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Old 04-23-2017, 12:20 PM
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He also interrupted a date with Ashley Judd to look at a video game under a microscope hoping to figure out why everybody thought it was so fun. So that one cancelled itself out.

I liked Lovable Doofus Wesley, and despaired at TEEN ANGST Wesley.
But, more than anything else, I loved Wesleys Christmas Sweaters.
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Old 04-23-2017, 12:46 PM
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Like Callow Lothario Kirk, Deus Ex Machina Wesley is one of those things that seems to have been amplified considerably in the collective memory.
You're probably right. But I think that might also be a side effect of the fact that Wesley's presence has been overstated in general. In the same way everyone not Spock, Kirk, and Bones are overstated in the memory of TOS viewers, because in reality they're very nominal crew members and don't receive very much attention or focus. It's actually kinda shocking to go back and watch TOS and realize how much characters like Chekov or Sulu were basically nonexistent, considering how important they become in the movies later or how fondly people remember them.
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:20 PM
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Yeah. Really makes ya feel for Nurse Ogawa — by far the most regular minor "guest star" role in TOS/TNG that was never allowed to ascend to Significant Character status.
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:21 PM
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Yeah. Really makes ya feel for Nurse Ogawa — by far the most regular minor "guest star" role in TOS/TNG that was never allowed to ascend to Significant Character status.
your mister mot erasure is unpardonable
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:57 PM
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Like Callow Lothario Kirk, Deus Ex Machina Wesley is one of those things that seems to have been amplified considerably in the collective memory.
I think he becomes a time lord at some point.
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Old 04-24-2017, 05:06 AM
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your mister mot erasure is unpardonable
I'm on season six now and have seen him maybe twice? Ogawa has been in pretty much episode for the past two seasons. She deserved better.
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:36 AM
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Hey, Ogawa managed to get into Generations and First Contact. Even O'Brien can't say the same.
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:27 AM
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Chief O'Brien was too busy keeping DS9 together on duct tape and prayer
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Old 04-24-2017, 10:44 AM
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Hey, Ogawa managed to get into Generations and First Contact. Even O'Brien can't say the same.
Aww. Been a while since I've seen those, now you've spoiled the surprise for my rewatch.

Speaking of forgotten tertiary cast members, I just saw Ensign Rager for the first time in like three seasons.
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:59 PM
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Chief O'Brien was too busy keeping DS9 together on duct tape and prayer
And dealing with his nagging shoulder problem.
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Old 04-26-2017, 01:16 PM
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I got to watch Trials and Tribble-ations today. Boy that was something. I never actually sat down and saw the entirety of The Trouble With Tribbles, I only ever saw it as background noise while doing something else, but this episode was clearly a lot of fun for everyone involved. And it also somehow escaped being too tacky or too self-aggrandizing (as a call back/time travel episode referencing TOS, I mean). I dare say DS9 really is as good as its reputation suggests!
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Old 04-26-2017, 01:36 PM
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I got to watch Trials and Tribble-ations today. Boy that was something. I never actually sat down and saw the entirety of The Trouble With Tribbles, I only ever saw it as background noise while doing something else, but this episode was clearly a lot of fun for everyone involved. And it also somehow escaped being too tacky or too self-aggrandizing (as a call back/time travel episode referencing TOS, I mean). I dare say DS9 really is as good as its reputation suggests!
I really wish they left the Klingon joke as that, though.

Great ep and the verve of this ep vs the similar VOyager one where Tuvok serves under Sulu on the Excelsior... I
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Old 04-26-2017, 01:57 PM
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Well, I just got to the TNG episode where a transporter episode turns Picard and pals into kids and I guess there's no getting around the fact that the end of season 5 is also the end of the series' immaculate run. Three years of near-constant excellence is nothing to sneeze at, though.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:01 PM
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:25 PM
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The actor for Young Picard does not get enough credit. NAILED IT.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:46 PM
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Fun fact: That's the same kid who played Picard's nephew in "Family." Later, he burns to death!
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Old 04-26-2017, 03:21 PM
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Oh, definitely. L'il Picard was great. The highlight of the episode, especially his scene with Riker. He even got the body language right. The rest… eh.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:50 PM
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I might suggest A Fistfull of Datas, Power Play, Space Die Hard (can't recall the actual title), The Royale and Devils Due (Which I might also have wrong).

These are also a solid group of episodes to watch if you're trying to determine if somebody is Literally Octo.
All these lists in this thread of people's favorite Star Trek episodes: Y'all better vote for top 50 Star Trek episodes next time the top 50 list voting comes up.
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Old 04-26-2017, 05:31 PM
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Space Die Hard is Starship Mine, FYI.
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:38 PM
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TNG Freaky Friday Edition might have been stupid and silly, but I love that episode. I was roughly the age of the child actors when it aired, and watching kids command the Enterprise and save the day was inspirational to kid-me.
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:20 PM
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Yeah, likewise I remember that one working pretty well for me given I was, I dunno, 11 or 12 or so. Although for kid appeal it's not nearly as good as the Picard subplot in "Disaster."
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:04 AM
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I think the kids in Disaster were really cute, but it wasn't empowering in the same way to kid-me. That episode was more "Picard would be the BEST dad!" kind of sentiment.
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:05 AM
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I so wanted to know all the words to "The Happy Vulcan and His Dog" though.
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Old 04-27-2017, 11:15 AM
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Yeah, "Disaster" was great. This latest one, not so much.

But I did enjoy "Fistful of Datas" today. It was fun throughout, but when it ended with the Enterprise riding off into the sunset, that kicked it over the top.
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Old 04-27-2017, 11:17 AM
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I remember the scene with the child Ro and Guinan not being very good. But I loved kid Keiko acting like nothing had happened and O'Brien's increasing discomfort. And kid Picard was great.

Meanwhile, Fistful of Datas never did much for me. Not my style of Western.
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Old 04-27-2017, 11:19 AM
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when it ended with the Enterprise riding off into the sunset, that kicked it over the top.
I fondly recall my father and I both cracking up at that shot.
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Old 04-27-2017, 01:59 PM
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Fistful of Datas was the only good Alexander episode. It was also clearly also the yearly bone they threw at Brent Spinner so that he'd stop whining about how boring it was to act as Data. Those episodes tend to have mixed results.
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Old 04-27-2017, 04:00 PM
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Fistful of Datas was the only good Alexander episode. It was also clearly also the yearly bone they threw at Brent Spinner so that he'd stop whining about how boring it was to act as Data. Those episodes tend to have mixed results.
Well, there was also Descent, parts 1 and 2...
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the yearly bone they threw at Brent Spinner so that he'd stop whining about how boring it was to act as Data.
Was this actually a thing behind the scenes? I hadn't heard about this.
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:39 AM
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I'm declaring Clues as the first Bad Episode in Season 4 - breaking a streak a season and a half long. The episode itself is mostly fine, but the final solution hangs on everybody being a moron (and Picard trusting that his crew and himself will act as morons).

Also, how Worf got his hand broken has to be the most awkwardly acted and choreographed "fight" in the series so far.
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