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Old 10-09-2017, 06:23 PM
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Ye, watched the first episode earlier today. The art director seems legendary.
That's a hell of a resume, yeah.

And yeah, definitely a lot going on from this setup. The Elders evidently waiting for the outside world to change for the better, but disappointed that it apparently hasn't. The taboo against showing emotions but fear of a girl who physically can't. Someone was definitely up to a lot of social and/or biological engineering in the past and we're seeing the fallout, both intentional and not. Nausciaa-esque indeed.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:25 PM
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First episode of Kino's Journey was some weird-ass right-wing Gunota shit. I'm mostly fine with gun-porn in, say, Western stuff, because that's the genre's and time-period's morality and iconography. But it's an entirely different thing to present this constructed null of a society of fucking crepe cakes and 1911s, and then kind of firmly come down on the side of the Pastry Wild Bunch.

Whom amongst us doesn't go in for fabulous reflective anime and manga series? But also whom amongst us thought that what Mushishi was missing was Ginko field-stripping a StG every episode?
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:18 PM
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Kino (the character) was kind of a gun nut in the first place, so I'm not surprised. Maybe I should amend my summary of the series from "random conversations between stoned freshman philosophy majors" to "random conversations between stoned Objectivist freshman philosophy majors."
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Old 10-10-2017, 03:37 AM
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Well, the author did pen-name himself after a gun manufacturer (Sigsawa = Sig Sauer) and apparently insisted on being the special gun consultant for Sword Art Online season 2...
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:11 AM
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Kino's Journey
Kino's Journey is, no bullshit, the worst thing I have ever watched.

It blows my fucking mind that someone out in the abyssal pit that is our world actually demanded more of that hell show. That what the world truly needed was another bunch of episodes of Kino mutely and expressionlessly staring at cardboard cutout people as they laboriously beat the dead horse of an Aesop Fable into mush.

Nothing but agony lies down this road.
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Old 10-10-2017, 07:42 AM
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I remember really liking Kino's Journey back in the day, but it has been over a damn decade since I've seen the original series, so no idea whether I'd stand by that affection or end up realizing 'wait, no, teenage-me was wrong, this is NOT as profound as it seemed at the time'. "The Little Prince, except sometimes people get shot" is a concept I could see falling on either side of that divide.

But then again, I recently watched and mostly enjoyed the original Star Trek over the past few years, so gimmicky, heavy-handed, on-the-nose sci-fi social experiments just might be something that works for me.
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:08 AM
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You can totally make heavy-handed, on the nose HERE IS THE MESSAGE tv shows work. There's a reason the original Star Trek is remembered so fondly. See also The Twilight Zone, which is absolutely one of the greatest series of all time.

But Kino's Journey was just so fucking BAD at it.

I don't think any of the stories I saw joylessly play out in Kino's Journey would have grabbed me on their own, but I think what pushed it from "Bad and Boring" to "Truly unwatchable" is Kino herself. She just stands there staring emotionless and expressionless at whatever allegory is acting out in front of her without ever reacting to anything until it's time to murder someone. It acted as a constant reminder of just how fucking TIRED everything playing out onscreen is. Why should I care about any of this shit when the main character clearly doesn't?

When the twilight zone or star trek had a point to make, it would get us INVESTED. It would make the characters that were to demonstrate a point to us feel like people with real emotions and real reasons for their actions, for good or for ill. You can't watch something like Dust and not feel something.

Kino only made me feel frustration and boredom, which in turn gave way to indignant rage.

I don't think Kino's Journey is very good, is what I'm saying.

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Old 10-10-2017, 10:10 AM
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Nothing but agony lies down this road.
I'm currently reading Nisiosin's first book in translation, and getting a similar vibe. The author was 20 when he wrote the book and it shows, including, or especially because of, the frequent sidetracks into college-age cod philosophy. "A genius is a genius in contrast to mediocre people." "A codependent relationship is a form of addiction." No, do tell? Glad I was sitting down for these stunning insights! It doesn't infuriate me, though. For whatever reason I am pretty indulgent of it.
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Old 10-10-2017, 03:14 PM
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Houseki no Kuni. aka Kingdom of Gems. aka Land of the Lustrous. This is a show about genderless anthropomorphic gemstones that have magic powers and fight off invaders from outer space. Its main character at first seems pretty useless but slowly finds ways to help their friends with support from the community. Sound familiar?

