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Old 01-10-2017, 07:49 PM
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good use of budget

niflheim and such will probably end up as the party member dlc stuff
Episode Prompto certainly, for obvious reasons.
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:00 PM
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Is the rest of game's story this...chaotic?
"I have to save the crystal, but I'm not strong enough!"

That's the story. The rest of the plot is pretty wonky, but the core arc is quite simple.
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:34 PM
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Apropos of people talking weird about this game, I finally figured out why I love it so much.

It's a Japanese ass Japanese game that's also a numbered main line Final Fantasy game with the budget that accompanies a numbered main line FF game but with the aesthetic of a Japanese ass Japanese game.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:04 AM
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Okay, it's only the first third or so of Chapter 13 which is intolerable. Once you get your father's sword it turns back into Final Fantasy XV, rather than whatever the heck it was before that. If the patch fixes what they want to fix I'll be fine with that part of the game. It'll still be too long, too boring, and look like an Unreal asset flip, but it will at least be tolerable. And the pay-off is quite nice.

Now I'm at the bit before the final boss. Please tell me Hot Stubble Noctus is an alternate costume.

Also, calling it now, the multiplayer DLC will be a Monster Hunter-like set in the World of Ruin.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:10 PM
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Today I set my gear for Magic bonuses along with some Ascension mods to increase my energy gains and Magic, and I got it to about 550. It's pretty awesome. I wiped out a few encounters with 9999 damage to all enemies. I also got the Engine Blade III which kicks ass. I think I could do this for the rest of the game.

Oh, and it only takes one potion to make a spell that won't hurt your own party members. I usually make those for melee use, and keep big stacks of high damage or status spells for ranged use.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:22 PM
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Episode Prompto certainly, for obvious reasons.
UUDD i haven't actually gotta my car back from the empire in chapter 4, i don't even know what a niflheim is
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:52 PM
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Oh, and it only takes one potion to make a spell that won't hurt your own party members. I usually make those for melee use, and keep big stacks of high damage or status spells for ranged use.
I thought healcast only worked on behalf of the caster? I'll have to pay more attention the next time we use a spell
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:54 PM
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Is there a Safecast?
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:41 PM
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Is there a Safecast?
Yes - it causes the whole party to sidestep the spell's damage radius at the last second, exhale, and wipe sweat off their brows, right before they're all crushed by a giant safe falling from the sky
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:32 PM
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I thought healcast only worked on behalf of the caster? I'll have to pay more attention the next time we use a spell
I'm played a bit more, and healcast does work for the whole party, as it says it should. It's a little weird because the remaining elemental field will still cause red damage numbers to appear, but their HP meters weren't moving.

I just got the Staff of the Pious, and now my Magic stat is at 710. Uwee hee hee. I'm a little sad that the Orange Cake I had Ignis make totally defanged the guardian beforehand, but at least it was a good use for rare ingredients.

Iris is awesome, I wish she could be a full party member.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:28 PM
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UUDD i haven't actually gotta my car back from the empire in chapter 4, i don't even know what a niflheim is
That's just the name of the Empire. Pretty sure it gets said a decent number of times. Spoilers for generic every-story: you take the fight to the enemy eventually.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:41 AM
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In my day we called that the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:20 AM
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That's interesting about Healcast negating all the splash damage. Definitely tempting. Except for special cases, I've almost always been going for double/triple/quad-cast mixes, but I haven't really paid close enough attention to see if those actually multiply the spell damage as much as the names imply or if there's diminishing returns on the extra triggers.
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Old 01-12-2017, 10:27 AM
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I do have a couple 15x stacks of full power quadcast magic in reserve, but I just use 100 power 3x healcast vials for most random encounters.

I'm sure the multicast spells increase the damage quite a bit, though it says the extra casts "may" happen, so It must not be 100%. I think they all get rolled into one damage value though, which still maxes out at 9999. That's all I've ever seen yet anyway.
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Old 01-12-2017, 10:52 AM
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We're Hunter Rank 8, three stars shy of Rank 9. There are no sub-9 hunts left anywhere, except...you know, Adamantoise. Do more hunts become available post-game, or do we have to bite that bullet to get to 9?
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Old 01-12-2017, 11:19 AM
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I *think* a few do in Lestallum, at the dude not tucked into the market.
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Old 01-12-2017, 11:21 AM
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Maximum rank is 10. More hunts will open up after you reach rank 9. They are definitely at Hunter HQ and possibly Old Lestallum.
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Old 01-12-2017, 11:43 AM
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In my day we called that the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia
It took me a solid minute for my brain to click to understand that reference. And when it did, I was overcome with an immense wave of sadness. RIP Konami, RIP Suikoden... :*(
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:22 PM
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Finished. Good game. Despite the battle system never clicking, and the dreadful Chapter 13, I quite enjoyed my time with Noctis and his buds. I also like that the story is basically J-Pop Jesus versus a Sin-eater.
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Old 01-13-2017, 08:47 AM
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I have some lore questions regarding the ending.

