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Old 01-17-2017, 03:23 PM
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Default Let's Make A Big Song And Dance About Talking Time's Top 50 Musical Numbers, Plus One

...like we always do. You all voted, and now we get to see which songs reach the greatest heights (in terms of rating, not on a musical scale). I want to give a big thanks to Positronic Brain for helping me to tally up all the songs into an actual list instead of a pile of numbers and fire.

225 songs were nominated, but only fifty-one made it to the top. Also, there are a great deal of ties in this list, hence the odd number. But after all, aren't we all a little odd? Don't we just want somewhere... to beloooooooong...

THE LIST
49. What's This? (tie)
49. This Is Halloween (tie)
49. Why Should I Worry (tie)
48. Cell Block Tango
46. Hot Patootie - Bless My Soul (tie)
46. Heaven On Their Minds (tie)
44. One More Sleep 'Til Christmas (tie)
44. Three Bedroom House (tie)
42. Deliver Us (tie)
42. Colours Of The Wind (tie)
40. Prologue (tie)
40. Barcelona (tie)
36. Springtime For Hitler (tie)
36. I Am Africa (tie)
36. Razzle Dazzle (tie)
36. Comedy Tonight (tie)
35. Another National Anthem
33. Pictures In My Head (tie)
33. I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow (tie)
31. Uncle Fucker (tie)
31. Do You Remember Love? (tie)
29. Movin' Right Along (tie)
29. Poor Unfortunate Souls (tie)
28. Puttin' On the Ritz
26. The Phantom Of The Opera (tie)
26. Kings of the World (tie)
25. Kiss The Girl
23. Rose's Turn (tie)
23. Mr. Cellophane (tie)
22. Sweet Transvestite
21. Alexander Hamilton
20. The Very Model Of A Modern Major General
19. Man or Muppet
18. Gaston
17. Circle of Life
16. Be Our Guest
15. Singin' In The Rain
14. Can You Picture That?
13. Part Of Your World
12. Beauty and the Beast
11. Ring Of Keys
9. I'll Make A Man Out Of You (tie)
9. One Day More (tie)
8. The Time Warp
7. The Bear Necessities
6. A Friend Like Me
5. Always Look on the Bright Side of Life
4. Pure Imagination
3. Somewhere Over The Rainbow
2. Rainbow Connection

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Old 01-17-2017, 03:45 PM
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Overture: Honorable Mentions

First though, I feel it would be remiss of me to avoid talking about the songs that just didn't quite make it. Each of these got voted more than 40 points, but not enough to get in.

55. Elephant Love Medley
Moulin Rouge
Score: 41
Mentions: 2


53. Mean Green Mother From Outer Space
Little Shop Of Horrors
Score: 42
Mentions: 2


53. The Room Where It Happens
Hamilton
Score: 42
Mentions: 2


52. I Dreamed A Dream
Les Miserables
Score: 43
Mentions: 2


And now, our feature presentation.

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49. What's This?
The Nightmare Before Christmas
Score: 46
Mentions: 2

When does it happen?
Jack, the Pumpkin King, is facing an existential crisis after being the embodiment of a single Holiday, and doing nothing but repeating the ritual every year. One day, while wandering through the woods, he steps through a door in a tree and finds himself transported to a land of snow, colourful lights and cheerful song.

Covered by whom?
Many artists. Most notably, Fall Out Boy.

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#49 This Is Halloween
The Nightmare Before Christmas
Score: 46
Mentions: 2


(the song proper begins at 1:20)

When does it happen?
Right at the beginning. The rhyming narrator explains how holidays work, and how each holiday has a magical realm associated with it. The Jack-O'Lantern-shaped door opens, giving us a glimpse into the twilight world of Halloween Town.

Covered by whom?
Again, lots of artists. Disney released a whole album that was nothing but covers of songs from TNBC. Depending on who you ask, the most well-known cover is by Panic at the Disco or Marilyn Manson.

