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Old 05-16-2017, 03:05 PM
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Well then.

So it seems to me that we've got a Murder Plot, Girl Student is Key Person, and Shrine Maiden is Killer? There are probably other possibilities I can't figure out, but this one would make this...

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I will give ♥ to the Shrine Maiden. I'm pulling for her + Girl Student OTP (They are both Girls and Students!)
...kind of ironic.

Or maybe that's the only possibility for one of the plots, but we have no idea about the other.

Sol, Red Hedge, what do you guys think?
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:09 PM
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clearly shrine maiden saw the love triangle developing between her and boy student over girl student, and decided to kill girl student so that boy student couldn't have her
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:10 PM
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Or maybe there's Shadow of the Ripper and Murder Plan, and Shrine Maiden is the Serial Killer. In which case Mogri's 2 Intrigue was just a ploy.
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:19 PM
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I am of the opinion that our Shrine Maiden is a Serial Killer.

Unless anyone objects, I play Don't move on

Let's try to move the Girl Student away from her and see what happens. Shrine Maiden doesn't like the city.
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:34 PM
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by the way, just so i have this right

as long as no loss condition is tripped, when the loop ends, the players win?
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:40 PM
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by the way, just so i have this right

as long as no loss condition is tripped, when the loop ends, the players win?
Yes. For the mastermind to win, the protagonists have to fail every loop. The protagonists merely have to avoid failing one time.
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:44 PM
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I should add that in the full game, the protagonists have another out: if they fail the last loop, they get one last guess. They have to name the plot, both subplots, and every character's role correctly.

That's not easy to do, but then it's not always easy to keep the mastermind from succeeding even once you've identified all of the script. The reason you don't get a final guess in First Steps games is that the possibility space is much smaller -- it would be hard for the protagonists to lose.
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I am of the opinion that our Shrine Maiden is a Serial Killer.

Unless anyone objects, I play Don't move on

Let's try to move the Girl Student away from her and see what happens. Shrine Maiden doesn't like the city.
Sounds good to me. She's either a Serial Killer or just a Killer, IMO.

Do we have to wait for Mogri to do something, or is it implied that he's doing the same first actions again?
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Sounds good to me. She's either a Serial Killer or just a Killer, IMO.

Do we have to wait for Mogri to do something, or is it implied that he's doing the same first actions again?
He already declared his targets: Girl Student, Shrine Maiden, and Office Worker. You don't see what the actions are until the players have declared theirs.

By the way, if you guys suspect Shrine Maiden of being a serial killer, it may be a good idea to try to get someone else to move to the Shrine, in case he tried to hit Girl Student with a Move ⤧ in anticipation of a Move ↔.
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I announced different targets. Well, one was different, anyway.

edit: turtled
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I announced different targets. Well, one was different, anyway.

edit: turtled
Oh, whoops. For some reason I thought you just reposted the initial post, as like a debrief or something.

How about if I throw a Move Horizontal on Bookish Glasses Guy? That way Mogri can't get GIRL and SHRINE GIRL alone. And since he can't intrigue and move GIRL at the same time, and he can't move SHRINE GIRL at all, we should be safe from losing the same exact way.

I think.
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Old 05-16-2017, 05:36 PM
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We could try that, while Redge maybe tries moving Girl Student into the city?

Shrine Maiden can't move into the city so once she's there we can try to forbid her movement and see what other fail states Mogri can try to throw at us.
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Old 05-16-2017, 05:47 PM
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We could try that, while Redge maybe tries moving Girl Student into the city?

Shrine Maiden can't move into the city so once she's there we can try to forbid her movement and see what other fail states Mogri can try to throw at us.
We could, though the danger is that if Mogri plays the weird move card on Girl Student, she moves to the Shrine instead.
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Old 05-16-2017, 06:15 PM
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I have no idea what is going on, but I'm enjoying watching.
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Old 05-16-2017, 06:29 PM
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If Mogri is playing 'intrigue' on Girl Student, he didn't order her to move. We don't know if Shrine Maiden needs Intirgue to land a kill or just kills anyone in the same room as her.
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He may or may not be playing Intrigue on her though. His actions this loop could be completely different than the ones from last loop.

