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Old 06-12-2010, 09:33 PM
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Soft Machine - Volumes I & II
You should definitely check out Soft Machine's Third. It's my favorite Soft Machine album and one of the best albums to come out of the Canterbury scene.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:19 PM
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I think I'm just going to print this and take it to the record store tomorrow.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:39 PM
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Please take a photo of the stack you bring home so that I may shed a single tear of pride.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:41 PM
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I bought Hawkwind's "In Search of Space" tonight. Here goes nothin'.
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:03 AM
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What's a good prog rock album about space?
I'm not a big fan of Yes, but they seem to be all about space from what I've heard.

That question reminds me of the Finnish rock band CMX whose album Talvikuningas is basically one long prog space opera song. While the band generally plays quite mainstream rock (they actually started out as a punk band), the have a lot of prog influences, especially on the album Dinosaurus Stereophonicus (which is my favorite album of theirs).

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Punainen Komentaja, from Talvikuningas
Jatkuu niinkuin sade, from Dinosaurus Stereophonicus
Iliman pielet, from the same
You will find a large bunch of their songs by searching for CMX on youtube, but as I said, it's not all prog even with a wide understanding of the term. I like them a whole lot.
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:09 AM
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Since Dream Theater is my favorite band, the joke around town is that I'm a prog rock head... but that's people being silly because I don't really enjoy anything else that most people consider progressive (outside of the obvious such as Pink Floyd, which I never really considered progressive until someone mentioned it. But like we said, the term itself is kind of nebulous).

That long winded explanation out of the way, a lot of progressive rock people I know recommend Symphony X. They do absolutely nothing for me, though.
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I bought Hawkwind's "In Search of Space" tonight. Here goes nothin'.
Listening now....the Orchestral Intro from the Gorillaz' Plastic Beach sounds a lot like Seven by Seven. No foolin'.
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So I don't know much about prog rock outside of Rush, though I have the general impression it's a lot of noodlin' around with instruments for a long time and not exactly up my alley. But I figure I should give it a shot before writing it off!

Teach me.
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Old 06-13-2010, 01:41 AM
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I can't believe no-one's yet mentioned the mighty FOCUS! Prog + yodelling, what's not to love?
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:27 PM
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In this thread, Shake Well reveals he has nothing useful to contribute.

POSSIBLY EVER?
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:53 PM
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True story: I wanted to learn more about prog rock because I felt bad about making fun of it all the time without giving it a chance.
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I can't believe no-one's yet mentioned the mighty FOCUS! Prog + yodelling, what's not to love?
You mean the guys who did Hocus Pocus? I didn't think that was progressive rock... sounds more like something you'd hear on Doctor Demento, sandwiched between two Weird Al songs.
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Old 06-13-2010, 01:52 PM
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You mean the guys who did Hocus Pocus? I didn't think that was progressive rock... sounds more like something you'd hear on Doctor Demento, sandwiched between two Weird Al songs.
Dude, Focus are totally prog! Although some of their other stuff like "House Of The King" is much more in the vein of Jethro Tull or something like that.
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Old 06-13-2010, 01:57 PM
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I don't know much about the genre but I will reiterate In the Court of the Crimson King, it's rad. Dream Theater is kind of blah to me, even though I own a few albums (I kind of only enjoy Metropolis pt. 2 of the albums I have)
Opeth in my opinion is really boring for the most part.
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Old 06-13-2010, 03:32 PM
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Lordy lordy, I just bought me a huge pile of music! Five CDs in one trip, which is probably the most music I've bought in a day since I was in university. It wasn't all prog, but I picked up Foxtrot and Dark Side of the Moon - the latter on Super Audio CD*, no less! I also got a compilation of early Black Sabbath, which I think sorta counts. It has The Wizard, for chrissakes! I look forward to a glorious week of dorking out to prog records while I'm at work.


*Actually, it's a hybrid SACD, which I'm hoping will play properly in my computer. Maybe some day I'll be able to experience the album in full 5.1 glory, but it won't be today. I mean, it's not like I have a SACD player lying around or anything.
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True story: I wanted to learn more about prog rock because I felt bad about making fun of it all the time without giving it a chance.
And have thusly given me a chance to make fun of you.

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In this thread, Shake Well reveals he has nothing useful to contribute.

POSSIBLY EVER?
And you tell me, Mr. Parish, since when is making fun of Calorie Mate not contributing something useful?