In all honesty, I really liked the first episode! I didn't expect that. Especially from something so 3DCG. Land of the Lustrous is a very striking show visually. There's a lot of symbolism going on in just this first episode that I'm also not fully equipped to digest/explain either. I really don't know how to best describe things beyond obvious/trite Stephen Universe comparisons, or saying it's gorgeous. I think the situation/scenario is fascinating and the characters interesting. There's some mild body horror going on (the fragility of these characters - the Mohs scale - is a plot point). It's just got a lot going on. I dunno where this is going, but I wanna find out. Not entirely sure I can blanket recommend it either? But I'm totally willing to bet others here will enjoy it; just not sure who. I definitely think people should give it a try.



Oh yeah, also, Anime Strike : (
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:12 PM
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It is weird to me to think of the gems in SU as being genderless, because they have always read as obviously feminine to me. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that a modern anime does a better job of convincing me of the gender-ambiguousness of its characters.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:17 PM
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I'd been waffling on Lustrous after watching PVs for it. Got enough other stuff going on that I think I'll hold off to see what others think of where it's going, so please report back in a month, Wist, thanks.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:18 PM
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It is weird to me to think of the gems in SU as being genderless, because they have always read as obviously feminine to me. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that a modern anime does a better job of convincing me of the gender-ambiguousness of its characters.
They're sexless, not genderless, unless coming from a society with only one gender role (and conforming to that role) counts as genderlessness. A fine distinction, but one that may explain what you are seeing.
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Old 10-11-2017, 01:16 PM
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A Sister's All You Need might be the scourgiest anime that ever scourged. And I only say "might" because it shares a season with nazi fetishism: the visual novel adaptation (aka Dies Irae).
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Old 10-11-2017, 03:33 PM
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A Sister's All You Need might be the scourgiest anime that ever scourged. And I only say "might" because it shares a season with nazi fetishism: the visual novel adaptation (aka Dies Irae).
I would like to posit that A Sister's All You Need isn't even the scourgiest, incest-obsessed show this season, let alone ever. It doesn't hold a candle to the degeneracy of OreImo. This season's "My Girlfriend is a Faithful Virgin Bitch" is far scourgier, and features not one but two sisters/sister-figures that literally throw themselves at the MC. A Sister's All You Need is pretty scourgey, but it's deceptively less scourgey than it lets on. The first minute or two is a visualization of the main character's perverted fantasies, and the rest of the episode is a fairly boring exercise in the cast hanging out and talking to each other.

Of course, arguing the mineuta of how scourgey this scourge is, is like arguing who was the worse despot, Hitler or Stalin.

Also speaking of Nazis, even my morbid curiosity and lack of self-respect didn't get me to try and episode of Dies Irae. Is it as Nazi-loving and despicable as it appears?
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Old 10-11-2017, 03:54 PM
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A Sister's All You Need is kind of a tonal marvel. The first two minutes were the worst two minutes of animation ever created, and then we get 20 minutes of two boring people and two awful people talking around a table, including like 10 minutes devoted to a lateral thinking puzzle where the punch-line is Japanese word-play that doesn't translate well, not to mention a dry exhaustive explanation of lateral thinking puzzles in general. Then suddenly the last two minutes take a hard swerve and try to be touching and poignant and actually don't entirely fail somehow? This show just seems to have no idea what it wants to be, or who it's trying to appeal to. I went in to this expecting to see a trash fire, and I found one for sure, but it's more like I found an empty dumpster sitting between a trash fire and a hot dog stand, and the camera spends most of the time looking at that empty dumpster.
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Old 10-11-2017, 04:55 PM
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Also speaking of Nazis, even my morbid curiosity and lack of self-respect didn't get me to try and episode of Dies Irae. Is it as Nazi-loving and despicable as it appears?
I'm reasonably sure the nazis are meant to be the bad guys, but the show seems really commited to making them look cool (within the constraints of its apparently meager budget), with the most notable example being bishounen Reinhard Heydrich.

Turning one of the main instigators of the holocaust into some sort of Sephiroth-like figure is probably not a great idea. Let's hope not many impressionable twelve years old watch this show.
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:05 PM
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Let's hope not many impressionable twelve years old watch this show.
it's probably too late
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:08 PM
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2nd episode of Black Clover was hilaribad. It opened with 3.5 mins of recaps, and then the 15 or so minutes after the OP was a pointlessly long flashback sequence that didn't need to happen in the *2nd* episode, and could have probably been summed up in 30 seconds. This show is shounen AF in all the wrong ways. And I just now realize this is apparently a relatively popular Jump comic, so everything makes sense.

Code: Realize is a pretty stereotypical shojo show where a bland girl is magically the center of a vast conspiracy and is surrounded by pretty boys who vow to protec her. If that's your thing, this isn't bad. Bishounen Dr. Frankenstein are pretty Bishounen Arsene Lupin kyoot. I don't expect much outta this, but it's not terrible.

