chewy, though, which is unpleasant.
TURKEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Issun
(He/Him)
Oh man I forgot French Dip. Really need to stop throwing my lists together at the last minute.
French dip is a classic for a reason. I've always maintained that you can judge a place by its french dip. If that sucks then they're probably not putting that much effort into anything else either
French dip is a classic for a reason. I've always maintained that you can judge a place by its french dip. If that sucks then they're probably not putting that much effort into anything else either
I would argue otherwise. Whatever you listed on there, on the spur of the moment, are your true faves.
I don't love the taste of most "dip" sandwiches, but I have to admit that the act of dipping your sandwich is pretty fun, so I'll fuck with one of these from time to time on that basis alone.
This is the way. My parents are both buttered toasted bun snobs, and that's how I was raised. Whenever we would go to a barbeque and someone was serving unbuttered, untoasted hamburger or hotdog buns, my father would try and insert himself into the process by volunteering to prepare some, and failing that, they'd both make snide, dissatisfied comments to each other and me quietly.
Oh man, Portillos! I'm glad to hear they're expanding.
Yes, while eating one you can often end up with pants and/or shirt au jus.
One of the worst eating experiences I ever had that I still have bad memories of to this day is a French dip that I had at this little restaurant in the middle of nowhere that my parents dragged me to when I was a kid.
There's a bar and grill near where I live that has a sandwich that they call an Italian beef but it is more like a French dip or maybe a cross between the two of them. But despite that confused identity it is still very tasty.
Deep Slice #4
I had considered combining this with entry #18 to make a category of non-beef burgers but I chose not to.
| Sandwich | Place | Points | Supporter |
|---|---|---|---|
| veggie burger | 57 | 24 | Alex (#12) |
I had considered combining this with entry #18 to make a category of non-beef burgers but I chose not to.