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Old 10-02-2017, 06:34 AM
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To put that in context, she has not disowned any other movie she's done, including this version of the Three Musketeers.



In closing, I just assumed that she hasn't disowned any other movies. But it feels right, doesn't it? Also, I just ran out of steam. Good night.
It would be rude to disown a movie your husband directed.
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Old 10-02-2017, 06:55 AM
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Yangus: great write up on mother!
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Old 10-02-2017, 07:46 AM
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I like Mila Jovovich well enough as an actress, but not a thing she's been associated with since Fifth Element has been... y'know... good.
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Old 10-02-2017, 07:51 AM
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Zoolander was good.
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Old 10-02-2017, 07:52 AM
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Say what you will about her choice in movies, but she rocks that dress like nobody's business.
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Old 10-02-2017, 09:06 AM
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She was in 6 or so Residents Evil and only one (the 2nd) was bad. 😾
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Old 10-02-2017, 11:34 PM
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Yeah, Resident Evils are definitely in the not-ungood category (although I haven't seen the last one yet).
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Old 10-03-2017, 05:40 AM
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They're all bad though.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:16 AM
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The Resident Evil movies, really all Paul WS Anderson movies, are generally entertaining trash. They are modern day B movies, not fooling anybody into thinking they are art but possessing enough craft to no be completely without worth.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:13 AM
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There's nothing wrong with Milla Jovovich having a successful career starring in enjoyable trash. Those movies are still bad.
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Old 10-03-2017, 02:52 PM
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I am genuinely unsure if the local theatres poster for Mother was just hung imperfectly and it has some slight distorting as a result, or if it's just designed that way.

Based on what I know of the movie, both are equally likely.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:24 PM
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Lately I've been taking some big risks with netflix. Like this collection here. Hard to pass when I see "In Rollergator, a woman helps a talking baby alligator escape from a dangerous ninja." Later I learned there was a Rifftrax version of that I could have watched instead, and not have to subject myself to this whole collection, which also included Toad Warrior. One of the... unfortunatenesses to follow in the wake of Hell Comes to Frog Town. And also Rollergator and Toad Warrior cross over both ways.

Prior to those I watched something called Ski Wolf, which promised to be a mashup of Teen Wolf and Better Off Dead and... OK while there's a little of that in there, down to the big challenge at the end where the protagonist and the guy who was almost certainly named Chad have a race where he believes in himself and doesn't go wolf, which leads to losing, which leads to going wolf and just tearing probably-Chad's head off, but it also goes to a lot of very confusing and terrible places. Also it just kinda turns into straight-up porn for entirely too long of a stretch at one point.
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:04 AM
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It's an uneven and meandering movie, but The Last Unicorn looks absolutely gorgeous in HD. I recommend watching it just for that.

But maybe mute the part where Jeff Bridges and Mia Farrow sing, because you don't need that level of brain damage
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:09 PM
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Blade Runner 2049 might not be as good as the original.

That should be taken as high praise.
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:04 PM
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Blade Runner 2049
Just got back. Best scifi I've seen in years. Still chewing on whether I liked it more than such as Her or Ex Machina, but it's definitely up there.

It is 2h43m long, and feels longer. That said, it didn't lose me for one second. Just pointing that out because you'll want to make sure you're ready for a long movie before sitting down for this one.

Ryan Gosling's hair is soaking wet and perfect in every scene of the movie. Life's not fair
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:18 AM
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Likewise just got back from Blade Runner. It wasn't as dreadful as I anticipated. I also wasn't necessarily bored either. But as a film it felt hollow. As a piece of speculative science fiction, it was both tantalizing and horribly inadequate. It barely scratches the surface of showing us this world, which is disappointing when the film is so long. There's also just a lot of dead screen time. Of the camera lingering on establishing shots, or character reactions, or whatnot. All of which isn't too dissimilar from the first film. But I feel like the big difference here and the original Blade Runner is that this world doesn't feel remotely lived in. It's very empty and bleak and quiet. And when we do see crowds of people, they're more often characterized like animals than people (which I suppose is the point but still). I also don't really know if, in the end, it manages to say or do anything special to merit a sequel being made either. It's certainly a much more respectful and considered sequel than we're using to seeing from 80s nostalgia mining. But the story itself, as a sequel to the original film, is not one that's inherently interesting nor a story that needed to be told and ripped from our imaginations.
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Old 10-07-2017, 01:32 PM
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I, too, saw Blade Runner 2049.

It certainly looks gorgeous. I'm really impressed with the visual design of this movie. It's obviously huge informed by the original, but it's not a straight lift: incorporating new ideas, colours and shots that reference the original but add a new dimension (best example: the LA skyline being a mass of solar panels, which harkens to the fire-breathing chimneys but in a subtle way). It's like they took BR as a starting point, then extrapolated how that design would look after three decades of evolving tastes and sensibilities. And I think it succeeds; it gives 2049 a lived-in quality, as if this is a world we periodically peek into.