Inuyashiki... the first episode was a mixed bag. The middleaged, beaten down by life dude getting super powers and feeling like his life is worth something again since he can help people was pretty interesting and powerful stuff. However, I can't help but read an overwhelming sense of contempt this first episode has for millenials which is just . The use of CGI here is really kinda distracting. When the main character, Inuyashiki transforms, using CGI is perfectly fine because you really couldn't do those sequences by hand without expending wayyyy too much time and effort. But when Inuyashiki is just hanging out and doing nothing but he's CGI anyways, it looks jarring and weird compared to most of the cast being hand drawn. It feels like the animators didn't know how or want to draw an old dude. I'll be giving this one a solid try to see how it goes. It looks like fun, but it also looks like might get way too preachy, and preach shit that I don't agree with.

Just Because! feels like a very similar show, with a very similar subject matter/mood as Tsuki ga Kirei. Which is nice. The focus of the story seems to be split a little more amongst the cast versus Tsuki ga Kirei, and this time it's about high schoolers who are about to graduate. The tone feels a little more dramatic and less reliant on humor, but it's by no means a dark show. It's pretty light fare; rather sedate and grounded. I wasn't amazed by the first episode, but it looks like it has promise, and I'm interested in seeing where it'll go.

Himouto! Umaru-chan R very much the same show as before, for better or worse. When Umaru is geeking out and acting like a slob, I had a huge smile on my face. When Ebina's bouncy boobs became a plot point I had a huge frown on my face. So pretty par for the course. It's just more of the same, so if this show works for you, you'll know what to expect.
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Old 10-15-2017, 09:56 PM
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Grr. I am cross with the cliffhanger development at the end of Ep2 of Kujira no Kora.

But it's clearly the turning point after the setup, so we'll see.
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Old 10-16-2017, 03:28 AM
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I just watched Inuyashiki and it almost drove me to tears ;_; I guess I know what's going to be my favorite anime of the season. That said, I didn't see *quite* as much contempt for the younger generation...on the one hand, the main character's kids are unsympathetic and the young punks beating up the homeless guy were obviously bad, but on the other hand, it seems like those "generic punks" show up in just about every anime. Like, seriously, almost every anime from every genre has a scene where a bunch of young punks in silly hats threaten a girl/old person before the hero scares them off to get a love interest/mentor/new quest.
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Old 10-16-2017, 03:47 AM
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Grr. I am cross with the cliffhanger development at the end of Ep2 of Kujira no Kora.

But it's clearly the turning point after the setup, so we'll see.
That wasn't all that surprising or upsetting to me, but I anticipated something like this happening just from the context of what you see during the show's various PVs. There's also the obvious fact that the childhood friend is never allowed to win.

The Ancient Magus' Bride's 2nd episode did a lot to help ease some of my problems with the show. If only because our skeleton-bro got the crap beat out of him and castigated for being a giant creep. So at least the show knows what it's doing, and hopefully begins educating our skeleton-man on some basic fuckin' boundaries. But the ickyness of the first episode was still 100% unnecessary.

Land of the Lustrous's 2nd episode was so good actually. This show is stupid good. Its characters are so delightful, and there's already so much texture and complicated drama going on between the cast. And holy cow, this is easily the prettiest a 3DCG anime has ever been, and the best justification for it IMO. My only complaint, which isn't so much a problem as it's a thing, is that the mild body horror from the first episode got dialed up more this 2nd one. Specifically, the main character gets eaten by a giant slug and the process of watching her dissolve, while being abstract and not remotely grotesque, was fairly unsettling and distressing to watch. I don't think that's a problem with the show rather one of its strengths, but it's definitely something not everyone is gonna be 100% OK with I'm sure.

March Comes in like a Lion started back up and sure is the same show. I feel like the SHAFT-ness of this first episode was dialed up to 11, for better or worse. I really enjoy this show, but I find all of its explorations of Shogi as a sport itself to be intensely boring, and the show shines most when Rei is learning something new about life or hanging out with the Lions of 3-Gatsu Town.
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:24 PM
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That wasn't all that surprising or upsetting to me, but I anticipated something like this happening just from the context of what you see during the show's various PVs. There's also the obvious fact that the childhood friend is never allowed to win.
She doesn't have to win, but it would be nice if she was allowed to live. :/ Or at least get some character growth first.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:09 PM
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Last season's Hina Logi is a pretty generic cute-magical-girls-doing-cute-yuri-subtext-things, but it does culminate in an unambiguous same-sex kiss and declaration of love. If we're going by Yuri on Ice rules, I think that actually qualifies it as a masterpiece? :b
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I'm actually digging Urahara. It feels a lot like Bee & Puppycat - weird but chill; slow but charming. It's also refreshingly free of typical anime bullshit.
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