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Old 10-30-2008, 09:20 PM
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Whats the deal with Burzum anyway? Any good?

I am a little apprehensive listening to the tunes of murderer and Quisling apologist though... :P
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Old 10-31-2008, 06:30 AM
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Also, it probably doesn't count, but has anyone heard the new Fucked Up album? It's pretty tops. Probably the best _____core album that starts with a flute solo this year.
Yeah its great, the vocals... kind of make it a worthy touchstone for this thread. The band is not a metal band; I guess if you had to call them anything one might say punk, but raw and hard and done right. And yeah its got interesting divergences like the forementioned flute solo.
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:22 AM
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Whats the deal with Burzum anyway? Any good?

I am a little apprehensive listening to the tunes of murderer and Quisling apologist though... :P
If you like black metal and don't mind poor production quality, then I think Burzum is great music. I would describe the sound as sad, doomy, and brooding. The vocals are sparse and can be a bit disturbing at times.

I too feel a little weird about listening to it now that I know about the guy behind the music. I guess I've been able to rationalize it somehow. (not sure if that's a good thing )

I really only listen to two songs though:

Dunkelheit
Det Som En Gang Var Part 1
Det Som En Gang Var Part 2
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:32 AM
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Old 10-31-2008, 05:29 PM
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Incorrect. He's the most jazz of metal drummers. I find Mastodon to be awesome, but sometimes tiring. I'm anxious awaiting their new album, though, which apparently is done or mostly so, but not coming out until much later.
I'm actually of the opinion that classically trained jazz drummers make both the best metal AND punk drummers (see: DJ Bonebreak) simply because it teaches how to play with speed and precision, both of which are totally crucial for the most awesome of metal.

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I have Blood Mountain, and love it
LEVIATHAN. Dude, I cannot recommend that album enough; it's my second-favorite concept album of all time and has three or four really solid tracks with a bunch of pleasantries mixed in. I'm tempted to compare it to Seventh Son of a Seventh Son in terms of RAW AWESOME to PRETTY ADEQUATE and we all know Seventh Son is rad.

Unless you don't like Iron Maiden, in which case why are you enjoying metal?

Meanwhile I'm going to throw down for the other classics: Voivod and Celtic Frost. Angel Rat is a favorite in the category of "not so hard" metal. And I'm also going to throw down for the completely balls-out insane prog-metal of Aryeon - you have got to appreciate any band which makes a two-hour song about the last man on Mars dying and then forms a side project consisting of nothing but songs about sci-fi movies including a truly excellent one about Star Trek IV. Serously, you need to listen to it.
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Old 10-31-2008, 05:47 PM
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I have Leviathan, and bought on recommendations, but I dont think I like it. Then again I think ive only listened to it about 2 times, but i dont know.. so far it never has clicked.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:29 PM
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Yngwie Malmsteen has always been a guilty pleasure of mine, even though all of his songs sound the same (I discovered this during his live show, which got so boring I walked out halfway through). I just got around to listening to Perpetual Flame, and it seems that Tim Ripper Owens brought an energy to the album that I haven't heard since Trilogy.
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:10 PM
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I like most types of metal, but really enjoy anything with fast solos
...yes even Dragonforce (Heroes of our time is an awesome song).

Lately I've been listening to Children of Bodom.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:27 AM
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I have Leviathan, and bought on recommendations, but I dont think I like it. Then again I think ive only listened to it about 2 times, but i dont know.. so far it never has clicked.
Remission (the one before it) is much better. Try it.

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Whats the deal with Burzum anyway? Any good?

I am a little apprehensive listening to the tunes of murderer and Quisling apologist though... :P
I love Burzum. Yes, Varg bothered me for ab it...but I realized there's no magical rule that says awful people can't make good music, so I got over it. (If it makes you feel any better, pirate it.)

And that kind of segues into:

I've been listening to Pantera a lot lately. Mostly Cowboys From Hell, but some Vulgar Display of Power thrown in occasionally ("Walk" is such a good song it isn't even funny).

