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Old 05-28-2009, 03:12 PM
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I'm pretty sure Grant meant to reply "tabletop is dumb" in response to Alixsar. I guess that's what he does now! He must've forgotten this time.
Non sequiturs are dumb.
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:19 PM
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:35 PM
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you're not allowed in my house again. I'm dead fucking serious.
Aww c'mon man.
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:51 PM
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no, dude. you can make fun of my music all you want, but smearing shit over one of the most positive influences in my life? fuck you, man.
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Old 05-28-2009, 05:07 PM
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I thought D&D was the most positive influence in your life...?

I dunno. Again, all I'm saying is that I've had nothing but bad experiences with tabletop games, and if you're just getting into it, you might too. That's it. I've had some REALLY bad experiences with some truly strange and bizarre individuals. I was being facetious earlier in the thread, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone. That's not what I was intending to do.
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Old 05-28-2009, 05:10 PM
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Geek bigotry is the most absurd and arbitrary kind of bigotry. Which makes it funny.
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Old 05-28-2009, 05:33 PM
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To be fair to Alixsar, I did find that even just walking into a Games Workshop or something was asking to be mocked and abused by elitist obsessive douchebags. But then, I myself partook in the hobby for a while, so I've got nothing against wargames themselves. Just another passtime to me, among many I've given a whirl and enjoyed.

But I can't say too many good things about what I've seen and heard to be the general fanbase, so perhaps Alixsar's sentiment in warning people is a good one, if not put forward very well.
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Old 05-28-2009, 06:31 PM
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Geek bigotry is the most absurd and arbitrary kind of bigotry. Which makes it funny.
seriously, geeks/nerds/dorks have a hard enough time as it is without us denigrating and mocking our own... I can't think of anything mor stupid then pushing people away from the things you love? What kind of f*cked up logic is that?
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:09 PM
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As for the expense, it's really not more expensive than someone who plays video games. For the cost of console alone with no games at all, you could get a healthy force for almost any miniatures game, and you would spend a good deal of time assembling and painting them up to your satisfaction.
The problem is I already play Video Games so I can't afford both.

I used to love a game called Hero Quest when I was younger, but I'm pretty sure that's kinda the baby version of the type of games you are talking about. lol
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:41 PM
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I used to love a game called Hero Quest when I was younger, but I'm pretty sure that's kinda the baby version of the type of games you are talking about. lol
I dunno about baby games. The more modern version of that would be something like this, maybe.
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:52 PM
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I used to love a game called Hero Quest when I was younger, but I'm pretty sure that's kinda the baby version of the type of games you are talking about. lol
HeroQuest is what got me into tabletop wargaming! My brother and I got it for Christmas when I was still a wee lad. HeroQuest was a collaboration (sp?) between Milton Bradley and Games Workshop. It was a small introduction yes. In every box though there was a glossy little sheet of paper with pictures of Games Workshops games (Warhammer Fantasy Battle (HWFB) & Warhammer 40,000 (WH40k)). How I lusted over those models and those games... But I had no money (I was 10 or something) and no place to buy them anyway. It wasn't until after I graduated from highschool and in community college that where I live got a hobby shop and I had money that I got into the game. Remembering HeroQuest I bought the rulebook for 40k and a bunch of Space Marines... I haven't looked back.

HeroQuest to this day is a fun little game to play, more like DnD light... the second Milton Bradley/Games Workshop collaboration, Battle Masters was closer to WHFB and tabletop gaming, even having to play on a hexgrid!
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:47 PM
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Battlemasters was incredible. I also played Heroquest a ton back in the day before I knew what an RPG even was. I have been a huge Descent fan ever since it came out, needless to say.

We don't have a Games Workshop store in the Twin Cities, probably because the niche is already well covered by other retailers, and that's probably a good thing. They have sales more often, and are less specialised/elitist about the particular hobby. I think there is a benefit to having the guys at the next table over playing Magic or D&D, theres alot of diversity. I am going to make it a point of going out for games more often, so i'll be ordering a nice carrying case for the summer.

What I think about 5th edition 40k:
I like it. They placed emphasis on Troops units. Troops win games now. Two of the three standard missions are objective-based, and only Troops can score objectives. Also the new line-of-sight/cover rules give weak models more staying power. The net result is that the min/maxed teams that used to be so prevalent, with only the two mandatory Troops and heavily emphasised Heavy Support, Elite, and HQ, are not competitive. Some people still play that style and just try to wipe you from the board, but since the games are only 5-7 turns, you can make it very hard for them with proper use of cover.

All in all, it just makes more sense, and they simplified vehicle damage, some of the universal special rules, morale in assaults, and they finally included statlines for all models and weapons in the back of the core rulebook.
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:44 PM
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God, we had HeroQuest and Battlemasters. I sooooo wish I'd held onto them but I was a kid and what did I know?
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:11 AM
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I used to be so into 40K when I was in high school, it wasn't even funny. I had a massive Ork army with a ton of custom-built vehicles and mechs I made of old toys and model kits, and a bunch of scenery made from old plastic containers. Shit was elaborate. But I only had like two friends who played it during the entire time I was into the hobby, and have no friends now who would even be slightly interested in playing.

I had a pretty good Heroclix collection going for a while, too, but again had no friends who were actually into it, and only played an small handful of times against people at hobby shops who were the insane psycho condescending ubernerd types. How can you look down on someone for not having as extensive collection as you when you, yourself, don't bathe daily? That's a rhetorical question, the answer is "because that's all you are as a human, is your miniature collection".

