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Coffee: Roast, Drink, Enjoy!

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
My understanding is that it basically makes pourover-quality coffee but automatically, and at high volumes. Also has a thermal carafe to keep coffee hot instead of a glass+hotplate which doesn't maintain coffee quality as long or as well (I think?)

That said, there might be other similar machines that cost less out there, like the Bonavita BV01002US Coffee Maker.

In other coffee news, frustrated by the kalita wave filter fiasco (and their being very hard to find right now...) I might just pick up a Bodum pourover brewer, which doesn't use a paper filter at all! Can't run out and get stuck that way!
 

YangusKhan

does the Underpants Dance
(He/Him/His)
How do I make my own cold brew, provided I have the beans? I've been wanting to prep my own decaf cold brew, since that basically doesn't exist anywhere to buy, but I don't know how to like... soak the beans and stuff. Do I just have to find a cold brew making device or something?
 

Cyrael

...we're shy.
(he/him)
I usually just get a small cheesecloth bag or equivalent (steeping bags), load up with somewhat coarsely ground beans, drop it in a pitcher of water and leave it in the fridge for a a night or so before I pull it out and discard the grounds.

I am probably under-doing it, but it tastes good and thats all that matters.
 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
I use a French press for mine, but any old pitcher works fine too if you have something to filter the grounds out. Just grind beans (on the course side like Cyrael said), add room temperature water (I do 3:1 water:beans), leave it sit. I don't actually put mine in the fridge, though, I seal it with clingwrap (because French Press) and leave it on the counter for ~24 hours. I've heard as few as 12 hours or as many as 72, but 24ish seemed like a safe bet and I've had good luck with it.

The coldbrew keeps in the fridge for like, a weekish, and is certainly drinkable longer than that. One thing to keep in mind is that what this makes is a concentrate, and you want to cut it half-and-half with water or milk to get back to regular-strength coffee. Or drink it straight, I'm not the boss of you, whatever. Also you said decaf so I guess it doesn't matter as much for that either. Makes it last longer though!
 
This thread reminds me. For last x-mas, a friend bought me some Queer Wave Coffee outta Oakland for my secret santa gift. It's pricy but it's pretty dang good. The batch I had was super mellow and delicious. I'd be inclined to purchase on the regular if it weren't for the fact that I gave up coffee a while back in an attempt to both break a caffeine addiction, as well as to help get my GERDs under more control.

 

Paul le Fou

24/7 lofi hip hop man to study/relax to
(He)
Has anyone tried freezing coffee to make coffee ice cubes for later use in iced coffee without watering it down?

I'm fascinated by the concept, and would love to try it out, but when I think about many ice cubes you'd need to take hot coffee and turn it into iced coffee, I feel like you'd basically have to brew as much or more coffee to freeze into cubes as you do just to drink. Although I guess it makes more sense if you go by the pot and have some left over that you can throw in a tray...

I've thought about doing the same for tea, but again, see above. Hmmm...
 

Torzelbaum

????? LV 13 HP 292/ 292
(he, him, his)
I'm not sure where else to put this but this seemed like the best worst place.
 

John

(he/him)
I used to do the cold brew thing, had a Toddy pitcher. It ended up taking up too much room in the fridge, so now I just use Peet's Major Dickinson pods for our Keurig. They're convenient, decent tasting, though you've got the normal issues of cost and plastic waste. I used to wait until the pods were cool and rinse them out for recycling, but stopped doing that after I realized my local recycler doesn't take the type of plastic used in them.
 

Büge

Arm Candy
(she/her)
I'm not sure where else to put this but this seemed like the best worst place.
Can you give us the gist of the article, since it's paywalled
 

Torzelbaum

????? LV 13 HP 292/ 292
(he, him, his)
That's weird. I must have used a free view of something.

Basically a tech startup wants to "improve" coffee in a manner that puts Juicero to shame by brewing it and then freezing it in liquid nitrogen and shipping it to you in dry ice and then having you add water to thaw it out and then drink it.
 