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#49. Why Should I Worry
Oliver & Company
Score: 46
Mentions: 2


When does it happen?
At the beginning of the film. Oliver is a kitten left alone after the other kittens are adopted, so he wanders the streets of Manhattan. He encounters Dodger, a streetwise mutt who has Oliver help him steal hot dogs from a cart, but Dodger makes off with the spoils.

Covered by whom?
Officially? No one that I can find. Billy Joel sang the original song, and he's a difficult act to follow, but it's a Disney song. I'm sure if you wandered around Disney World long enough, you'd hear it. There are a lot of musical acts on youtube that have covered the song, however.

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[SIZE="5"]Overture: Honorable Mentions53. Mean Green Mother From Outer Space
Little Shop Of Horrors
Score: 42
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Dang.


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49. What's This?
The Nightmare Before Christmas

Covered by whom?
Many artists. Most notably, Fall Out Boy.
Oh noooooooo. I can't even imagine.


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#49 This Is Halloween
The Nightmare Before Christmas
This might be a good song, but after endless repetitions in Kingdom Hearts I can't tell anymore.



Dang jeeze, does no one else like Mean Green Mother? It's a great song and there's also puppets!
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Old 01-17-2017, 07:45 PM
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Dang jeeze, does no one else like Mean Green Mother? It's a great song and there's also puppets!
Would have been my #26, but I ranked the one where Audrey II wants to eat people higher than this one.
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Mean Green Mother was on my list. I like Halloweentown but it didn't make my list.
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And I voted a completely different song from Little Shop!

Also for Halloween, so that's one from mine so far.
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Great list so far. The only one on my list is The Room Where It Happens, but other than maybe the one from Moulin Rouge, I can't argue against any of these.
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Talking who am I kidding THIS is TT of course I'll be disappointed.

Kicking myself that I didn't get a list in.

Please don't disappoint me TT
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I am a little sad that my list had "Why Should I Worry" but not "I Dreamed a Dream." I'm honestly pretty shocked that the former snuck on and I really expected the latter to make the list. The only reason it wasn't on mine is that I tried to stick to one song per movie/play and there is another song from Les Mis I like more.
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Please don't disappoint me TT
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It's too late, it's too late!
Disappointment's in the air
Moulin Rouge's unfair fate
Sitting right at fifty-five...

That's three dozen places too low.
Talking Time has voted wrong!
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(I voted for This Is Halloween, but I *almost* voted for What's This?. As fun as the later is, Jack's entrance in the former really makes an amazing impression.)

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I cannot tell if this bodes well or poorly for my choices, only the guarantee that nothing I have picked has appeared so far.
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I did not submit my list as I probably have bad taste. I did have "Why should I worry" on it. Despite never seeing the movie, I had the song on my ipod in college.

I didn't put the MR love medley on my list and I really should have thought of it. I really like it.

I've watched NBC when it comes on around halloween and I like the level in KH, but I'm not enamored with the movie like a lot of people. I really like the song where he explains Christmas to the halloweentown residents and they just don't get it. Good songs, but not my favorites, so not on my list.

edit: holy cow that song from Hamilton is good.

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I cannot tell if this bodes well or poorly for my choices, only the guarantee that nothing I have picked has appeared so far.
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The countdown's young
Don't despair, chin up!
So many worthy entries
Haven't shown yet
Sing your happiest song
The best is yet to come
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I didn't put the MR love medley on my list and I really should have thought of it. I really like it

It's your fault!

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It's Taeryns fault
The medley got disgraced
And was so badly placed
In this countdown!
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I feel bad that I didn't submit a proper list, but it's going to be lots of fun to follow along since every entry comes with a music video. You gotta love Billy Joel as a street-smart New York City dog wearing sunglasses, it's peak 1980s.

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edit: holy cow that song from Hamilton is good.
Hamilton is kind of amazing! Expect to see it pop up a few times on this list.
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The countdown's young
Don't despair, chin up!
So many worthy entries
Haven't shown yet
Sing your happiest song
The best is yet to come
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All I can say so far is that I'd put more of the honorable mentions in my mix than the winners .
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Three of my shits have come up already.
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I'm the reason Why Should I Worry made the list. It was my #7, and my second-highest ranked song from an animated film. The song is catchy and who doesn't enjoy watching that dog drag those sausages all over the city.