Is Noctis the last of the Lucis Caelum line? Ardyn doesn't seem to care whether he wins or loses, since both possibilities end with Noctis dead, and Adryn's revenge fulfilled. The villain of this game succeeds, in the end.

Was the crystal destroyed along with Noctis? I was unclear on that.

Does the cause of the daemon blight die with Ardyn? I couldn't tell if he himself was the cause, having absorbed the darkness, or if he was just using magitek as an agitator. Is another blight possible? And if the Lucis Caelums and crystals are all gone, is the world screwed?
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:11 AM
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I can't guarantee that these are ironclad but:

1.) Is Noctis the last of the Lucis Caelum line? Ardyn doesn't seem to care whether he wins or loses, since both possibilities end with Noctis dead, and Adryn's revenge fulfilled. The villain of this game succeeds, in the end.

Noctis is the last of the Lucis line.

2.) Was the crystal destroyed along with Noctis? I was unclear on that.

I don't know if it was physically destroyed but its purpose has been fulfilled. The Lucis line and the ring aren't around to use its powers.

3.) Does the cause of the daemon blight die with Ardyn? I couldn't tell if he himself was the cause, having absorbed the darkness, or if he was just using magitek as an agitator. Is another blight possible? And if the Lucis Caelums and crystals are all gone, is the world screwed?

It appears that the cause of the daemon blight has been destroyed. The constant darkness of the world was due to the amount of daemon pathogens in the atmosphere absorbing light. The ending shows the dawn, so this would indicate that the pathogens in the atmosphere were destroyed. Now was every single daemon and pathogen removed? Probably but if they made a sequel where it came back I wouldn't be surprised. The crystal is gone but the gods still exist, so the world is not completely screwed.
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:31 AM
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all those make sense to me.

the game's lore gets real bleak real quick when you start thinking about Lucis and its purpose:

the sole purpose of Lucis is to keep the royal line alive and the Crystal and Ring of the Lucii available until the True King. Lucis was kind of a shitty place to live for most people, and kind of fascist, but the Six didn't give a shit, because Lucis only existed to be a vessel for the eventual purging the world of daemons.
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:33 AM
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Based on the progress I'm making so far, I'm never leaving chapter 3, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I'm driving all over the world running everybody's errands and having a grand time just enjoying the scenery.
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:45 AM
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Old 01-13-2017, 03:39 PM
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I have some lore questions regarding the ending.

Is Noctis the last of the Lucis Caelum line? Ardyn doesn't seem to care whether he wins or loses, since both possibilities end with Noctis dead, and Adryn's revenge fulfilled. The villain of this game succeeds, in the end.
Noctis is the last of his line besides Ardyn as far as we know, and I believe he is. If Noctis stays dead then Ardyn does indeed win, which might loop back around onto how one interprets the ending. However, the ending is (deliberately) ambiguous as to whether Noctis remains "really most sincerely dead," to begin with.


This spoilerpop thing is neat.
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Old 01-13-2017, 08:13 PM
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When you camp out with an active chocobo rental, the chocobos curl up by the fire with you. Game of the year.
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Old 01-13-2017, 08:16 PM
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re: ending chat:
y'all saw what happened with ff13, don't ask questions or they'll try to answer them
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Ugh, first glitch encountered. An imp managed to clip through the world so the encounter node on top of a wall squeeze prompt wouldn't let itself be cleared so I could actually squeeze through. Open world jank? In my Final Fantasy?!
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:05 PM
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Figure, hey, whatever let's play this.

Pop the disc, PSN helpfully notifies me that it's downloading the 1.03 update. I look at it, see it's 11 gigs, sigh, and go do something else for the 45 minutes it took to dl it. Boot into the game itself, and I see that it has another half an hour of install time helpfully noted by the ticker in the corner of the main menu. Sigh again.
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Old 01-14-2017, 02:11 AM
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Figure, hey, whatever let's play this.

Pop the disc, PSN helpfully notifies me that it's downloading the 1.03 update. I look at it, see it's 11 gigs, sigh, and go do something else for the 45 minutes it took to dl it. Boot into the game itself, and I see that it has another half an hour of install time helpfully noted by the ticker in the corner of the main menu. Sigh again.
Modern gaming is a drag. Just be glad though you're not playing on an XBOne that would have required a full-install first.

I really dislike that day-one patch. Most of that giant patch is just shoving Kingsglaive footage into the game in places it doesn't belong.
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