That said, moving Haruhi Girl Student is still a safe bet, because if Mogri plays Move Diagonal and ends up shifting her to the Shrine, she won't have any Intrigue, so if Yukiko Shrine Maiden is a Killer, she won't kill Girl Student. It would unfortunately make it harder to tell whether Shrine Maiden is a Killer or a Serial Killer, though.
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Old 05-16-2017, 06:45 PM
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He moved boy student away last time, so Mogri is trying to keep us in the dark about whether our Miko is a Serial killer or not. Since we don't know what he's doing with office man it will be hard to test.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:04 PM
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An announcement about signups

Hey, just so we're all on the same page: Redge, Sol, and Gerad are playing this game, and muteKi, turtle, and JBear are on deck. Any future signups get in line behind them.

Of course, like I said before, you don't have to be a protagonist to participate in the strategizing; all the protagonists get that you don't is final say in what gets played.

And speaking of that, I believe Sol is playing Forbid Movement on our Shrine Maiden, and Gerad was still waffling last I heard.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:18 PM
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Also of note, given the roles we've seen there's likely a third party hidden among these other people. We need to be mindful of any suspicious moves they make.
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:17 PM
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I think that since our goal is to be sure we don't lose like last time, playing Forbid Intrigue on Girl Student furthers that aim. We can then see what Mogri's strategy with Girl Student is.
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:41 PM
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I'm going to move bookish glasses guy horizontal. I don't think that can lose us the game right away, and it seems like the other move can, unlikely as it may be. I agree with redge, we need to get information.

I'm on board with Sol's strategy after that.
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:55 AM
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The best game of Tragedy Looper I ever played had us systematically killing everyone else in order to keep our Key Person alive. Because we're heroes.
Mine too.

Though for the optimum Tragedy Looper experience, have someone else not familiar with the rules in the room to confuse with your discussion around whether someone is the Killer or the Serial Killer.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:15 AM
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Which one is "bookish glasses guy"? I imagine you mean Dr. Stiles, but it could be Officer Brown or Salaryman Kintaro.

got some Guess Who? action up in this game
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Mogri targeted office man with something, so targeting one of the others would be a more sure thing.
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:46 AM
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I meant Dr. Stiles! He has books in the background! Not scared glasses guy!
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I wanted to sign up for a game of this, but I can't see Mogri's images when I'm at work. But then I remembered that I have a phone, so I totally can play! So please sign me up for the next round that has a free spot.
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I wanted to sign up for a game of this, but I can't see Mogri's images when I'm at work. But then I remembered that I have a phone, so I totally can play! So please sign me up for the next round that has a free spot.
I'm also down if we can get an imgur round.
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:02 AM
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I meant Dr. Stiles! He has books in the background! Not scared glasses guy!
Nah, that's a building.

Loop 2, Day 1 actions

Intrigue +2 Forbid Intrigue
No effect.
Move ↔
Boy Student moves to City.
Move ↔ Forbid Movement
No effect.
Paranoia +1
Office Worker gains .
Move ↔
Doctor moves to Shrine.



Mastermind abilities

Nothing happens.

Protagonist actions

No one has goodwill.

Incidents

No incident is scheduled for day 1.

End of day

The Doctor dies.

Loop 2, Day 2



☹ 0/3 ♥ 0 ☹ 0/2 ♥ 0 ☹ 0/3 ♥ 0 ☹ 1/2 ♥ 0 ☹ 0/2 ♥ 0


Mastermind actions

I play three cards, targeting , , and .


Protagonist actions

Hey, you survived a day! Do your thing.
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:22 AM
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Alright, looks like we're dealing with Shadow of the Ripper.

The Shrine Maiden is confirmed for Serial Killer.


Shrine Maiden can't enter the city so it's ideal for keeping the girl safe, but there's a lot of other characters there right now.

It looks like maybe Mogri wanted the doctor to die this time? I am not sure what his game was in trying to move the Maiden to the hospital.
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:23 AM
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Shrine Girl is serial killer confirmed! Woo woo!

...right?
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