I also voted for What's This; I had it at #22. I actually don't care for the movie that much besides these two song sequences (and I didn't vote for This Is Halloween because Kingdom Hearts; Under the Sea suffered the same fate).
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:40 PM
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48. Cell Block Tango
Chicago
Score: 47
Mentions: 2


(song proper begins at 0:20)

When Does it happen?
Adulterous chorus girl Roxie unsuccessfully tries to escape a murder conviction of her lover, and she is tossed into Cook County Jail with several other female criminals. One of those women is Velma, another performer, who had killed her husband and sister after catching them having sex. The song is led into (in the film, at least) by the rhythm of water drops, footsteps and finger-tapping. It's cute.

Covered by whom?
Since the song is an ensemble piece, it doesn't quite lend itself to a cover, per se. However, it was performed on Glee.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:42 PM
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46. Hot Patootie – Bless My Soul
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Score: 48
Mentions: 2


When Does it happen?
Mad scientist Frank N. Furter decides to show his two guests, Brad and Janet, his creation: Rocky, a human made from body parts and brought to life. A celebration ensues, but is interrupted when Eddie, one of the brain donors for Rocky, rides out of a freezer on a motorcycle and bursts into song. That sentence makes less sense the more times I read it.

Covered by whom?
Well, the #1 spot in a youtube search is Adam Lambert's rendition. I think it's safe to say his star eclipeses all others.
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edit: holy cow that song from Hamilton is good.
I ranked other songs from Hamilton higher, but there's a good argument that that's the best song of the show.
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46. Heaven On Their Minds
Jesus Christ Superstar
Score: 48
Mentions: 2

When Does it happen?
At the very beginning. Judas is concerned that Jesus's influence over the people is getting them the wrong kind of attention by the Roman authorities. Oddly, in all the productions I've looked at, Jesus is depicted as the Western ideal of the white man with flowing golden locks and Judas is typically... well, less Caucasian. Not entirely accurate for Iron-Age Palestine, but then, this was written in the '70s.

Covered by whom?
Uh, Queensrÿche. o.O
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The one time I saw JCS on stage, Judas was a white guy. I believe his part was sung by a white guy on the original album too. Also, I'm pretty sure the movie has people selling telephones and microwaves in the bazaar, so accuracy isn't really a high priority.

Anyway, Heaven on their Minds was my #1. It's so good and perfectly sums up the themes of the story. I slightly prefer the album version, but the movie one is really good too.

One thing I noticed when making my list: I had several opening numbers ranked pretty high. I wonder if that will be a general trend? We've got two on the main list so far.

EDIT: Just watched that video again, even though I've seen it a million times. The pain in Judas' voice is what gets me every time. He loves Jesus so much and is so torn about what's going on. It's heartbreaking.

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Here's some good ones!

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However, it was performed on Glee.
Wonder how many times this phrase is going to pop up.
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And Webber enters the fray at #46. Though I'll admit, this was my one Webber choice, so I guess it's my fault with Karzac.

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Oddly, in all the productions I've looked at, Jesus is depicted as the Western ideal of the white man with flowing golden locks and Judas is typically... well, less Caucasian. Not entirely accurate for Iron-Age Palestine, but then, this was written in the '70s.
Contextually speaking, remember that having a black person act in a lead role opposite a white Jesus was actually considered progressive. The film version of JCSS got a substantial amount of flak for this casting decision in the time it was filmed. Not so great today, but so goes progress.

Thus begins my presumed trend of DOMINATING the 40s and 30s.
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I'm glad Hot Patootie got on. There are more iconic Rocky Horror songs, but Hot Patootie is really good, and Meatloaf was the first person who could actually perform it in its intended vocal range.
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I'm willing to be argued off this point, but I'm not certain it's a negative that a black man is playing Judas. I've always interpreted Judas as the hero of the show, not the villain.
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