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Old 08-11-2014, 09:46 AM
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You mean the woman who saved a life by intimidating the anthropomorphic personification of the concept of death DEATH with a scowl?
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Old 08-28-2014, 06:07 AM
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And apparently Thud! is dark and grim too? It's next on my list.

Maybe Unseen Academicals is an attempt to recapture the humorous satire that first birthed Discworld, going as far as to make it a Rincewind/Wizards book? I can understand if forced comedy fails, but it it comes as a palate cleanser after a bunch of cynical books I can be more forgiving of it.
Thud's not so much dark and grim as it is a chuckling tribute to a genre that's inherently dark and grim (the "cop goes on vacation, falls into murder investigation" story). But there's a whole whack of stuff in there about slavery and civil rights that feels particularly anvilicious.

I get what Terry was going for with UA, but it just took too much setup to get to where things were going. It reads a lot like an inferior version of Moving Pictures, right down to the main character you know isn't ever going to show up again, the peripheral involvement of the Wizards, and the general disconnect with the now-"mainline" Vimes / Moist stories. It's almost self-consciously saying "okay, I know I've left this type of stuff behind, but I'm going to be done with all of this soon so have a callback before I go back to contemplating monetary theory and right-of-way disputes."
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Old 08-28-2014, 06:17 AM
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That's Snuff, not Thud. Thuds the one where they wind up resolving the Troll/Dwarf conflict by learning that the battle they were obsessing over didn't occur.

It also features Vimes getting possessed by the spirit of vengeance and wreaking bloody havoc while quoting a children's picture book.
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:01 PM
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That's Snuff, not Thud. Thuds the one where they wind up resolving the Troll/Dwarf conflict by learning that the battle they were obsessing over didn't occur.

It also features Vimes getting possessed by the spirit of vengeance and wreaking bloody havoc while quoting a children's picture book.
Ah, right. Enough with the un-descriptive onomatopoeiac titles already, Terry.

(Yes, I know there's in-universe references to both of those, but they're damned hard to keep straight)
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:54 AM
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Thud! is being difficult with me.

On the one hand, the Vimes side is being absurdly and stupendously awesome, with finely-tuned narrative, perfect prose, and just the right balance of humor and (ahem) darkness. It's so much better than Going Postal and more involving than Monstrous Regiment. (Which just goes to show how Pratchett seems to be much more comfortable writing Watch novels than any other type.)

On the other, the Angua/Sally side is exceedingly problematic, what with half of their page-time having them naked for no reason other than fanservice, their (otherwise interesting) investigation getting bogged down in a mental catfight over Carrot (and said investigation getting taken over by the male officers anyway), and, in the last bit I read, the narration of their "girls' night out" outright sniggering at the "beautiful airhead" who's too "dumb" to realize she's out of Nobby's league.

This is the very first time I've run into out-and-out fanservice in a Discworld book without it being called out, and it's weird.
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I've been getting into these books lately, and honestly they're among the only fantasy I can do anymore, besides the Locke Lamora books. And I'm realizing that, for all my cartography love, it's because there's deliberately no map. So many fantasy books use maps in a way that limits the imagination and results in stories where characters walk from one place to another for chapters on end, so desperate is the creator to build his/her world piecemeal. Discworld fills out its world purely through ideas, concepts and characters, and feels all the more real to me as a result.

Anyway, I'm not saying all other fantasy shares the same problems, but that's particularly why this series is scratching my itch right now. I read The Truth a long time ago, recently read Small Gods and am in the middle of Guards! Guards! The latter two have been the best, but at the time I appreciated Truth as someone in the copy editing trenches.
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Terry Prachett died
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:37 AM
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But...

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He shook his head. “There’s no justice.”
Death sighed. No, he said, ...there’s just me.
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:50 AM
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I had just finished Snuff last week and was in the opening pages of Unseen Academicals this morning.

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Old 03-12-2015, 10:08 AM
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Goddamnit that sucks
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:22 AM
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So, now I'm conflicted if I want to binge read the rest of Discworld, or just take my time as usual
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:31 AM
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I knew this was coming.

I knew.

I'm not ready for this. with whom do I file a complaint
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:42 AM
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I knew this was coming.