So basically they're just adding the extra step of extra freezing and more expensive shipping to cold brew concentrate, which is both pretty easy to make at home and also already exists as a product you can buy if you don't want to make it yourself?

(And also, if you do want that frozen, and there are reasons you might.... Just pour the homemade or storebought cold brew concentrate into an ice try and put it in a freezer! You don't need to liquid nitrogen ship pre-frozen coffee concentrate... It not especially hard to freeze!)
 

Torzelbaum

????? LV 13 HP 292/ 292
(he, him, his)
Yes. But I also saw it as them coming up with a 'disruptive' alternative to freeze dried or instant coffee.

Also, “scientists from MIT, Apple, and Tesla,” are involved with this...
 
Yeah it sounds a lot like the dozens of times coked up startups have gotten excited about how they are going to "disrupt" transportation by "inventing" Taking a Bus, But Slightly More Convoluted and Obviously Worse.
 

Daikaiju

Rated Ages 6+
(He, Him)
Their idea is, you take a flash-frozen puck of concentrated brewed coffee out of your freezer, you place it into a cup, you pour hot or cold water over it, and hey presto, it’s a cup of coffee. That does, indeed, sound very easy and convenient, up to that point. The sales pitch for this, according to the uncritical writeup it got in the Boston Globe, is as follows: “A flash-frozen coffee puck that yields a perfect cup, no experience or equipment required.”

Which is sort of a weird claim, I think! Or in any event, at least one of the following three words—”experience,” “equipment,” or “required”—is being used very weirdly in it.

In order to get to the point at which your freezer has a flash-frozen puck of concentrated brewed coffee in it, the coffee beans that make that concentrated brewed coffee have to have been shipped from their place of origin, almost certainly in the global south, to a special 70,000-square-foot Cometeer factory in Gloucester, Massachusetts. There they are brewed into coffee using “proprietary and patented coffee-brewing machines”—developed by “scientists from MIT, Apple, and Tesla,” no less—”that fill thousand-plus-square-foot rooms.” The resulting brew is analyzed by “coffee masters—armed with Princeton degrees and poached from companies like Blue Bottle and George Howell Coffee.” Then it is flash-frozen, immediately, at minus-321 degrees Fahrenheit, certainly using highly specialized technology and chemistry; packed into special “aluminum-made capsules”; and “dumped into liquid nitrogen to freeze the coffee compounds.” Then it’s packed into dry ice, to keep it frozen, and shipped around the world to people who want to drink coffee this way.

In other words, just to get to the point at which your freezer has a Cometeer-brand flash-frozen puck of concentrated brewed coffee in it, some number of coffee beans must be subjected to the absolute most sophisticated, technologized, circuitous, wasteful process for making coffee in the entire history of life of earth. More experience and equipment are required to create a cup of Cometeer coffee than any other halfway plausible cup of coffee, literally ever. (You can tell the MIT, Apple, and Tesla scientists and Princeton-educated coffee-masters did a good job of brewing your coffee with proprietary machinery in Gloucester, Mass., flash-freezing it in liquid nitrogen, packing it in dry ice, and shipping it to your home for you to store in your freezer, because it tastes like you spent five minutes making it yourself using techniques that predate the advent of antibiotics.)
 

muteKi

Geno Cidecity
The worst part is it's fucking Massachusetts. If you want convenience coffee in MA you go to the Dunkin Donuts next door. If you don't like that one, you go to the fucking Dunkin across the street. If that one's too much for you, then go to the one the next block down.

Seriously, go look up how many Dunkins there are around MIT
 

Daikaiju

Rated Ages 6+
(He, Him)
The worst part is it's fucking Massachusetts. If you want convenience coffee in MA you go to the Dunkin Donuts next door. If you don't like that one, you go to the fucking Dunkin across the street. If that one's too much for you, then go to the one the next block down.

Seriously, go look up how many Dunkins there are around MIT
dunkin_v_starbucks_map.jpg
 
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