I would love to have a group of people to play a tabletop game with around here, who aren't frightening/exasperating to be around.
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Old 05-29-2009, 07:01 AM
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I guess contrary to alot of other people I have had some positive experiences. I have been playing on and off since ~1996(2-3 year breaks here and there) but have mostly with GW systems. These days I stick mostly to fantasy with a small group of friends but I have dabled in 40k, warmachine/hordes and Flames of war. I'd like to play other things but people tend to focus on what they know if theres already a workshop in town.

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I would love to have a group of people to play a tabletop game with around here, who aren't frightening/exasperating to be around.
Have you considerd trying a tournament once or twice? Perhaps ask around your local stockist or gw, they sometimes even run small jobs for learners. Chances are if theyre there on the day they have similar interests to you. I've met some people I look up from time to time for a game. Even if you aren't into comp it might be worth a thought.
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Old 06-01-2009, 12:28 PM
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I've never play in a tournament, mostly because I find the people who play in them more interested in crushing their opponent than playing a game that tells a story... This could be because that is what is popular in my area, I don't know. I do know that the organizer doesn't require models to be painted and allows proxies which attracts the worst kind of 40k players, as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:25 PM
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Im bumping the thread because Im wondering what effect if any the recession is having on your hobby (or desire to take said hobby up?) People are dropping like flies locally and trying to dump their armies on people still playing or the internet...

It's not a cheap hobby to start but now might be a good time to pick up someone just trying to make rent with a useless army on their hands. Sad thing is the sellers will never make anything close to what the spent on them
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Old 11-20-2009, 05:16 PM
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I'm not into minis, but I've been suffering from major wargaming ennui. Part of it has been the usual summer doldrums and my gaming buddy being out of town, but I've just been tired and worn down, no new games have interested me, and I've been playing video games instead.
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:25 AM
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I haven't been able to play much either (not counting Space Hulk) like I said people are just dumping their armies.. Which is sad I already have a hard enough time finding people to play with locally...

I could drive into Sacramento but its a hassle...
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:00 PM
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I'm not into minis, but I've been suffering from major wargaming ennui. Part of it has been the usual summer doldrums and my gaming buddy being out of town, but I've just been tired and worn down, no new games have interested me, and I've been playing video games instead.
Summer doldrums in November? Are you secretly living in the southern hemisphere?
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:07 PM
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Summer doldrums in November? Are you secretly living in the southern hemisphere?
It does stay pretty hot here well into November. I was running the A/C earlier in the week. I don't really consider summer to be over until I'm done with mowing the lawn.

But really what I meant was that I've basically been sick constantly since late September, which is usually when we get the first sign of a chill in the air down here, and that's after taking the summer off as usual because it's hot and I don't want to do thinkin' stuff.
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Yeah, I should pick up some new models if I see some cheap deals. I have one model kit unassembled, and I wasn't going to buy anymore until everything I had was painted and based. I'm really close to that goal, and it's kind of a big deal!

I don't think I would buy painted models however, but there are plenty of people who sell lots of assembled and unpainted models that I wouldn't mind getting cheap. 2750 points of Tau may not be enough.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:12 AM
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It does stay pretty hot here well into November. I was running the A/C earlier in the week. I don't really consider summer to be over until I'm done with mowing the lawn.

But really what I meant was that I've basically been sick constantly since late September, which is usually when we get the first sign of a chill in the air down here, and that's after taking the summer off as usual because it's hot and I don't want to do thinkin' stuff.
The South really is like a whole 'nother country.
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Old 11-18-2010, 04:50 PM
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So with the release of the Dark Eldar codex and new models I can't be the only one feeling the lust to start yet another army!

In other wargame news how do people feel about Privateer Press' transition to plastic model and army codexes?

Once again, the new DE models are beautiful. Much like the Dark Elf figures that came out last year for WH...
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Privateer Press' transition to plastic model and army codexes?
Really? Maybe I'll finally be able to buy an army. Oh wait, Warhammer 40K is plastic and I can't afford that.

Codexes sound good to me, as an outsider. Half the point of a minis game to me is the fluff, and more of it without trying to be a novel is a good thing. I don't expect it would take the place of the cards, and it might be too expensive for a person to pick up more than one, but it would make a good supplement for a true devotee of one's faction.

I've been reading the Hordes Evolution manual I got for real cheap at a yard sale the past few days (I know it's outdated by now, don't bother me) and it's really making me want to play. I wish I could afford to buy the Everblight army my friend's been trying to get rid of....
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One of these days I want to actually buy a set of Warmachine/Hordes minis and try to get that started with my gaming group, but at the moment we're settling on playing Necromunda (previously Mordheim) with the large stash of D&D/Star Wars minis that we have, with lego terrain.

I really wish minis weren't quite so expensive, especially because I'm convinced I'll end up botching a paint job.
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So with the release of the Dark Eldar codex and new models I can't be the only one feeling the lust to start yet another army!
What? Really? I've go a few thousand points of dark-eldar that have been gathering dust for years....
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I'm holding out for Sisters of Battle.
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I'm holding out for Sisters of Battle.
...You know they came out six years ago, right?
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I really wish minis weren't quite so expensive, especially because I'm convinced I'll end up botching a paint job.
You know you can strip them of paint and repaint them right?


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What? Really? I've go a few thousand points of dark-eldar that have been gathering dust for years....
Really! But once you've seen the new models you'll want to throw your old ones away.
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