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Old 01-20-2010, 10:39 AM
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All of these are advertised as containing "real sugar." If they don't currently contain real sugar, what are they using? Is this a disctinction between cane sugar and corn syrup?

Also, where have you guys found these in stores? Anyone come across the Heritage Dr. Pepper yet?
I've got a couple cases of the Dr. Pepper, just picked them up at Target last week. And yeah, the difference is just that its made with sugar in place of high-fructose corn syrup.
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:43 AM
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You know, I realized that I have no idea what high fructose corn syrup is, so I asked Wikipedia.

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High-fructose corn syrup is produced by milling corn to produce corn starch, then processing that starch to yield corn syrup, which is almost entirely glucose, and then adding enzymes that change most of the glucose into fructose. The resulting syrup (after enzyme conversion) contains approximately 90% fructose and is HFCS 90. To make the other common forms of HFCS (HFCS 55 and HFCS 42) the HFCS 90 is mixed with 100% glucose corn syrup in the appropriate ratios to form the desired HFCS
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:44 AM
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Bergasa is late to the Pollan party.

"Normal" soft drinks use high fructose corn syrup, which is a distant chemical derivative of American commodity corn. People are against it because its usage feeds the corrupt cycle of American agribusiness, it allows for previously sugared drinks to be made much sweeter and much more caloric for less money (which preys on the health of people with lower income), it may or may not be harder for us to metabolize than simple crystallized cane juice, it takes a lot of fossil fuel energy to produce, and it arguably does not taste as good.
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:51 AM
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Bergasa is late to the Pollan party.

"Normal" soft drinks use high fructose corn syrup, which is a distant chemical derivative of American commodity corn. People are against it because its usage feeds the corrupt cycle of American agribusiness, it allows for previously sugared drinks to be made much sweeter and much more caloric for less money (which preys on the health of people with lower income), it may or may not be harder for us to metabolize than simple crystallized cane juice, it takes a lot of fossil fuel energy to produce, and it arguably does not taste as good.
While I was a little shaky on the politics of it all, I was mostly aware of the problems going on with soda. I'll be interested to try out the throwback stuff to see if it really tastes better.
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:00 PM
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The other day, I saw a commercial for the corn industry on TV. I didn't think they really needed to drum up public awareness anymore, what with 90% of everything having corn in it somehow.
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So guys, throwback sodas. By popular demand, Throwback Pepsi and Mountain Dew has been brought back, and Dr. Pepper is getting in on the action with "Heritage Dr. Pepper." Dr. Pepper is my favourite soda, so I'm particularly excited about that one, but I missed out on the Pepsi and Mountain Dew last time, so I look forward to getting in on those too.

All of these are advertised as containing "real sugar." If they don't currently contain real sugar, what are they using? Is this a disctinction between cane sugar and corn syrup?

Also, where have you guys found these in stores? Anyone come across the Heritage Dr. Pepper yet?
Fancy Grocery stores usually have imported sodas from Mexico that use can sugar instead of HFCS. You can even find Mexican Coca Cola at Costco!
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:13 PM
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The other day, I saw a commercial for the corn industry on TV. I didn't think they really needed to drum up public awareness anymore, what with 90% of everything having corn in it somehow.
I've seen at least two of them one with two teenagers eating cereal and another with some mother being worried about feeding it to her kids. I've also seen one put out by Corn Refiners and Soda manufacturers scaring people into opposing the sugar taxes that some states (NY for sure) are considering
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I prefer the Throwback soda because it doesn't leave as bad of a tangy gross fizzy aftertaste in my mouth.

I think it seems to fizz less overall.

It tastes smoother and better. Ftw.
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:21 PM
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I don't really care for the Pepsi version (Or "Pepsi" at all too much), but both the Dew and Dr. Pepper (Heritage instead of Throwback) are really good.

Also awesome was that my store stocked 12 packs of Cherry Crush for a few weeks while we did this massive Throwback/Heritage promotion. I even managed to snag the last 12 pack of Dr. Pepper Heritage we had!
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:16 PM
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If they don't currently contain real sugar, what are they using? Is this a disctinction between cane sugar and corn syrup?
Specifically, high fructose corn syrup.

