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Old 05-20-2016, 07:34 PM
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Never got into it even though I like industrial

Are the Cure, Sioxie and the Banshees, and Joy Division considered Goth?

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Old 05-20-2016, 08:02 PM
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Are Goth and Darkwave different?
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Old 05-20-2016, 08:21 PM
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Are the Cure, Sioxie and the Banshees, and Joy Division considered Goth?
They definitely were when I was in my teenage goth phase. Bauhaus was another good one that toed the line. Switchblade Symphony was the gothiest shit ever and I have no idea how embarrassing it would be to go back to.

The Birthday Massacre is and forever will be unironically, honest-to-gosh good.
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Old 05-20-2016, 08:45 PM
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Early Nick Cave -- Kick Against the Pricks through Henry's Dream -- was and is extremely my jam

Is Echo & the Bunnymen goth?
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:53 PM
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:23 PM
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Goth isn't really a music genre in itself but there are bands from several genres that are associated with goth culture which have already been named. Joy Division is now commonly associated with "goth culture" but predated it, and was really a huge influence on later bands like Siouxsie, Bauhaus and Christian Death, who were more self-conscious about the goth thing and dressed the part.

I really like the Christian Death stuff with Rikk Agnew on guitar. I've always hated Bauhaus, their only song I like is their Brian Eno cover but it's still not as good as the original.

Anyone heard The Chameleons? Mid-80s kinda dark reverby guitars-oriented rock in that weird temporal interzone between postpunk and the first wave or two of "indie rock." Their original run of records is great and still pretty underknown.
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Old 05-21-2016, 12:25 AM
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I listen to the music but don't dress the part. I did that during my college days (Black hair, black trenchcoat).
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:27 AM
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The first album from the band Dommin is fairly goth inspired. As is recent Gary Neuman, going for a bit of gothy electro.

And I'll heartily add my praise to Birthday Party Massacre. They're just a good band all around.
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Old 05-23-2016, 08:11 AM
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Rasputina is still Goth, right? Or are they retroactively Steampunk now?
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Are the Cruxshadows still considered goth? I've seen them so many times at this point thanks to their residency at DragonCon and some other one-off shows. Same with Bella Morte. I once saw B.M. at a mean little show on the last night for a small goth club in Nashville. Someone in the crowd flicked a lit cigarette at the bassist and the rest of the band had to physically restrain him from jumping off stage and kicking the guy's ass.
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Bumping to say I love me some post-punk. Some of which is goth music...mainly The Cure's early stuff, but I'm always interested in current day artist with more subtle goth/post-punk influences, and it seems like there's quite a bit of them.
I think Aves counts?

been playing the hell out of this track recently. love it.
I also started listening to Soft Kill

I'm gonna see them next month(along with Black Marble, another band I see get thrown around with the label "goth influenced"), when I go check out PRGE.
The Soft Moon's another another one.

I had the chance to see them earlier this year and I regret not taking it
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Since this is now the "is ____ goth??" thread, I've been listening to Halsey and keep thinking "this is sort of like if Ladytron just went full darkwave" but I can't really commit to that judgement? For every song on Badlands that cements the idea...



...there's another one that upsets it by being no more goth than, say, Lorde.




Wikipedia is giving me "alternative pop," which is a bullshit genre. Wikipedia can't commit either apparently.
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Never got into it even though I like industrial

Are the Cure, Sioxie and the Banshees, and Joy Division considered Goth?

This song is awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y54UR0qNdk
All of those bands are on a box set I once listened to by the name of A Life Less Lived: The Gothic Box so that's an affirmative in my book. Also the cover of the box set was a mock corset, which was very much in keeping with the theme.

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Anyhow, as long as we're posting music links I might as well post the song whose bleak gravitational pull brought me into this genre and whose bleakness I still find both despairing and cathartic to this day. (Also, the cover for Unknown Pleasures depicting a signal of a pulsar star is one of my favorite pieces of album art despite having become something of a cliche in certain circles.)

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Old 09-05-2016, 11:43 PM
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Yeah, post-punk is awesome! Can i consider any sad post-punk a goth music? I just want an excuse to post this song.