My thoughts on the story are decidedly mixed. Unmarked spoilers under the pop:
Basing the story around the search for a Replicant child is good, and feels like a natural extension of the first movie's story and ultimate question of "what does it mean to be human?". Likewise, K's arc, and especially his relationship with Joi, is a great way to update and expand on the idea of Replicants awkwardly trying to be human. Joi, too, also raises intriguing questions about what role of AI play in this world, and how they're looked upon— by humans, and even by replicants. This is all good, heady stuff, worthy of a Blade Runner sequel.

But…

First, I don't like that the movie has an explicit antagonist in Luv (Niander's assistant). 2049 wants to be a measured and deliberative detective movie that also raises questions on the meaning of human… so having someone stalking K throughout really throws a wrench in that atmosphere. Like, it's hard to get too invested in K investigating the "orphanage" after Luv rained fury on the would-be scavengers only a moment before. I guess they thought they needed someone to pose a physical threat to K in the same way that Leon, Roy and Pris did to Deckard, and having her being the unseen stalking force is supposed to be a reversal, but… her presence feels so at odds with the film.

Second, the movie gets bogged down with awkward and unnecessary worldbuilding. The film opens with text explaining how regular Replicant riots led to their banning and Tyrell Corp's fall from grace, followed by synthetic farmer Niander Wallace devising new obedient models and spearheading their reintroduction… and there's so many extraneous details there that don't factor into the story and seemingly exist only to complicate it. Why do we need the change of corporate overlords, Wallace's background in farming, or the (completely off-screen) banning and unbanning of Replicants; why couldn't it just be that Niander Tyrell created more obedient models?

Between the shorts that preceded 2049's release, and the (otherwise completely pointless) scene about a Replicant Resistance, and that this ends without Wallace getting any sort of comeupperance… my immediate thought is this is some cynical marketing, preparing for a deluge of comic book prequel tie-ins or even an eighteen part Blade Runner Cinematic Universe. I hope I'm wrong.


PS: The scene where Deckard and K swim back to the platform is totally a Gattaca homage, right?
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:46 PM
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I have thoughts on some of those spoilers. Luv I works for me. I would say that 2049 is about as pure a hard-boiled detective movie as I can think of, the presence of a heavy didn't seem out of place. I guess it might have worked better if the movie hid her a little more, like they did with the Resistance, but I thought she was an effective obstacle. Also, she is a perfect foil for K. Luv is given a similar mission, to find the child and erase all evidence of its existence. But she actually stays on mission like she is supposed to, while K begins to question. She becomes a very frustrating character because she never does break out of that role, but I think that is the point. She is the unquestioning robot person that the replicants were intended to be.

As for Niander getting away, that is very much in line with hard-boiled and noir detective stories. He is a powerful man, and the system is corrupt enough that even had they wanted to, there is nothing the protagonists could that would have harmed him. It throws in some wrinkles with the resistance, but the movie wisely avoids getting too deep into that. There is a story about them and their confrontation with Niander Wallace, but that wasn't this story, this was K's story. Him getting away doesn't make this story feel incomplete.

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Old 10-07-2017, 03:16 PM
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There is a story about them and their confrontation with Niander Wallace, but that wasn't this story, it wasn't K's story. Him getting away doesn't make this story feel incomplete.
I didn't mean to imply I thought the movie was incomplete; as you say (or mean to; looks like a typo…), this is K's story. What I meant is that it feels like a sequel hook. Honestly, they could have probably cut Wallace's scenes entirely, so he existed solely as unseen background presence, and the movie wouldn't have suffered for it.
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Old 10-07-2017, 03:33 PM
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Yeah, I goofed that up while editing.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:00 PM
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Finally managed to check out 2049 today. I really enjoyed it--I was kinda dubious for the first scenes, but found myself intrigued by K's relationship with Joi, and then when we got to Wallace's headquarters, the cinematography, shot composition, and hearing Deckard and Rachael again had me hooked.


I'm not entirely sure if I'd call it better than the original. I didn't care for the music that much--the return of a couple songs by Vangelis were the high points of the score, IMO, but all the original music wasn't anywhere near as good as the old track was. The music for the fight scenes, in particular, struck me as pretty ho-hum and pedestrian. And while the cityscape aesthetics were great, they didn't have quite the same impact as they did when I first saw them in Blade Runner and was blown away. So I think the first one still has the top spot in my heart, but it's clear they put a lot of effort into 2049 and realized what made the original great, mostly hitting the mark. Definitely a satisfying sequel.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:27 PM
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I got back from Bladerunner 2049. I liked it.

Question on Rachel. Was that CGI or Original Bladerunner footage photoshopped into the scenes? If it was CGI...it was miles better than Leia and Tarkin in Rogue One.