Anyway, so I figured we should all discuss when exactly they fell from grace, because I've heard various reasons and many of my friends are split on this issue, so I assumed ya'll would be, too. If nothing else, it'll get us talking again, because I am not a fan of this thread being on any other page but the front one.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:30 AM
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Yngwie Malmsteen has always been a guilty pleasure of mine, even though all of his songs sound the same (I discovered this during his live show, which got so boring I walked out halfway through).
This was the same problem I had with Buckethead- incredible talent, but after over two hours of furious solos everything blended together.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:51 AM
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Bands probably shouldn't play more than 30-45 minutes, anyway. Like, seriously.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:53 AM
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I've been listening to Pantera a lot lately. Mostly Cowboys From Hell, but some Vulgar Display of Power thrown in occasionally ("Walk" is such a good song it isn't even funny).

Anyway, so I figured we should all discuss when exactly they fell from grace, because I've heard various reasons and many of my friends are split on this issue, so I assumed ya'll would be, too. If nothing else, it'll get us talking again, because I am not a fan of this thread being on any other page but the front one.
My interest waned after Far Beyond Driven, because I felt like they were not really going anywhere. Vulgar Display of Power was essentially the perfected version of the sound they appeared to be going for. Far Beyond Driven just seemed like more of the same. Couple that fatigue with reportedly racist comments from Phil (later retracted and apologized for) and an album called The Great Southern Trendkill and I stopped paying attention.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:58 AM
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See, I'm not sure if I agree, exactly. I think Far Beyond Driven was fine enough, but like you said - it was more of the same. I don't know if I can fault them for that or not, since it was stll perfectly fine.

I didn't really listen to much after that either, though, so I guess you might be right.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:05 PM
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Everyone and their mother loves Pantera, but I could never get into them. I liked Cowboys From Hell all right, but I was never sold on their later Groove output. I prefer my metal thrashy, doomy, or crunchy, not "danceable".
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:19 PM
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Yes, I definitely agree. I really only listen to Cowboys From Hell and Vulgar Display of Power.
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:18 AM
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I'll take Down over Pantera any day.
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:27 AM
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FAIL.
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:54 AM
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I'll take Down over Pantera any day.
Madness.
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:57 PM
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So Metacritic is pretty broken. But perhaps some people here like Underoath that much?
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:24 PM
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Until Metacritic decides to take into account every person's opinion and then tally up the total amount of points, I will never trust them.
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:28 PM
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So Metacritic is pretty broken. But perhaps some people here like Underoath that much?
I haven't liked anything I've heard from them.
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:06 AM
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Until Metacritic decides to take into account every person's opinion and then tally up the total amount of points, I will never trust them.
Maybe just more than four.
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Old 11-13-2008, 01:20 PM
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Am I seriously going to be the first person here to mention Atreyu? Because, I mean, damn.

Also, I really like Nightwish and Kamelot, but I keep being afraid to mention them because they apparently don't give you much "metal cred" or whatever.
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Old 11-13-2008, 01:31 PM
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Am I seriously going to be the first person here to mention Atreyu?
My first exposure to them was a live show and they sounded like complete crap. To each his own, though.
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Old 11-13-2008, 01:52 PM
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I was commenting more on the fact that they seem to be relatively popular, and it was kind of surprising to me that a thread about metal hadn't mentioned them in three pages. I like Atreyu, sure, but in moderation.
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:10 PM
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My first exposure to them was a live show and they sounded like complete crap. To each his own, though.
This is my exact experience as well.

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Also, I really like Nightwish and Kamelot, but I keep being afraid to mention them because they apparently don't give you much "metal cred" or whatever.
I haven't heard Kamelot, but yeah, I kind of think Nightwish is garbage. But that's ok! Everyone's opinion is welcome here. Me? I don't care for 'em, but you go right ahead and enjoy that.
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:14 PM
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Whats the deal with Burzum anyway? Any good?
Burzum is shit and Varg Vikernes is a Nazi mystic dumbass.

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Old 11-13-2008, 02:15 PM
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Burzum is shit
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and Varg Vikernes is a Nazi mystic nutcase.
yes
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:27 PM
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:30 PM
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Either it's hereditary or he took a hit to the face when he was LARPing in his younger years. Or maybe he got in that scuffle with one of his band mates.
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