Also, if I'm to be (slightly) less snarky, Coheed & Cambria (the first two albums, anyways) are the best prog, because they're basically prog played by a hardcore band.
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Old 06-13-2010, 07:00 PM
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Also, if I'm to be (slightly) less snarky, Coheed & Cambria (the first two albums, anyways) are the best prog, because they're basically prog played by a hardcore band.
But you hate Coheed and Cambria past a certain point!
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:15 PM
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Coheed actually got worse as they became more proggy. It's not because they got more proggy though, it's because they also stopped adding the interesting bits that made the songs enjoyable.
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I also got a compilation of early Black Sabbath, which I think sorta counts. It has The Wizard, for chrissakes!
Well, the right thing would have been to get the first six albums.
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:58 PM
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So, seeing as the basics of prog are already really well covered in this thread, I've been thinking about what I could contribute that would be somewhat valuable beyond that. Considering the fact that I'm both a Japanese music aficionado and a longtime prog fan, I'm wondering if anyone here is interested in me pointing out some of the better Japanese prog groups. There may not be any bands that are on par with the greats, but quite a few of them (like, say, Koenji Hyakkei, Naikaku and Bi Kyo Ran) are very interesting. Mainly, this would just be for the benefit of people who are already prog fans and are looking for something new, and people who are interested in hearing Japanese music that's not the typical mainstream stuff.
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:25 PM
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But you hate Coheed and Cambria past a certain point!
1) I specified the first two records.

2) Even if I hate them past the first two records (though the third has some bright moments), they're still better than all the other prog rock.
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Also, Tool's Lateralus is pretty damned awesome modern prog.
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Ok, I'll divide what's been suggested so far that I've listened to into a Good list and a Bad list.

Good
Led Zeppelin - I, II, III, zoso
Rush - Hemispheres, Permanent Waves (minus The Trees)
Mastodon
Porcupine Tree
early Black Sabbath

Bad
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (the precursor)
Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals
anything by Genesis
anything by Tool
anything by Coheed and Cambria
anything by Dream Theatre
Opeth


...so really, what I've learned is that prog is all over the damn place and is incredibly subjective. Neat!

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Calories, you already listen to prog, because you listen to Mastodon.
Yeah, I know. When I said "prog" I was thinking more along the lines of Rush and less along the lines of prog metal, but I suppose that's a stupid distinction.

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As a metal fan, bands like Porcupine Tree, Opeth, Mastodon, and Dream Theater can scratch that itch.
You've got a 50% success rate...and I actively dislike things like Dream Theatre much more than I seek out things like Mastodon.


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Also, if I'm to be (slightly) less snarky, Coheed & Cambria (the first two albums, anyways) are the best prog, because they're basically prog played by a hardcore band.
I can't believe I'm being made fun of by someone that likes Coheed & Cambria.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:17 PM
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Coheed & Cambria are a joke, forever, where Robert Fripp is a certified great music guy by arbiters of taste as great as peak-era Eno and Bowie. You only get to make fun of prog if you get less embarassing taste Shakewell.

Faust IV is great. So is Neu! In general I find krautrock has more of what I like about prog and less of what I find cripplingly embarassing, like Peter Gabriel's lyrics and Keith Emerson's everything.

The best American prog is early Funkadelic though. Maggot Brain has great playing and a sense of humor, and you don't have to be embarrassed to play it for your friends. All their early albums are a little uneven, but they made so much music when they were hot that you can easily make an unimpeachable mix out of their best stuff.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:48 PM
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I like prog rock quite a bit and have a lot of King Crimson and Emerson, Lake, & Palmer on vinyl, but I my enjoyment hasn't ever really moved beyond the bands everyone knows like, King Crimson, ELP, Kansas, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, Yes, and Rush. Of course, I led into my enjoyment of prog rock by bands like Asia, Styx, Foreigner, Journey, Boston, and such so what do I know?
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:46 PM
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The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (the precursor)
Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals
anything by Genesis
...Come here.
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You've got a 50% success rate
No, you have a 50% success rate.
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...Come here.
The only Beatles album I like is Abbey Road. And while Pink Floyd has a couple songs I dig, overall I just can't get into it.

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No, you have a 50% success rate.
I suppose that's a way of looking at it.
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Old 06-14-2010, 03:05 PM
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I'm going to return this Calorie Mate to the store. There's something wrong with it, I demand a refund!

(Though I must admit, I think Dark Side Of The Moon is okay but a bit overrated, I don't get why it's considered THE Floyd album. It's neat and landmark and all but I'd much rather listen to Animals or Meddle or Wish You Were Here or something.)
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