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Also, where have you guys found these in stores? Anyone come across the Heritage Dr. Pepper yet?
I've seen all of them including Heritage Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper was my drink of choice until I stopped drinking all soda a few years ago, so I wanted to try this. It seemed good, but it's been so long since I drank it regularly that I couldn't necessarily give any kind of comprehensive comparison. I would say it seemed less thick than I recall.
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:53 PM
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Oh no! The jar I picked out to empty this bag of pistachios into isn't quite big enough! I'll have to eat the excess right now! Darn.

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Old 01-21-2010, 09:31 AM
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I think my friends and I are going to check out this Chinese restaurant tomorrow. Their menu is conveniently online (and quite vast), so nominate a dish that I should get, and justify it: http://www.paulnyu.com/PDF/Menu.pdf

There are a lot of things I am unfamiliar with on that list.
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Old 01-24-2010, 09:37 PM
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the rest of my lollipops from Lollyphile came yesterday! my girlfriend bought me the sample pack with two of every flavor for Christmas, but they were all cleaned out from the holiday order rush and I had to wait for most of my order to be split up and mailed out in little chunks.

the absinthe lollipop is so strong I can't feel my tongue anymore. it's great! so far every flavor has been very nice, except for the coffee one which was so repulsive I couldn't even finish it. I don't know what went wrong there.

the maple bacon is probably the best one, but I haven't tried the lavender, irish cream, white russian or bourbon ones yet. THERE IS STILL TIME FOR AN UPSET.
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Old 01-25-2010, 09:22 PM
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apples are the best fruit.

no dissent is possible on this subject.
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Old 01-25-2010, 09:43 PM
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They certainly are. They are nature's candy. Treats from God.
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:15 PM
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The guy who wrote this blog article tipped me off about it, and I rode over to try this place this afternoon.

So awesome. Full of skin, the best slaw I've ever had, great potato salad.
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Old 01-26-2010, 09:10 PM
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oh my god there's a Kogi truck in Orange County now??

if it's not within range when I'm down there next week, I will explode.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:40 AM
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To anyone who bemoans globalization, I counter with the fact that I just ate a pomegranate, purchased a local grocery store, and I live in Pennsylvania. It's not rare that I cook with quinoa. WIN.
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Old 01-27-2010, 11:50 AM
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pomegranates are rare? my neighbor has a tree of em.
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The guy who wrote this blog article tipped me off about it, and I rode over to try this place this afternoon.

So awesome. Full of skin, the best slaw I've ever had, great potato salad.
Man, sometimes I really wish I lived in the South. I'm sick of what the North passes off as "good barbeque!"
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:13 PM
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Ugh.

I know New York has a dearth of good Mexican food, but the reviews told me that Itzocan Cafe was passing decent. Maybe its other items are, but that was probably the worst, most bland chicken mole I've had in my life.
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Man, sometimes I really wish I lived in the South. I'm sick of what the North passes off as "good barbeque!"
If you have a kettle grill and a pork shoulder with the rind on, you too can make almost authentic eastern North Carolina barbecue in just 10-12 hours!!!
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The 1 vs 100 topic at 8pm PST / 11pm EST tonight is Cooking.
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Today we went to the best donair place, where the Small Donair was the size of my head.

SO GOOD.
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Old 01-30-2010, 02:17 AM
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I can't believe every store in the area was out of sriracha. that's not supposed to happen!!
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apples are the best fruit.

no dissent is possible on this subject.
My friend the Pear would like to disagree.
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My friend the Pear would like to disagree.
Pears, very much like peaches, are delicious when you get one that's good, awful when you get one that isn't, and often difficult to tell which is which. Apples are the most reliable of fruits.

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Old 02-01-2010, 01:57 PM
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man, I wish I could get into apples, but I just can't. I don't dislike them, but I don't ever really want to eat an apple.

the best fruits are the unreliable ones.
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I had hot apple cider. Good stuff!

Apples rule!
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:04 PM
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oh my god there's a Kogi truck in Orange County now??

if it's not within range when I'm down there next week, I will explode.
it's going to be a few blocks away from my parents' house on Friday!!

I... I have to make this happen. this can't not happen.
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