I knew.

I'm not ready for this. with whom do I file a complaint
I think my reaction was a resigned sigh and little else.

We all knew. Honestly, part of me is glad that it happened the way it did; his final book was wrapped up last summer, and he didn't suffer for too long beyond that.
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:49 AM
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I think my reaction was a resigned sigh and little else.

We all knew. Honestly, part of me is glad that it happened the way it did; his final book was wrapped up last summer, and he didn't suffer for too long beyond that.
Yep, well put. Taken before his time but still, what an amazing body of work he managed to complete while he was with us. I'm looking forward to sharing his books with my children one day.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:02 AM
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Long Mars isn't really the book I would have hoped to have been his last, if I had any say in the matter, but I'm also not so sure he had much of a hand in it either.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:03 AM
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I'm still crying at my desk. The Tweet from Death absolutely destroyed me.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:20 AM
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Long Mars isn't really the book I would have hoped to have been his last, if I had any say in the matter, but I'm also not so sure he had much of a hand in it either.
Raising Steam was his last I believe (a Discworld book, fittingly enough)
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:25 AM
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Default That being said, I liked Raising Steam a LOT more.

Raising Steam came out the year beforehand. Long Mars was a collaboration with Stephen Baxter, but it came out this past summer.

Unless he had another story or two written but unpublished, that'd be the last one.
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Long Mars isn't really the book I would have hoped to have been his last, if I had any say in the matter
Maybe he'll be like Tupac and put out more stuff after he "died"* than when he was alive. We can only hope.

* - Tupac's still alive. We all know it.
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God damn it, 2015.
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For the past twenty years, I've gotten a new Terry Pratchett book from my parents for Christmas every year.
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:23 PM
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I knew this was coming.

I knew.

I'm not ready for this. with whom do I file a complaint
None of were.

Maybe write the Disc's Death?
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One more?

And it's a Tiffany Aching novel?

Now I'm really crying. I love the Tiffany Aching books.
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Old 03-12-2015, 03:03 PM
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WHAT IS THAT SENSE INSIDE YOUR HEAD OF WISTFUL REGRET THAT THINGS ARE THE WAY THEY APPARENTLY ARE?

"Sadness, master. I think. Now-"

I AM SADNESS
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"In the Ramtops village where they dance the real Morris dance, for example, they believe that no-one is finally dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away - until the clock he wound up winds down, until the wine she made has finished its ferment, until the crop they planted is harvested. The span of someone's life, they say, is only the core of their actual existence."
Can we just make this the Pratchett quote thread now? I think that's going to make me feel marginally better.

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I like that quote.

I just heard about this and immediately bought two Discworld books. I'm going to try to read more often again, especially his works.
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Old 03-12-2015, 05:51 PM
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From the Discworld Emporium

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It was a revelation the way he could sprinkle stardust on a sentence and make it shine or take the germ of an idea, hold it up to the light, and within minutes polish it into something original, clever and very funny. We shall miss his many phone calls requesting information about police procedure, and latterly the location of a particular town, or the landscape of a train journey.
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Arggh... They say February is the cruelest month but this March has been crueler.

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LORD, WE KNOW THERE IS NO GOOD ORDER EXCEPT THAT WHICH WE CREATE...
Azrael's expression did not change.
THERE IS NO HOPE BUT US. THERE IS NO MERCY BUT US. THERE IS NO JUSTICE. THERE IS JUST US.
The dark, sad face filled the sky.
ALL THINGS THAT ARE, ARE OURS. BUT WE MUST CARE. FOR IF WE DO NOT CARE, WE DO NOT EXIST. IF WE DO NOT EXIST, THEN THERE IS NOTHING BUT BLIND OBLIVION.
AND EVEN OBLIVION MUST END SOME DAY. LORD, WILL YOU GRANT ME JUST A LITTLE TIME? FOR THE PROPER BALANCE OF THINGS. TO RETURN WHAT WAS GIVEN. FOR THE SAKE OF PRISONERS AND THE FLIGHT OF BIRDS.
it was impossible to read expression in Azrael's features.
LORD, WHAT CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR, IF NOT FOR THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN?
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