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Old 07-07-2017, 04:58 AM
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I get the feeling she doesn't think this recent turn of events is cool beans
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Old 07-07-2017, 06:35 AM
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OH NO

OH, NO
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Old 07-07-2017, 06:52 AM
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Man Kat put on a lab coat and everything.
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Old 07-07-2017, 07:13 AM
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The really disturbing thing for me is that she changed her hair.
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Old 07-07-2017, 08:03 AM
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The really disturbing thing for me is that she changed her hair.
Good point. Some serious thought went into this meetup.
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Old 07-10-2017, 03:46 AM
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The timing is unfortunate, but I gotta say I dig Kat's new hair.
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Old 07-10-2017, 05:01 AM
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The only possible solution now is for Kat to Change her haircut again in Solidarity with Annie.

So they should both go full skinhead.
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Old 07-10-2017, 05:02 AM
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YOUNG SKINHEAD, THEY CALL YOU HOOLIGAN
JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T MAKE SENSE TO THEM
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:08 AM
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It's official. The haircut is an outward indicator of mind control
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Old 07-12-2017, 09:17 AM
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"Sooooooo your dad might be an awful parent... but he's an AMAAAAAAZING coworker! XD"
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Old 07-12-2017, 09:39 AM
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Annie doesn't know how to handle simultaneously loving and hating World's Greatest Dad Anthony Carver, so she projects the hate part onto Kat, who, conveniently, does think he's a jerk. But this requires that Kat does actually think he's a jerk. As soon as she doesn't think he's enough of a jerk for it to be a satisfactory simulacrum of hate, it all starts falling apart. If it isn't Kat who hates him, it must be her, and she is trying extremely hard not to hate him.

Naturally, she needs an alternative explanation. She immediately jumps to thinking that he did something to Kat, which makes sense, because he certainly did something to Annie. She also projects her distress at having had something done to her.

Girl's messed up and the only person who can help her is too paralyzed with guilt to even try.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:00 AM
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"Maybe your dad'd be a better father if he didn't have such an awful daughter, Annie"
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Old 07-12-2017, 12:59 PM
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Annie doesn't know how to handle simultaneously loving and hating World's Greatest Dad Anthony Carver, so she projects the hate part onto Kat, who, conveniently, does think he's a jerk. But this requires that Kat does actually think he's a jerk. As soon as she doesn't think he's enough of a jerk for it to be a satisfactory simulacrum of hate, it all starts falling apart. If it isn't Kat who hates him, it must be her, and she is trying extremely hard not to hate him.

Naturally, she needs an alternative explanation. She immediately jumps to thinking that he did something to Kat, which makes sense, because he certainly did something to Annie. She also projects her distress at having had something done to her.

Girl's messed up and the only person who can help her is too paralyzed with guilt to even try.
Again the theme of separation. Good read.
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:53 AM
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Hey!

Im starting to suspect that Annie "Cool Beans" Carver may not have a very healthy relationship with her father.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:33 AM
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Whoa, uh, ok.

She's clearly been stewing on this for awhile.
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:10 AM
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Annie is very good at coping with some things, and very bad at coping with others.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:26 AM
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It IS kind of weird for Kat to be like, "I guess you haven't been OVERTLY abusive to my best friend in a while, so we're cool now."
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:34 AM
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Kat does WAY more of the heavy lifting in the relationship than Annie.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:41 AM
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The character who is nearly an orphan has more needs and less help than the one who has an intact loving family. Their friendship is unfair to Kat, but only because life has been unfair to Annie.
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:32 AM
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Acknowleged, but at some point Annie is going to have to realize that the sheer amount of raw work Kat puts in to keep their relationship stable and healthy is not something she can simply take for granted.

I'm not saying Kat resents the lopsidedness of their relationship. She's Annie's friend because she likes Annie, and she acts as Annie's support structure because she wants Annie to be supported. No friendship, no matter how cherished by the people in it, is ever going to be a perfect 50/50and Kat obviously recognizes that Annie has greater needs than she does.

But while Kat just pulled a bunch of all-nighters working on an ANNIE PROJECT, I get the impression Annie doesn't really even bother to know what the current KAT PROJECTS even are. It's one thing to not be in a place where you're able to contribute as much as your friend does, and another thing entirely to completely disregard your friend's goals and aspirations immediately after they spent months and months helping you achieve your own.
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:56 PM
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Thus the tragedy.
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:14 PM
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Thus the tragedy.
Precisely. This is where Kat's dad was wrong, I think. Annie is very much her parents' daughter: She has her father's clueless self-centeredness, and her mother's manipulative skills. She doesn't even realize she's treating people like chess pieces for her own ends - as Red pointed out.

Annie's not evil, but she's callous.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:47 PM
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It's also very easy to forget that these kids are like 12, and this kind of introspective analysis of what it means to be a good friend is the kind of things most adults don't even do/are capable of.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:49 PM
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It's also very easy to forget that these kids are like 12, and this kind of introspective analysis of what it means to be a good friend is the kind of things most adults don't even do/are capable of.
I think at this point they're 14/15, not 12.
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:11 AM
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They're probably at least 16 if Jack's stupid goattee is any indicator.
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:12 PM
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It's also very easy to forget that these kids are like 12, and this kind of introspective analysis of what it means to be a good friend is the kind of things most adults don't even do/are capable of.
For definitely, and Tea san has an iron discipline when it comes to having these kids act and think like kids. (Though I agree they scan as older teens now)
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:39 PM
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Consider also that even though Annie is being consistent by her own perspective (and by the audience's omniscient perspective), by Kat's perspective, the rules for Friendship With Annie are constantly changing, and you never know what's going to set her off.

"Last week Annie was upset when I almost messed up and said that I hated her dad, so this week I gave him a chance and I guess that wasn't good enough and now she's here tattling on me to my mom for... something... and I honestly don't know why I let her drag me here in the first place but now she's having a mental breakdown again fml."

OH MY GOD IS THIS HOW KAT FINALLY LEARNS ABOUT HOW ANNIE GOT SO FUCKED UP ABOUT (ACCIDENTALLY) KILLING HER MOTHER
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Old 07-19-2017, 06:42 AM
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Everybody hating Annie's dad is normal.
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Old 07-19-2017, 07:01 PM
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This may be a controversial hot take, but the dude is kind of a dink.
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Old 07-21-2017, 07:59 PM
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Kat's dad is a highly functioning Sociopath.
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