I thought the movie had some pretty neat visual touches. I didn't interpret the LA skyline looking different due to solar panels. I thought the LA skyline was darkened due to the Blackout. And in this dystopian world, earth is trash and the wealthy have moved off world. So power is back in some places but not everywhere. There are permanently blacked out buildings. I also like the huge damns at the seaside of LA. I assume in this world mankind has messed up the climate and oceans levels have risen.

In my theater the score was super loud, which I liked. But I think my sister found this pretty grating. Also like the original Bladerunner, I don't think this going to be a hit with the masses. The pacing is pretty slow.

In terms of revisiting Ridley Scott sci-fi classics in modern times my ranking goes: Prometheus, Bladerunner 2049, then Covenant. The only movie of that trilogy that really did not work for me was Covenant.
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Old 10-07-2017, 10:27 PM
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I'm gonna be the heretic and say I think Blade Runner 2049 is probably superior to the original, if only because Harrison Ford isn't total dead weight in this one

Gorgeous film, themes are going to need some time to chew on. Amazing theatre experience. Already considering going again
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Old 10-08-2017, 11:28 AM
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Just came back from Blade 2unner (or as my friend called it, "Do Alexas Dream Of Electric Sheep?"). It was much better than any Blade Runner sequel has the right to be, so kudos to the filmmakers for that. I think it's not as good as delivering its message as the original, but it is still a very enjoyable movie. It is loooong, though - I didn't mind it because the original was also paced at the same speed, but that one didn't last two and a half hours, so at the end most of my friends were a bit impatient for the movie to end.
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Old 10-08-2017, 03:32 PM
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I may be a scourge for this, but in this case I'm a demon's souls/Bloodborne scourge instead of an anime scourge...did anyone else think a couple of the characters, like Joi and the memory maker lady, remind them of Evetta Muradisilova? :blush: :blush:
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:34 PM
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Blade Runner 2049 was a fine and gorgeous film, and although I didn't see Blade Runners 2 through 2048 I understood it quite well, so now's a perfect time to get back into this franchise.

I've said it before and it bears repeating: they should bring back intermissions, and they should bring back movies long enough to need intermissions. But I feel the need to clarify that they should do it in that order. I love long movies, and I'm still young enough that my bladder can still handle a movie that's not even three hours long, but I know that I won't be that way forever.

Impressions follow.

The replicants of thirty years farther in the future are less emotionally uncanny than the ones Deckard iced back in the day, presumably because their implanted memories mean they're not trying to grapple with mortality and oppression simultaneously without even any simulated life experience. And yet people have an easier time telling them apart. If there was a cue other than the serial number imprinted in the eyes, I didn't catch it on an initial viewing. Maybe it is just the serial number, though, which has interesting implications for the one replicant who doesn't have a serial number.

Naturally, the test they administer to K is not used to determine whether anyone is a replicant, but whether a replicant is at risk of revolting. Instead of scenarios containing suffering animals, the questions remind the subject of his own bondage and check to see whether he loses his cool.

Speaking of which, they had the animal carvings and the bees and the dog, but there was a definite decrease in animal symbolism, separating it even further from Philip K. Dick. Probably best to forget about the book altogether.

K is an interesting one - sharp as a tack, immediately understands the emotions of others, but it's different when they're his own. Joi as someone who is an android to an android, an even more dependent and isolated slave designed to perform emotional rather than physical labor, could easily have struck me as a redundant idea, but it's a strong idea in the context of two artificial people trying to figure out what it is to be alive. Do androids dream of electric lovers?

Interesting contrast between Tyrell and Wallace. Tyrell was a craftsman whom Roy viewed as a god, taking revenge upon him for building him with an expiration date. Wallace, however, sees himself as God, bought his own hype.

If it's true they're planning to make Blade Runner 2050 or whatever, the idea of Wallace and the revolutionaries both being really keen on the idea of fertile replicants is a promise for a premise of sufficient complexity.

Harrison Ford isn't allowed to be in any more sequels, for the good of society. The risk of them turning hagiographic is increasing.


The trailers before the show were somewhat alarming. The three science fiction ones were very reluctant to state their actual premises, and then there were three for revenge movies. Two were very much in the paranoid mode and then the Jackie Chan one deemphasized its Jackie Chan-like qualities.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:06 PM
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Went to Shreveport LA this weekend and saw 20 short films as part of the LA Prize Fest.

If any of you folks leave near this area, I highly recommend this film festival. The quality ranges from How Did This Get In to I'm Sad That I Can't Show This To Everyone, and it's hella fun to talk about what works and doesn't, then vote for your three favorites. Also, the overall quality of the films gets better every year.
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Old 10-09-2017, 07:42 AM
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I also liked the Blade Runner sequel
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:14 AM
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So I got a question about Blade Runner 2: The Blade Runs Again. What is the significance of the decision to use "Peter and the Wolf"?
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:46 PM
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Obviously a reference to Fargo season 3. Shared universe confirmed
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