(in my teenage goth phase i mostly listened to Opeth.)
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Old 09-06-2016, 01:56 PM
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Television is pretty gosh darn great. Marquee Moon (both the album as a whole but especially the song with that name) is fantastic.
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http://nowthisisgothic.tumblr.com this was a pretty cool blog. Mostly fashion but some band photos and text post about the music too. They stopped updating.


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I read recently Robert Smith doesn't like The Cure being labeled as "goth" despite the fact they're goth as fuck and are grouped in "goth" in record shops. I've really gotten into them recently and they are a very slow burning band who seem to creep up in your subconscious until you need to listen to them more and more. Lovely stuff.
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Old 12-19-2016, 06:29 AM
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It's the true, and final sign of a goth to disassociate yourself with being a goth.
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Old 12-29-2016, 12:36 PM
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Early Nick Cave -- Kick Against the Pricks through Henry's Dream -- was and is extremely my jam
And The Birthday Party of course.



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Old 12-29-2016, 02:22 PM
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I enjoy Nick Cave a lot, but i enjoy it kinda ironically? I'm never moved by his songs. Maybe that's what's intended? I don't know.

My first contact with his music was while watching Wings Of Desire. Great scene with him in that movie.
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I read recently Robert Smith doesn't like The Cure being labeled as "goth" despite the fact they're goth as fuck and are grouped in "goth" in record shops. I've really gotten into them recently and they are a very slow burning band who seem to creep up in your subconscious until you need to listen to them more and more. Lovely stuff.
The Cure are my "I love all their albums, even the weird ones no one likes" band. I will talk your ear off about Wild Mood Swings and The Top. Which ones have you started off with and which style do you find yourself enjoying more, sad Cure or happy Cure?
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I adore happy Cure (Friday I'm In Love, Boys Don't Cry, fucking Lovecats is amazing), because they're also in many ways sad and melancholy so I appreciate the tone of those records. My first album purchase has been Disintegration which I love lots, but so far I've whacked all their albums onto a Spotify playlist and play them at random. I asked my supervisor at uni what to listen to, as he's a big Cure fan (and former goth). He suggested Pornography, and after listening to that months ago I can only assume he was a sad, sad Goth. I'll keep digesting them until I've become familiar with all the albums I guess.
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I once listened to most of The Cure's discography but now all I throw on is Disintegration. Also I agree with MooMoo that Lovecats is amazing.
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I would be lying if I didn't say 95% of my Cure knowledge is from Achewood.
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Old 01-06-2017, 10:31 AM
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I would be lying if I didn't say 95% of my Cure knowledge is from Achewood.
Being an Achewood reader I can confirm all the references are 100% accurate.
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Recently picked up The Cure's greatest hits. Haven't listened to it yet.
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Does it have "Killing An Arab" on it? It's nowhere to be found on Spotify, at least not by The Cure. (Lots of covers of it.) Raises some eyebrows now because of where we are culturally but it's still a great, early Cure tune.

It's not as good as "Boys Don't Cry" though because what is?
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He suggested Pornography, and after listening to that months ago I can only assume he was a sad, sad Goth. I'll keep digesting them until I've become familiar with all the albums I guess.
Pornography isn't sad as much as it's a darkly maniacal, nearly apocalyptic, fiery, tumultuous record. It's very intense and rare that I'm in the mood for it, though I do love it and all The Cure's work. Disintegration on the other hand is sad. Very sad.

My personal favorite Cure album is Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss me because it's a pretty ecclectic mixture of all of their different styles. You have the sad, Disintegration-style stuff, the dark intensity of Pornography, the quirky upbeatness of Head on the Door, the strangeness of The Top and the pop-oriented stuff like Wish. And it's got a ton of keyboard-laden atmospherics. It only lacks the punk of their early work, which is fine with me since I'm not as big a fan of that era. I've always felt it was the perfect Cure record.
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Does it have "Killing An Arab" on it? It's nowhere to be found on Spotify, at least not by The Cure. (Lots of covers of it.) Raises some eyebrows now because of where we are culturally but it's still a great, early Cure tune.

It's not as good as "Boys Don't Cry" though because what is?
Nope, it's not on there.
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